Unsettling “security” checks.

[jloucks]

Over the years how many cases of meth labs, prostitution, child trafficking, weapons etc have been found in resort rooms to justify these "security checks"? Is this an excuse to make sure you don't have people in the room you have not payed for?

I was thinking the same thing. Sure doesn't seem justified statistically.

Disney cares about revenue. Both present and future. Bad headlines could impact the brand, which is the same thing as impact the $$$. The number crunchers must have run the probabilities of one of these headlines occurring and calculated the brand cost to be X amount and to bring the odds down, noticed the cost to creeper on our rooms is cheaper than the $$$ impact of an incident.

WDW is saving money by creepering our rooms, it is that simple.

 

[Weather_Lady]

I don't know of any specific incidents, but it would be the perfect place to "make an exchange". Where else would an adult escorting a crying child arouse less suspicion?

[Sorry if I'm repeating. I didn't read all the responses.]

FWIW, I don't know about trafficking, but sexual abuse of children has been documented at WDW resorts (as it has at hotels all over the world). I work for the federal court system and have been privy at least two criminal prosecutions that involved child ography filmed inside Disney hotel rooms in broad daylight. The fact that the rooms are so distinctively decorated actually assisted investigators in identifying where and when the crimes took place. I'll gladly trade a little of my privacy in a hotel room for the knowledge that it's been made a little more difficult for criminals to molest children (or engage in other criminal activity) there.

 

[Lilofan]

I was thinking the same thing. Sure doesn't seem justified statistically.

Disney cares about revenue. Both present and future. Bad headlines could impact the brand, which is the same thing as impact the $$$. The number crunchers must have run the probabilities of one of these headlines occurring and calculated the brand cost to be X amount and to bring the odds down, noticed the cost to creeper on our rooms is cheaper than the $$$ impact of an incident.

WDW is saving money by creepering our rooms, it is that simple.

Let's get real now... Disney has a huge powerful PR machine that can spin any story to the media ( if it even gets leaked to the media) to be in a better light. Disney will do their internal investigation first then alert media later if at all possible which is probably a lot of the times. A company like Disney would prefer probably to keep their dirty laundry internal.

 

[ninjaprincesst]

Who is going to pay Disney prices to host their trafficked kids when they can be minutes away for a fraction of the cost and with 10x better accessibility?

I don't know but I do remember a case a couple of years ago where the located a missing young girl due to a photo on a "dark" website where the detective recognized the room at POP from the photo and the girl was rescued, so it does happen.

 

[unmitigated disaster]

I still don't get why this is unsettling. Even if they didn't have it if you don't want to be disturbed between, say, 2 and 5, it's up to you to be proactive about this.

 

[willtravel]

So is housekeeping coming into the room and making beds, sweep carpet, new towels, etc,,,? Or just emptying trash and look around?

 

[flynnibus]

I don't know but I do remember a case a couple of years ago where the located a missing young girl due to a photo on a "dark" website where the detective recognized the room at POP from the photo and the girl was rescued, so it does happen.

Big difference between kids that are being exploited (such as the example from weather lady) and the idea of escorts/hookers basing out of the hotels (which was brought up before).

 

[jloucks]

I still don't get why this is unsettling. Even if they didn't have it if you don't want to be disturbed between, say, 2 and 5, it's up to you to be proactive about this.

Maybe it is an introvert -vs- extrovert thing. Some people, esp introverts, are especially protective of their privacy and space. Extroverts on the other hand would not mind random people they just met joining them in their rooms for an after park game of scrabble.

I myself am torn between housekeeping and privacy. I always go with housekeeping, but there is a part of me that would like to just keep strangers out of my room.

I can also acquiesce to the greater good. If WDW is infested with dirty pedo perverts, then yea, go ahead and check all the rooms, mine included. It is worth it if it helps.

 

[Chi84]

So is housekeeping coming into the room and making beds, sweep carpet, new towels, etc,,,? Or just emptying trash and look around?

If you receive daily housekeeping services, the room will be made up as usual by the housekeeper and, in our experience, this will count as the security check. DVC rooms do not get daily housekeeping, so they just come in and empty the trash and that serves as the security check. I've heard that if you decline housekeeping, someone will come in to check the room daily.

 

[flynnibus]

Disney is doing it because the industry is doing it.. and Disney doesn't want to be in the headlines about 'xyz happened in a disney hotel room'. Its much easier to play it safe and go through the motions.. then it is play some moral high water mark about consumer privacy.

 

[DryerLintFan]

What are you people doing in your rooms in the middle of the day that you're so concerned about being caught doing?

LOL I can think of a few.... activities.... that it would be awkward to be walked in on.... I think we all can

 

[piglet21]

LOL I can think of a few.... activities.... that it would be awkward to be walked in on.... I think we all can

Um yes! My husband and I are DVC members and were staying at Wilderness Lodge. We had the door lock latched so the CM wasn't able to barge in, but she knocked ONCE in the middle of the day (which we heard) and then IMMEDIATELY proceeded to try to open the door. Awkward doesn't even begin to describe the feeling! I totally understand needing to do the checks, but especially in DVC rooms where there are kitchens and people often are in their room during the day, I would think the CM would knock, give it a few seconds, knock again, and then try to open the door. She's lucky the thing was latched or she would have seen a whole lot more than she bargained for!

 

[Benjamin_Nicholas]

Get used to it. This is the new normal.

Don't like it... Don't stay on property.

 

[Prince-1]

I’m sorry if this a re-hashed topic but we haven’t been here in a year and a half. It’s not a minor inconvenience to us and obviously that’s what matters to... us. The fact that the latch would stop them isn’t the point. It’s the fact that they are repeatedly ignoring their own policy of reaching out via phone if the placard is in place is the real issue. I fear you’ve missed this entirely.

We are DVC and although your brutally simplistic advice to “stay somewhere else” is easy for you to type , it is t as easy to implement for people who have invested in the high quality accommodations that is the DVC.

OH, and , If it’s a topic you are clearly tired of seeing, why did you post a completely worthless reply. You can certainly choose to post somewhere else.

Welcome to forums like this. People expect you to do an extensive search to see if a topic had been already discussed and then get mad if you bring it up again. Your response was perfect.

 

[KaliSplash]

I think Monty hits the nail on the head here. They want to make sure you are not lying there dead. We were at CB last month and unfortunately they only came in the morning while we were at the parks only twice in 6 days., The other four days, they knocked and I answered the door, declining service. They were fine with that. No intrusion, though it would have interrupted a nap if we had been asleep. I think it is much more about making sure no one is dead than being worried about a Las Vegas gunman storing guns and ammo.

 

[larryz]

Get used to it. This is the new normal.

Don't like it... Don't stay on property.

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[Benjamin_Nicholas]

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You do realize that in doing this, management can and will escalate to entering without permission.

... And legally, they can.

Make it as difficult as you want, but Disney's policies aren't changing. As I said before, this is the new normal.

 

[scout68]

Get used to it. This is the new normal.

Don't like it... Don't stay on property.

UGH.

Perfect.
Don't like something? Hold your nose and swallow. Don't dare try to debate something that was once a expected and unquestioned and still is in many many hotels of greater and lesser quality. If there were only other examples of "privileges" that were taken away only to be returned due to a voiced public displeasure. (insert any one you like)

 

[scout68]

I still don't get why this is unsettling. Even if they didn't have it if you don't want to be disturbed between, say, 2 and 5, it's up to you to be proactive about this.

It's unsettling when you have a teenage boy and girl who are allowed to return to the room on his or her own to shower or nap or eat and now has to deal with a man or woman entering her room at any time they choose. Does it sound unsettling when it's put that way? Because it is. Plain and simple, and before you start with the don't like it don't stay bit; it's not as easy a decision when you've invested tens of thousands on "pre-paid" vacations though the DVC.

That's our reality now and I think it's worth bringing it to light.

 

[NickMaio]

UGH.

Perfect.
Don't like something? Hold your nose and swallow. Don't dare try to debate something that was once a expected and unquestioned and still is in many many hotels of greater and lesser quality. If there were only other examples of "privileges" that were taken away only to be returned due to a voiced public displeasure. (insert any one you like)

Best post of the whole thread.......
Nice to see someone throwing the real issue out there.