raven
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Right you are! I laugh at myself for that! :lol:
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Right you are! I laugh at myself for that! :lol:
WDW1974
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Originally Posted by WDW1974
I go to WDW...
Yes. They sure do. I don't know why I am going back and forth except that you are a regular here and not a troll like that bulls dude.
But I have posted very recently yet again (and one would think you'd have read it since you appear to read everything I post) that I spend far less time and, much more important to your employer, money at WDW.
I was the equivalent of a whale to the WDW Co for decades. I was the one staying at deluxe resorts when you couldn't use timeshare points. I was the one eating at their fine dining locales daily. I was the one going to their spas. I was the one who could (and did) drop thousands of merchandise on a single visit. I was the one renting their boats and bikes at ridiculous prices.
Now ... one AP (at the lowest price point) ... for only the second time in 22 years I didn't spend a single night at a WDW resort in 2011 ... no DDE because I don't want 20% off of prices they've raised 35-40% and lowered quality ... no real merchandise unless it's with a CM's 50% holiday discount or at Prop Control ... when I bring family or friends they are always comped into the parks (vs. having their own APs or multi-day tix).
I spent a fair amount of time at WDW in 2011, but I'll bet it all added up to less money spent than on a single week-long trip to the WL or Poly or BC back in the day.
So do I still visit WDW? Absolutely.
Do they still have me?
Absolutely not. They lost me years ago ... and as Walt used to say it costs a helluva lot more to get the customer back.
~Oh, and I also 'steal' soda at the resorts!~
Originally Posted by WDW1974
I go to WDW...
Yes. They sure do. I don't know why I am going back and forth except that you are a regular here and not a troll like that bulls dude.
But I have posted very recently yet again (and one would think you'd have read it since you appear to read everything I post) that I spend far less time and, much more important to your employer, money at WDW.
I was the equivalent of a whale to the WDW Co for decades. I was the one staying at deluxe resorts when you couldn't use timeshare points. I was the one eating at their fine dining locales daily. I was the one going to their spas. I was the one who could (and did) drop thousands of merchandise on a single visit. I was the one renting their boats and bikes at ridiculous prices.
Now ... one AP (at the lowest price point) ... for only the second time in 22 years I didn't spend a single night at a WDW resort in 2011 ... no DDE because I don't want 20% off of prices they've raised 35-40% and lowered quality ... no real merchandise unless it's with a CM's 50% holiday discount or at Prop Control ... when I bring family or friends they are always comped into the parks (vs. having their own APs or multi-day tix).
I spent a fair amount of time at WDW in 2011, but I'll bet it all added up to less money spent than on a single week-long trip to the WL or Poly or BC back in the day.
So do I still visit WDW? Absolutely.
Do they still have me?
Absolutely not. They lost me years ago ... and as Walt used to say it costs a helluva lot more to get the customer back.
~Oh, and I also 'steal' soda at the resorts!~
WDW1974
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raven
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If you step foot onto WDW property, they still got you. You just can't stay away. :wave:
WDW1974
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Damn. If only I wasn't doing laundry (yeah, the Spirit does do mundane tasks too!), I might have not missed something good.
~Pass the Fabric Softener~
WDW1974
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That's true in only the smallest senses ... if, for example, I used to be the type of guest that dropped an average of $17,000 a year at WDW and now they get me for $1,700 in total spending annually ... well, most businesses would see me as a 'loss'
Oh, and those figures are pretty ballpark for me say in 1991 or 2001 vs. today.
~Vegas: Much Better Value!~
TalkingHead
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For all the sharks like Spirit who still go and spend less than they used to, there are people like me who used to make annual visits but now only visit WDW if there's a compelling reason (usually a new attraction -- and being a quasi-local, I usually get a CM to get me into the park, too). In fact, during the past two trips to MGM and MK, I felt something I don't recall ever having felt at a Disney park: boredom. And that's coming from someone who visits each park *maybe* once every two years.
I know I'm not in WDW's target demographic. They want to attract first-time visitors who can't tell how the parks have stagnated and timeshare owners who are locked in (and probably some of whom feel buyer's remorse). So be it. In the meantime, I stay interested in what the other Orlando attractions are doing to remain fresh experiences.
But -- like watching a gruesome train wreck -- I'm continually fascinated by how WDW has mismanaged the parks over the past decade. At least the official Blog can reassure me that WDW is better than ever.
Tom Morrow
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The crowds have been more evenly dispersed throughout the year lately. Aside from a week here or there, there isn't really an off season anymore. Summer crowds are not really much worse than say, a day in October.
The time they chose avoids the two true heavy crowd periods - spring break and the holidays.
TarzanRocked99-
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yeah with the discounting that goes on during the offseason summer has now become one of the slower times of the year actually
HMF
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I am starting to think that the Spaceship Earth we have now is what they wanted. I don't buy that they were not finished since they want your attention on the screen constantly.
HMF
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The Disney Parks Blog very rarely has anything interesting to say in my experience.
flynnibus
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Summer isn't the busiest time of the year... easter, christmas, and NYE are. That's why it closes in April - not March... get through the busy spring break and easter is early this year (April 8). Expect it to shut doors probably the following week. Disney's 2012 season switches on April 14.. I expect TT to close then.
Summer is actually a VALUE season for large parts of it. Summer is one of the cheapest times to go due to the oppressive heat... people like to vacation in FL in the winter to get to warmer climates.. not leave their warm climate to goto the sauna.
disney fan 13
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HMF
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Here's my favorite.
http://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/
I also used to like Re-Imagineering but they seem to have decided that the dark days are over which they mostly are (At Disneyland)
This refurb is really exciting. Great information from all those who said it was coming. THIS is one of the things I have been looking forward to at EPCOT. It sounds like it will bring Test Track into the Futrue World theming more than the current present-day industry theme does.
Hrudey3032
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Whoa when did the shops close there? I must have just missed this.
NoChesterHester
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The shops upstairs have been closed for years.
Hrudey3032
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:ROFLOL: Sorry I saw the pics of the Wilderness Post with closed door and thought it was that.
That doesn't negate any of his points, though. I totally see where 1974 is coming from. Things seemed a lot cooler years ago than they do now. Every friend I have that visits WDW will have a story about some lame attraction they saw. I have yet to hear anyone say anything good about Stitch's Great Escape, yet the thing stays open, continually annoying unsuspecting guests day after day after day. Is that really a good business direction?
The idea seems to be to pull as much money out of families who don't care as much about the details. Wouldn't they make even more $$$ if they attempted to please everyone?