News Walt Disney Company plans to spend $17 billion at Walt Disney World over the next ten years

mkt

mkt

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Trauma said:
Ok valid point.

But -

I think they have to invest in Florida.

Does Universal just keep building with no response from Disney ?
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Why keep building in a place whose leadership is comprised of bad faith actors who have a vendetta?
 
mkt

mkt

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Trauma said:
You keep hammering on this like any political leader outlasts Disney.

Ok so things are bad right now.

Don’t make it worse by falling further behind.
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You're acting like this was done by executive order and will be easy to undo in 2026. These are signed laws, and will require more than just a new governor to undo.
 
mkt

mkt

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Trauma said:
What laws are you referring to?

I’m asking because I’m trying to figure out what you think will hold up in court.

I don’t think very much will.

So what is the long term concern?
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I don't know where it falls in FL Statute, but the law converting RCID into CFTOD and the new rules giving regulatory oversight of the monorail to FDOT.

I don't think it'll hold up in court either, but it could be a while before this goes to trial. Long term concern is the new board expanding power and giving contracts to unqualified loyalists.
 
Rich Brownn

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Disney could still add to the parks and still cut back here. Move any non direct theme park job out of state. Close or move the call center. There are plenty of things they can do.
 
mkt

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Rich Brownn said:
Disney could still add to the parks and still cut back here. Move any non direct theme park job out of state. Close or move the call center. There are plenty of things they can do.
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That's mostly what I've been saying. Except they can stop adding to the parks and keep them as-is.
 
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goldeagle said:
If I were the Disney leadership, as attractions aged and needed replacing, I would build them at other locations. Would consider outside of Las Vegas for a new park....even though 6 hours from a Disney park, it has other attractions that would help generate visitors. Thr Raiders, formula one, a auto racing speedway, and Golden knights in addition to the nearby family friendly casinos.

Eventually Disney attractions in Florida would be moved and not be in a seasonal hurricane zone.
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While the development of an attraction / resort in the Vegas area would be a reasonable investment for TWDC, actually an opportunity to expand into a more adult entertainment marketplace. That said, the focus has been and continues to be continuation of and expanding revenue streams not development of new venues. WDW is a well-established venue and revenue source TWDC is going to ensure it does not go away but rather keep it going.
 
The Mom

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mkt said:
I'll cede to you, since you've been in Florida for a few weeks more than I have. But I recall when vote by mail was a lifetime thing, not an every 2-4 year thing.

On top of the other restrictions which I stated in my reply.
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I remember when you had to give a reason why you could not vote in person ON election day - no early voting. Unless you could prove that you would be permanently unable to do so (usually a disability) it was not a lifetime thing.

So there are fewer restrictions to voting now than there were when I started voting - back when dinosaurs roamed the earth.
 
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Trauma

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GimpYancIent said:
While the development of an attraction / resort in the Vegas area would be a reasonable investment for TWDC, actually an opportunity to expand into a more adult entertainment marketplace. That said, the focus has been and continues to be continuation of and expanding revenue streams not development of new venues. WDW is a well-established venue and revenue source TWDC is going to ensure it does not go away but rather keep it going.
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I’m not sold on this Vegas idea.

When I think Vegas I think of things I wouldn’t want associated with the Disney brand.
 
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Trauma

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The Mom said:
I remember when you had to give a reason why you could not vote in person ON election day - no early voting. Unless you could prove that you would be permanently unable to do so (usually a disability) it was not a lifetime thing.

So there are fewer restrictions to voting now than there were when I started voting - back when dinosaurs roamed the earth.
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You may want to delete this post before the Mods see it. They hate the political stuff.









( Just a joke The Mom be gentle )
 
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GimpYancIent

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Trauma said:
I’m not sold on this Vegas idea.

When I think Vegas I think of things I wouldn’t want associated with the Disney brand.
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Yes, brand integrity is very important (central) for TWDC and there is an aura, a different stratum of entertainment associated with Vegas. The thing is money, if management see's such a venture as lucrative watch out. The decision making of current TWDC management has been questionable and does not inspire confidence.
 
GoofGoof

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Trauma said:
Ok valid point.

But -

I think they have to invest in Florida.

Does Universal just keep building with no response from Disney ?
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I think you invest wherever you think you can make the most money. So if $17B at WDW makes you more money or protects existing margins then you invest it there. If you can make more money investing somewhere else then you do that.

This current situation doesn’t mean Disney won’t invest in FL but there is an added risk premium to expected return on any new project there. WDW as it exists today is a sunk cost. You can’t move it, you can’t sell it, it is what it is. They have to invest a certain amount of money (likely billions over 10 years) just to maintain current offerings. It’s growth that is at risk. When considering building a new land or even a new ride a model is built to project your return on investment and if the return exceeds the internally set hurdle rate you move forward. That model will have a built in political risk premium for FL projects now. Doesn’t mean they won’t invest, there’s a political risk premium for parks in China as well but they keep expanding.

As far as competing with Universal, that has always been more of a fan debate than an actual economic one. They both make more money when either or both is expanding. If things get bad enough Disney could pause expansion at WDW and still compete well with Universal.
 
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GimpYancIent

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Regardless of any TWDC ventures outside of WDW the parks will be operated and maintained. Despite media buzz, rumor and stories WDW will remain where it is, operate and continue to entertain and relieve multitudes of guests, tourists, visitors and travelers of their money. If there is one thing that will remain where it is it's WDW.
 
larryz

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The Mom said:
I remember when you had to give a reason why you could not vote in person ON election day - no early voting. Unless you could prove that you would be permanently unable to do so (usually a disability) it was not a lifetime thing.

So there are fewer restrictions to voting now than there were when I started voting - back when dinosaurs roamed the earth.
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Well, if you ever want to change that, I know a ride in Animal Kingdom that might help...
 
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WDWFanRay

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“D'Amaro also said that Disney's theme park operations in Florida had not been impacted in any way as a result of the ongoing dispute.”

This is simply not true.
 

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