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juniorthomas · May 12, 2011

ParkMan73 said:
This makes me a bit sad too that this idea has permeated park planning.

I think the real measure of a park is now how "thrilling" it is, but instead how much it "wows" you. Epcot always "wow'd" me as a kid and it was easily my favorite park. Sure, space mountain was fun, but the wow in Epcot was something I thought of even as I went home. Science topics can certainly wow you.

I just hope that if they do something, they resist the temptation to do yet another thrill ride - yawn! If I want thrill rides, I'll go to Six Flags - it's a whole lot cheaper than flying to Florida.

Thrill rides are what bring people to the park. While they wait to get on those new rides they experience everything else. It's easier to market your park when you have bigger, splashier things to sell to potential park guests.

Of course Disney is a step ahead of Six Flags in that in addition to the thrill rides, they actually DO have other things to do. It's always nice that Disney usually brings E-tickets and lesser rides to the park simultaneously, giving a nice balance...

marni1971 · May 12, 2011

juniorthomas said:
Thrill rides are what bring people to the park. While they wait to get on those new rides they experience everything else.

Interesting view.

sublimesting · May 12, 2011

They should just eliminate the movie and add more dinos! Until then I should be able to bypass the movie and just ride the ride.

juniorthomas · May 12, 2011

marni1971 said:
Interesting view.

Interesting as in "Hmm, he may be on to something with that well rounded thought" or interesting as in "I'll just say something to make him think he's smart, so he'll feel better"

marni1971 · May 12, 2011

juniorthomas said:
Interesting as in "Hmm, he may be on to something with that well rounded thought" or interesting as in "I'll just say something to make him think he's smart, so he'll feel better"

No, one I don`t personally quite agree with, more one that I`d imagine Six Flags would think instead. Disney was never about thrill rides. Sure they have a place, but not all - or the majority of - rides need to be thrill at a family park.

juniorthomas · May 12, 2011

marni1971 said:
No, one I don`t personally quite agree with, more one that I`d imagine Six Flags would think instead. Disney was never about thrill rides. Sure they have a place, but not all - or the majority of - rides need to be thrill at a family park.

I'm not saying Disney was invented around the idea of building thrill rides. I'm just saying, you can get more people into your park with some splashy E-ticket than you can with a show or a smaller attraction.

marni1971 · May 12, 2011

juniorthomas said:
I'm not saying Disney was invented around the idea of building thrill rides. I'm just saying, you can get more people into your park with some splashy E-ticket than you can with a show or a smaller attraction.

Oh indeed. But an E Ticket dosn`t have to be a thrill ride.

thelookingglass · May 12, 2011

marni1971 said:
No, one I don`t personally quite agree with, more one that I`d imagine Six Flags would think instead. Disney was never about thrill rides. Sure they have a place, but not all - or the majority of - rides need to be thrill at a family park.

Yeah, but you can't argue that the majority of Epcot visitors only ride stuff like UoE, Seas, Imagination, etc, while they wait for their Soarin' or Test Track fastpass to be valid.

flavious27 · May 12, 2011

juniorthomas said:
I'm not saying Disney was invented around the idea of building thrill rides. I'm just saying, you can get more people into your park with some splashy E-ticket than you can with a show or a smaller attraction.

agreed, the e-tickets bring the crowds in but the shows and smaller attractions keep them entertained and coming back.

flavious27 · May 12, 2011

thelookingglass said:
Yeah, but you can't argue that the majority of Epcot visitors only ride stuff like UoE, Seas, Imagination, etc, while they wait for their Soarin' or Test Track fastpass to be valid.

Well that is part of the reason why there is FP.

juniorthomas · May 13, 2011

marni1971 said:
Oh indeed. But an E Ticket dosn`t have to be a thrill ride.

It doesn't, that's true. So we're basically in one of those agree to disagree spots then.

juniorthomas · May 13, 2011

flavious27 said:
agreed, the e-tickets bring the crowds in but the shows and smaller attractions keep them entertained and coming back.

And LMA does neither of those. Snap. (a random attack on a ride that maybe someone, somewhere actually likes.)

UoE fits into that category well.

marni1971 · May 13, 2011

thelookingglass said:
Yeah, but you can't argue that the majority of Epcot visitors only ride stuff like UoE, Seas, Imagination, etc, while they wait for their Soarin' or Test Track fastpass to be valid.

If that is the state of WDW visitors today then it`s a sad state.

RSoxNo1 · May 13, 2011

marni1971 said:
If that is the state of WDW visitors today then it`s a sad state.

So much of what people love about Epcot have little to nothing to do with attractions. I'm in the minority here, but I think Epcot and Animal Kingdom are driven by the experience (or environment) of being there - however they both need the attraction lineup to compensate for the guests that don't appreciate that "experience".

For me, I'm somewhat indifferent about World Showcase. While occasionally I enjoy spending an hour or two to walk around World Showcase, I'm not enamored with any of the shops or restaurants. I understand that World Showcase is very well done, but I also understand that it's not what draws me to Epcot. For me, it's Soarin', Test Track, Turtle Talk and Illuminations. As such, Epcot is probably my least favorite park.

Compartively, I know there are people that view the Animal Kingdom the same way I view Epcot. They go for the attractions, and those offerings are much less than what Epcot has to offer. While I can spend time exploring all the Animal Exhibits or catching things like Flights of Wonder, I recognize that's not for everyone.

flavious27 · May 13, 2011

juniorthomas said:
And LMA does neither of those. Snap. (a random attack on a ride that maybe someone, somewhere actually likes.)

UoE fits into that category well.

LMA was entertaining the first or second time, it just needs to be refreshened, and not with cars.

juniorthomas · May 17, 2011

flavious27 said:
LMA was entertaining the first or second time, it just needs to be refreshened, and not with cars.

It's a one time ride, that's for sure. Its the DAK of rides. (And BOOM. Another unprovoked attack on an unrelated entity)

castevens · May 17, 2011

Youtube videos never ever do an attraction justice for many many reasons - especially videos of dead attractions because camcorders/cameras have come a long way in resolution and low-lighting ISO control since the 1990s.

Speaking of the 90's, it's mind-blowing to me that our fellow board member was born after the movie "Titanic" was released. No judgement, just interesting. Time flies.

flavious27 · May 17, 2011

juniorthomas said:
It's a one time ride, that's for sure. Its the DAK of rides. (And BOOM. Another unprovoked attack on an unrelated entity)

There is a disco ball in lma?

unkadug · May 17, 2011

flavious27 said:
There is a disco ball in lma?

Nothing says ENERGY like a disco ball

flavious27 · May 17, 2011

unkadug said:
Nothing says ENERGY like a disco ball

exactly.

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