Video - Splash Mtn finale Jan 22 (all animatronics broken)

Patrick_Ears

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wow it seems alot of people are upset with this..Been awhile since i been on here.......

So maybe someone may know the question to this.

Does Disney have CM's that walk around and make sure rides are working correctly or they wait for customers to complain? :shrug:
 

TarzanRocked99-

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This coming from the company that now runs ad spots for Walt Disney World that only show Disneyland and Disneyland attractions and then Cinderella Castle at the end with 407-WDISNEY. They can't even spend the money to show the proper property. It's symbolic of the culture that has taken over the theme parks division.

I am glad to know this drives other people crazy besides myself, I think the SummerNightastic ads back in 2010 were the worst offenders.
 

Bolna

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To add even more fuel ... Universal continues to up the stakes ... Google the new Cinematic Spectacular show they will be debuting this summer ... the show will rival World of Color ...

Yes, and it seems that even poor Disneyland Paris which is hugely in debt will get a rather promising looking show featuring castle projections, water fountains and fireworks while the Magic Kingdom got the technology for the castle projections to throw the pictures of a few guests on the castle... One would have thought that a 40th anniversary would be a great opportunity for a new nighttime spectacular. DLP gets one for its 20th...
 

janoimagine

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Judging by the concept art as well as the ridiculous amount of infastructure that being installed all around the central lagoon right now the new Uni night show will be nothing short of spectacular. I cannot wait to see it.

I know right? ... I even love the fact that they paid the money to get Morgan Freeman to narrate it ... he does have a great voice.
 

devoy1701

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Either way, TDO have themselves to blame. Poor upkeep. Slashed budgets. PPM cut back.

The park is at such under capacity- as admitted- that indeed having BTM and Splash down at once would be a PR nightmare. And who's fault is that? The 20k plot has been empty for nearly 20 years now. Prime real estate. That and some of the other plots could and should have been developed as people eaters years ago. Now with Toontown gone and a signature E Ticket closed the park is close to breaking point. If Splash AND say POTC go 101 over Easter the resulting mess should be a final wake up call.

50,000 guests in park + two or more E tickets down + FLE work + Fastpass = a recipe for disaster.


Is it bad that I'm hoping for this??? :drevil:
 

Buried20KLeague

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I visit Disneyland at least 12 times a year and everytime i'm there the majority of Guests are locals, so you will never get me to believe the demographics have changed as much as the folks at miceage would like you to believe.

How on EARTH would you possibly know that?? Because you hear the majority of guests around you speaking English, therefore they MUST be locals, right? :rolleyes:

Pass the Pixie Dust.
 

NX2I85

Active Member
It's a lot easier to have 2 E-tickets down at Disneyland than the Magic Kingdom.

By no means am I making excuses for TDO. This problem is their own doing. However, if you don't think people would flip out if 2 of the 3 mountains at the Magic Kingdom were both down at the same time, you're mistaken.

I agree. It is impossible to accurately compare DLR and WDW in terms of the impact of downed attractions. TDO has made this fiasco, now has to deal with it. I don't see how they could take two mountains off-line at MK concurrently while they are running a national TV campaign featuring said mountains. Guests would have every right to get ticked off and go vent at Guest Relations.

GR telling someone they can go take a long ride on a short bus to another park sounds like an insult, not a remedy. I could envision some folks telling GR to take their parkhoppers and stick 'em.

I agree people would flip, however guest relations could be coached to handle the situation by offering park hoppers to those who complain, what that would take is time and training, and training requires capital, which means Meg, Bob and Tom would be taking less home one their bonuses, which means it won't be happening.

My point is even with Splash and BTMRR Down, you still have a long list of attractions to satisfy guests:

Jungle Cruise
Magic Carpets
Tiki Room
Pirates
Tom Sawyers Island
The Riverboat
The Country Bears
Haunted Mansion
Hall of Presidents
Small World
Peter Pan
Philharmagic
Snow White
Pooh
Tea Cups
Tomorrowland Speedway
Astro Orbiter
People Mover
Carousel of Progress
Space Mountain
Buzz Lightyear
Monsters Inc
(stitch)
Disney World Railroad

and even more by Monorail and bus ... I still think its BS that they run attractions into the ground before they get back to show quality.

I agree with the basic point that Splash needs TLC -immediately. But Tiki Room and COP don't exactly compensate for two downed e-ticket mountains. Think of the guests who took Disney up on the invitation to come on down in response to the latest national TV ad campaign. They get down there and have two mountains, basically the essence of Frontierland, closed. That, along with lingering construction walls due to FLE, would leave many feeling ripped off.
In addition many of them would have parkhoppers anyway, so waving those around is not exactly a big whoop.

To add even more fuel ... Universal continues to up the stakes ... Google the new Cinematic Spectacular show they will be debuting this summer ... the show will rival World of Color ... Disney really needs to up their game and start investing more in new rides and shows, and less on interactive ques, reservation systems for their rides and new park entry systems.

Your name will only get you so far ...

What Universal announced today looks jaw-dropping. WoC is the most amazing night time spectacular I have experienced at any park. If UCS measures up anywhere close to that it will draw huge crowds, and rightfully so.
TDO is getting dominated by Universal right now. I don't think the ever-so-slow-coming FLE is going to be anywhere near enough to grab momentum back. JMO.


:ROFLOL::lookaroun:brick:
 

janoimagine

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I agree. It is impossible to accurately compare DLR and WDW in terms of the impact of downed attractions. TDO has made this fiasco, now has to deal with it. I don't see how they could take two mountains off-line at MK concurrently while they are running a national TV campaign featuring said mountains. Guests would have every right to get ticked off and go vent at Guest Relations.

I agree with the basic point that Splash needs TLC -immediately. But Tiki Room and COP don't exactly compensate for two downed e-ticket mountains. Think of the guests who took Disney up on the invitation to come on down in response to the latest national TV ad campaign. They get down there and have two mountains, basically the essence of Frontierland, closed. That, along with lingering construction walls due to FLE, would leave many feeling ripped off.
In addition many of them would have parkhoppers anyway, so waving those around is not exactly a big whoop.:

I don't know ... I work in advertising and as a creative I can tell you it's our job to, to an extent, mislead / entice you and get you to buy the product so thats a thin argument at best. On top of that if it were Disney World's Mountains featured in those commercials I might agree with you, however it is far from it, it is all footage from Disneyland with Disney Worlds castle thrown in at the end and the tag is the generic Disney Parks so ... you get my point.

I wasnt saying that COP or Tiki were the end all solutions to Splash, but rather the list as a whole. My point is their is still pleanty of entertainment to satisfy in the absence of 2 e-tickets being down. Unfortunately people seem to define entertainment as thrill rides instead of looking at the bigger picture.
 

raymusiccity

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I agree that there are a few that seem to constantly relish pointing out perceived shortcomings at WDW, while they look longingly at UNI with rose colored glasses. Take a gander at a video of the 'Macy's' parade at UNI and it looks amatureish at best. 'A bad day at Disney is better than the best day at UNI.'

IMO :)
 

HMF

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I agree that there are a few that seem to constantly relish pointing out perceived shortcomings at WDW, while they look longingly at UNI with rose colored glasses. Take a gander at a video of the 'Macy's' parade at UNI and it looks amatureish at best. 'A bad day at Disney is better than the best day at UNI.'

IMO :)

Also, a bad day at Disneyland is better than a good day at WDW, at least for the time being.
 

janoimagine

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I agree that there are a few that seem to constantly relish pointing out perceived shortcomings at WDW, while they look longingly at UNI with rose colored glasses. Take a gander at a video of the 'Macy's' parade at UNI and it looks amatureish at best. 'A bad day at Disney is better than the best day at UNI.'

IMO :)

I agree with you on the parade, but go experience the Harry Potter attractions, and then you will see that Disney has been 1 upped by their closest competitor. I love Disney, but in Orlando, Universal is taking them to the woodshed.
 

Captain Chaos

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I agree. It is impossible to accurately compare DLR and WDW in terms of the impact of downed attractions. TDO has made this fiasco, now has to deal with it. I don't see how they could take two mountains off-line at MK concurrently while they are running a national TV campaign featuring said mountains. Guests would have every right to get ticked off and go vent at Guest Relations.

Isn't Disney being misleading when they advertise A Mode, fully functioning yeti, meanwhile, in reality, we get this:

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And yes, that is a scene from Airplane... Since this scene was a mockery of Saturday Night Fever, and the current Disco yeti is a mockery of what the yeti is supposed to do, I felt the picture fit :)
 

invader

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*There is more than one HP attraction. Only one was new, but most guests aren't picking nits when they enjoy HP-Land. Emphasis on the land as it is an entire themed environment and not just one attraction as you are implying.

Okay. Shops, restaurant, and new attraction.
 

Lee

Adventurer
TDO is getting dominated by Universal right now. I don't think the ever-so-slow-coming FLE is going to be anywhere near enough to grab momentum back. JMO.
You are correct.
Uni announced some nice little items today. But the elephant in the room is WWoHP2.0. Disney doesn't have an answer ready for it, much like they didn't for 1.0. They know this, and some on the inside are beginning to squirm.

Hopefully, the condition will spread.

Where are the new Disney rides going? West coast. Nothing substantial moving forward, other than Avatar creeping it's way through development, at WDW that I know of.
 

invader

Well-Known Member
You are correct.
Uni announced some nice little items today. But the elephant in the room is WWoHP2.0. Disney doesn't have an answer ready for it, much like they didn't for 1.0. They know this, and some on the inside are beginning to squirm.

Hopefully, the condition will spread.

Where are the new Disney rides going? West coast. Nothing substantial moving forward, other than Avatar creeping it's way through development, at WDW that I know of.

Sad thing is, if my research is correct, they (TDO) has had many plans shelved. Hopefully something will get dusted off soon.
 

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