Universe of Energy observation 4/24

flavious27

flavious27

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juniorthomas said:
I played a role in that too, in fact.

And Eisner was the CEO and Chairman of the Board. Jobs is just a board member. Sure, a board member is pretty important, but CEO and Chairman of the Board is a big as it gets. Nobody wants to take down a Prince; they all want the King.
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Jobs isn't the king?

I think it is harder to remove the chairman of a board vs just a board member. With the reports of how Jobs treated the MobileMe team, it would be hypocritical for jobs to stop google from sponsoring upgrades in epcot or anywhere else in the parks.
 
WondersOfLife

WondersOfLife

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SeaCastle said:
Just wondering, have you even personally experienced the original Universe of Energy? I'm getting the feeling that it was long gone before you were even born. Your argument (if there really is one) isn't holding any water.
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I'm 13. But I watched a video and the ride (preshow was cool) was like watching the history channel.

I've never experienced the Enchanted Tiki Room, Mickey Mouse Review, Horizons or World of Motion but I can tell that they are very entertaining and I love them. Universe of Energy was a waist of my time and was extremely boring to me.
 
juniorthomas

juniorthomas

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flavious27 said:
Jobs isn't the king?

I think it is harder to remove the chairman of a board vs just a board member. With the reports of how Jobs treated the MobileMe team, it would be hypocritical for jobs to stop google from sponsoring upgrades in epcot or anywhere else in the parks.
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Again, I don't think he'd speak out against Google sponsoring an attraction at Disney. I think, like Schmidt when he was on the Apple board, he'd recuse himself from any decision so as to avoid the conflict of interest.

But it was easier for Roy Disney to build a movement to oust the CEO and Chairman of the Board because more Disney shareholders knew about Eisner and ultimately all major Disney decisions came down to him. It would take fewer people to kick out a board member, but you'd have to really work to find a reason to kick them out.

That Steve Jobs works for a company who doesn't like Google doesn't seem like a large enough reason to end his relationship with TWDC
 
Oddysey

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WondersOfLife said:
Hey, I said 30%... that goes for the WDWMagic users and about 2 or 3 comments on EEA youtube videos.

The "critics" think to much of rides these days and just find the negatives about it...
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How did you extract the sample of WDWMagic users, how did you determine their preferences, and what was the size of the sample?

Just curious because you are continually referencing the arbitrary number of 30%.
 
CDavid

CDavid

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WondersOfLife said:
I'm 13. But I watched a video and the ride (preshow was cool) was like watching the history channel.
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Do you really think watching a video is a close enough equivalent to actually experiencing the original Universe of Energy for you to judge just what you really would have thought of the attraction?
 
marni1971

marni1971

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WondersOfLife said:
I'm 13. But I watched a video and the ride (preshow was cool) was like watching the history channel.

I've never experienced the Enchanted Tiki Room, Mickey Mouse Review, Horizons or World of Motion but I can tell that they are very entertaining and I love them. Universe of Energy was a waist of my time and was extremely boring to me.
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Kids today....

The movies of the original were stunning when seen for real. Far better than today. As was the Diorama.
 
WondersOfLife

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Oddysey said:
How did you extract the sample of WDWMagic users, how did you determine their preferences, and what was the size of the sample?

Just curious because you are continually referencing the arbitrary number of 30%.
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I read through the forums and added up each comment saying who hate/like Ellen's Energy Adventure. Then went to about 5 youtube videos on Ellen's Energy Adventure and added up the good and bad comments on there. I found a total of like 32 or 33 bad comments and lots of good comments (mostly on youtube) so I rounded the bad comments to the nearest ten and just put all the good comments as the other 70%. I'm not math wizard but I'm sure that that's the amount of haters on Ellen if I only got 30% it seems about right! :drevil:
 
WondersOfLife

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CDavid said:
Do you really think watching a video is a close enough equivalent to actually experiencing the original Universe of Energy for you to judge just what you really would have thought of the attraction?
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Umm.. yep!

I watched a video of Jungle Cruise and then when I finally went on it last year it was basically the same, but I still enjoyed it.

I watched a video of The Country Bear Jamboree before I saw it in person and I enjoyed it as much as I watched it on youtube! (I've watched videos of the CBJ like 50 times)


Although I must say it's not the same for thrill rides... Ellen's Energy Adventure is the same in video too.

I guess it's just me. :shrug:
 
WondersOfLife

WondersOfLife

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marni1971 said:
Kids today....
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My dad's a retired principal and he has said time and time again that kids today are just the same as they were when he was a kid. I'm guessing I'm probably just the same/smart as you when you were my age.


.....that's funny to think about.... :ROFLOL:
 
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WDW Monorail

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flavious27 said:
Pavilion of Energy is in Future World, oil really doesn't say fuel of the future. We are moving away from fossil fuels, having a fossil fuel company sponsor would be like carl jr sponsoring a WOL's good diet exhibit.
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In what way are we moving away from fossil fuels? I don't see any new fission power plants, solar arrays or wind turbines being built to take over energy supply. Solar arrays are very cost prohibitive and there is a lot of [ironic] opposition to fission plants and wind turbines.

What used to be oil companies 15-20 years ago are now energy companies. They're the ones taking the initiative to look for other fuels whether it be wind, air or some other element. However they've been severly limited in doing such aside from biofuels were some companies have been succesful.
 
marni1971

marni1971

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WondersOfLife said:
My dad's a retired principal and he has said time and time again that kids today are just the same as they were when he was a kid. I'm guessing I'm probably just the same/smart as you when you were my age.


.....that's funny to think about.... :ROFLOL:
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When I was 13... hmmm....

It seems kids of today are such a part of the `me` and `now` generation. The majority can`t stand a ride more that stretches into double digits, and perish the thought if they can`t sit down. And don`t forget the thrill element.

Not a dig at you, just a look at the direction of the parks over the past 2 decades to accomodate those with short attention spans. You know - Soarin' to M:S to TT and forget Energy, Innoventions and Circle of Life.
 
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ParkMan73

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marni1971 said:
When I was 13... hmmm....

It seems kids of today are such a part of the `me` and `now` generation. The majority can`t stand a ride more that stretches into double digits, and perish the thought if they can`t sit down. And don`t forget the thrill element.

Not a dig at you, just a look at the direction of the parks over the past 2 decades to accomodate those with short attention spans. You know - Soarin' to M:S to TT and forget Energy, Innoventions and Circle of Life.
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This makes me a bit sad too that this idea has permeated park planning.

I think the real measure of a park is now how "thrilling" it is, but instead how much it "wows" you. Epcot always "wow'd" me as a kid and it was easily my favorite park. Sure, space mountain was fun, but the wow in Epcot was something I thought of even as I went home. Science topics can certainly wow you.

I just hope that if they do something, they resist the temptation to do yet another thrill ride - yawn! If I want thrill rides, I'll go to Six Flags - it's a whole lot cheaper than flying to Florida.
 

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