Two Spirited Quickees...Imagination closing

MerlinTheGoat

Well-Known Member
Haunted Mansion's 2007 refurb was really, really good. Better audio, the Escher staircase room, new attic, floating Leota, and other minor enhancements. Respects the original and improves the ride dramatically.
True, I forgot about that one. It was quite a successful one overall i'd say

Though one thing I didn't like about it is the new bride. It's a corny replacement (not to mention lost all sense of creepiness) and somehow the projection effect of her face looks flatter and worse than any of the other projected heads throughout (which are all far older). Not enough to ruin the fact that the rest of the ride was a massive improvement, but a little gripe. I don't miss the pop up ghosts in the attic though, kind of obnoxious and cheap looking (the vanishing head portraits were a fantastic replacements, so that's a plus).

SSE'94 is still my gold standard of how to do a major overhaul of a beloved classic the right way.
 

Obi Walt Kenobi

Well-Known Member
Does this add fuel to the Dr. Door rumors? I don't see them getting rid of Osborn lights entirely, the more they think it through I'm sure they will come up with a solution. It seems to be a huge draw, and a tradition for so many people.
 

MerlinTheGoat

Well-Known Member
The new Test Track is a vast improvement over the original, as I see it. I have only seen videos of World of Motion, but I'd probably prefer it. I get the whole thrill rides thing, but WoM looks like an excellent dark ride that might well be just a step behind Haunted Mansion or Pirates.

Both would be ideal, but if I had to take one, World of Motion.
It's difficult to compare rides with completely different styles and atmospheres, but I prefer World of Motion over Haunted Mansion at least and gives Pirates a run for its money (definitely beats WDW's at least, I use Paris' as the best version of Pirates). Though I certainly love Mansion's atmosphere and realize it's difficult to compare them. It's just incredibly hard to beat EPCOT's old roster, they were truly something.

Spaceship Earth (94 version is my fav), Horizons, Imagination 1.0 and World of Motion are all easily contenders for the greatest rides ever made to me. The non-WDW versions of Pirates along with the WDW/TDL versions of Splash Mountain are the only rides i'd place around the same level of impressiveness. Though I highly value rides with elaborate physical show scenes and tons of animatronics in my opinions on rides. Having those are important to me.

So i'll just say these are my "incredible six" (and won't place one over the other in brilliance)-
- Spaceship Earth 94
- Horizons
- Imagination 1.0
- World of Motion
- Splash Mountain (WDW/TDL versions)
- Pirates of the Caribbean (DLP version)

And yes it sucks beyond fathoming that only 2 out of those 6 are still present and as good as ever (though I can only go by what I've heard about Pirates at DLP due to not having visited in decades now). SSE is still there at least, but needs to have its unfortunate partial lobotomy undone to regain its lofty status (at least it's still closer to intact and more salvageable than the other 3 ruinations).
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
Does this add fuel to the Dr. Doof rumors? I don't see them getting rid of Osborn lights entirely, the more they think it through I'm sure they will come up with a solution. It seems to be a huge draw, and a tradition for so many people.

Fixed that for you.

I'm not a spelling freak, but it completely changes the meaning of your post.

Anyhow, I could see them dropping the Osborne Lights, but I suspect if they did they'd replace them with some other holiday spectical.

The guy responsible for the lights died in 2011...
 

Admiral01

Premium Member
It's difficult to compare rides with completely different styles and atmospheres, but I prefer World of Motion over Haunted Mansion at least and gives Pirates a run for its money (definitely beats WDW's at least, I use Paris' as the best version of Pirates). Though I certainly love Mansion's atmosphere and realize it's difficult to compare them. It's just incredibly hard to beat EPCOT's old roster, they were truly something.

Spaceship Earth (94 version is my fav), Horizons, Imagination 1.0 and World of Motion are all easily contenders for the greatest rides ever made to me. The non-WDW versions of Pirates along with the WDW/TDL versions of Splash Mountain are the only rides i'd place around the same level of impressiveness. Though I highly value rides with elaborate physical show scenes and tons of animatronics in my opinions on rides. Having those are important to me.

So i'll just say these are my "incredible six" (and won't place one over the other in brilliance)-
- Spaceship Earth 94
- Horizons
- Imagination 1.0
- World of Motion
- Splash Mountain (WDW/TDL versions)
- Pirates of the Caribbean (DLP version)

And yes it sucks beyond fathoming that only 2 out of those 6 are still present and as good as ever (though I can only go by what I've heard about Pirates at DLP due to not having visited in decades now). SSE is still there at least, but needs to have its unfortunate partial lobotomy undone to regain its lofty status (at least it's still closer to intact and more salvageable than the other 3 ruinations).

By the way, we rode the Scotch Whiskey Experience in Edinburgh, Scotland back in late May. As far as non-Disney dark rides go, it was really cool. High quality. Much better than current Imagination. Plus, the ticket included a scotch tasting, which is never a bad thing.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
By the way, we rode the Scotch Whiskey Experience in Edinburgh, Scotland back in late May. As far as non-Disney dark rides go, it was really cool. High quality. Much better than current Imagination. Plus, the ticket included a scotch tasting, which is never a bad thing.

Before or after the ride? Because...if it's before, that may have coloured your opinion. <grin>
 

Magenta Panther

Well-Known Member
I dot understand the hate for the Nemo Seas Pavillion either??? And the only complaint for it seems to be that it retells the same story from the movie??? Doesn't every single ride in fantasyland "retell" those movies???? I don't get why nemo is singled out???



I don't like it because it's so cheezy. Not for one moment do I feel like I'm under the sea with Nemo - I just see a bunch of projections on screens. Big deal. Also, those seagulls outside the pavilion seem like they're broken at least half the time. :p
 

Obi Walt Kenobi

Well-Known Member
Fixed that for you.

I'm not a spelling freak, but it completely changes the meaning of your post.

Anyhow, I could see them dropping the Osborne Lights, but I suspect if they did they'd replace them with some other holiday spectical.

The guy responsible for the lights died in 2011...

Thanks! I have a bad habit of not reading my own post. If they did get rid of them I would expect new holiday plans coming down the pipe. But I might be expecting too much.
 

El Grupo

Well-Known Member
Nothing will ever convince me that Test Track is anywhere close to World of Motion, Mission SPACE is anywhere close to Horizons, Imagination 2 and 3 are anywhere close to 1.0 and etc etc.

I agree. I believe the original concept for World of Motion was to have guests riding in cars through or around the attraction. In the first refurb, Disney could have maintained the scenes from WoM, introduced the cars and changed the finale to embrace what we now experience with Test Track: a few quick twists and turns through the "CenterCore" then out and around the track.

Regarding Horizons, I do wish Disney would move the CoP to (or build a new version on) the old WoL pavilion site. And add a Horizons attraction.
 

MerlinTheGoat

Well-Known Member
I like the new Mickey shorts a lot. The character animation is a bit weird and could use some work (their expressions are a bit too zany and remind me too much of Ren and Stimpy), but I actually really like the background art. The yodeling cartoon actually reminded me of Mary Blair's artwork (especially the cuckoo clocks remind me of her Small World art), is that just me?

I definitely hope they continue these beyond just the ones planned so far. And I hope they do more cartoon shows in the future with art like this (or anything non-cgi). It would be amazing if we could also get some new more plot-heavy shows similar to Duck Tales and others from that era.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
I like the new Mickey shorts a lot. The character animation is a bit weird and could use some work (their expressions are a bit too zany and remind me too much of Ren and Stimpy), but I actually really like the background art. The yodeling cartoon actually reminded me of Mary Blair's artwork (especially the cuckoo clocks remind me of her Small World art), is that just me?

I definitely hope they continue these beyond just the ones planned so far. And I hope they do more cartoon shows in the future with art like this (or anything non-cgi). It would be amazing if we could also get some new more plot-heavy shows similar to Duck Tales and others from that era.

Disney afternoon 2.0? I'm on board!
 

MOXOMUMD

Well-Known Member
I like the new Mickey shorts a lot. The character animation is a bit weird and could use some work (their expressions are a bit too zany and remind me too much of Ren and Stimpy), but I actually really like the background art. The yodeling cartoon actually reminded me of Mary Blair's artwork (especially the cuckoo clocks remind me of her Small World art), is that just me?

It's not just you. They were purposely drawn into it to pay homage to Mary Blair.
 

MerlinTheGoat

Well-Known Member
It's not just you. They were purposely drawn into it to pay homage to Mary Blair.
I figured, Mary Blair was the first thing that popped into my head when I watched these new shorts, particularly the yodeling one. Awesome tribute and looks fantastic as a result! I hope they continue to revisit drawn animation in future animated TV shows (and get some great writers on board so we can have some sweet Disney Afternoon type shows like englanddg said).
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
To be completely honest, Living Seas, the initial ride through the middle of the tank was basically boring, boring, boring and incredibly short, even to someone that appreciates the purpose of EPCOT. At least the Nemo connection gave us something reliable to see.:)
...and in the process blocked half the windows into the tank that used to be visible from the Omnimover....
 

MOXOMUMD

Well-Known Member
What's with all the Phineas and Ferb hate?
The show is still in the middle of its fourth season, with a feature film slated to hit theatres next year. I really doubt they're going anywhere anytime soon...



Mission Marvel next month, feature film next year and a spinoff series in the works. The film Phineas and Ferb screenplay is being written by Michael Arndt who wrote Toy Story 3, Little Miss Sunshine, Oblivion, The Hunger Games:Catching Fire AND Star Wars Episode VII. So I don't think Phineas and Ferb will be your average cartoon movie.

In the past, yes. There used to be a 65 episode rule with Disney Channel shows. Not anymore.

Hannah Montana - 98 episodes
Wizards of Waverly Place- 106 episodes
Suite Life franchise - 158 episodes total
Good Luck Charlie (Still airing) - 84 Episodes
Phineas and Ferb (Still airing) - 109 episodes (Technically 192, if you count each vignette separately)

Kim Possible--87 epiosodes
 

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