'Turning Red' Coming Spring 2022

NateD1226

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"Many wonder whether Pixar animators are seeing red over the Jan. 7 announcement. According to several sources with close ties to Pixar, that’s not the case. Disappointment, not outrage, is a more apt description. “Everyone is really bummed, but most of us get it. Families just aren’t going to the movies,” says one person at Pixar.

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Luca and Soul were among the most viewed streaming movies of 2021 in the U.S., according to Nielsen, though exact numbers won’t be released until later this month. “We were told that Soul brought a ton of subscribers to Disney+. Luca started off slower but essentially did the same,” the Pixar source says separately. Doing a dual release in theaters and on the service might dilute that impact, the person says. (Turning Red will play in theaters in countries where Disney+ isn’t available.)"

 

doctornick

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I fully understand the disappointment from the Pixar folks, but as I look at the Disney+ upcoming releases, I get why this was shifted to streaming only - the upcoming slate for Disney+ is very weak and really needs this as a big release. The next most prominent things before Moon Knight comes out are some films that have already been in theaters (Free Guy, West Side Story).
 

Slpy3270

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doctornick

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Turning Red is getting a limited theatrical release in some US theaters.

Unfortunately, none in Canada. Not even Toronto where the film takes place.
Possibly related question: are we back to movies having to be related theatrically to be eligible for Oscars? I know they suspended that rule during the pandemic but wouldn’t be surprised to see it back for 2022. It is why you always used to see the Netflix etc Oscar bait films have a small theatrical release.
 

Disney Irish

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Possibly related question: are we back to movies having to be related theatrically to be eligible for Oscars? I know they suspended that rule during the pandemic but wouldn’t be surprised to see it back for 2022. It is why you always used to see the Netflix etc Oscar bait films have a small theatrical release.
Since Oscar eligibility is based on the previous year it would apply to Oscars 2023, but yes I suspect its back.
 

doctornick

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Since Oscar eligibility is based on the previous year it would apply to Oscars 2023, but yes I suspect its back.
Right. I’m talking about films released in 2022 (2023 Oscar ceremony). I know that 2021 releases did not have to be released in theaters to be eligible- hence why Luca, for example, is able to be nominated for Best animated film.

So it could be that Turning Red is getting some theater time to be eligible for awards.
 

Disney Irish

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Right. I’m talking about films released in 2022 (2023 Oscar ceremony). I know that 2021 releases did not have to be released in theaters to be eligible- hence why Luca, for example, is able to be nominated for Best animated film.

So it could be that Turning Red is getting some theater time to be eligible for awards.
In years past a film only had to be released in one Los Angeles County theater for 7 consecutive days to meet the “theater” requirement. So in reality a film still could be a streaming only released movie and still be nominated, that is how Netflix originals started getting nominated.
 

doctornick

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In years past a film only had to be released in one Los Angeles County theater for 7 consecutive days to meet the “theater” requirement. So in reality a film still could be a streaming only released movie and still be nominated, that is how Netflix originals started getting nominated.

I feel like we are talking past each other since you are just reiterating the point I was making. A lot of "streaming only" movies got limited small theatrical runs just for the purpose of making them eligible for awards. The number of theaters and duration of the release are so small that it serves no practical purpose in terms of box office numbers.

More specific to Turning Red, it looks like it is going to be shown in El Capital in LA and I would guess that this is specifically for Oscar eligibility more than any revenue generation.
 

Disney Irish

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I feel like we are talking past each other since you are just reiterating the point I was making. A lot of "streaming only" movies got limited small theatrical runs just for the purpose of making them eligible for awards. The number of theaters and duration of the release are so small that it serves no practical purpose in terms of box office numbers.

More specific to Turning Red, it looks like it is going to be shown in El Capital in LA and I would guess that this is specifically for Oscar eligibility more than any revenue generation.
No, you missed my point. Since we don't know the eligibility requirements of the 2023 Oscars, and won't know until January, we can't say for sure what the requirements will be. But I'm basically saying you're probably correct, based on the eligibility requirements of previous years prior to the pandemic, that Turning Red doing a 7 consecutive day run at El Capitan in LA (Mar 11-17) is specifically to be an awards contender. And just for 100% clarity, which you probably already know, the El Capitan is owned by Disney, hence why their movies premiere there and why their award contenders show there.
 

Sir_Cliff

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"Many wonder whether Pixar animators are seeing red over the Jan. 7 announcement. According to several sources with close ties to Pixar, that’s not the case. Disappointment, not outrage, is a more apt description. “Everyone is really bummed, but most of us get it. Families just aren’t going to the movies,” says one person at Pixar.

...

Luca and Soul were among the most viewed streaming movies of 2021 in the U.S., according to Nielsen, though exact numbers won’t be released until later this month. “We were told that Soul brought a ton of subscribers to Disney+. Luca started off slower but essentially did the same,” the Pixar source says separately. Doing a dual release in theaters and on the service might dilute that impact, the person says. (Turning Red will play in theaters in countries where Disney+ isn’t available.)"

I do feel for Pixar as this must be disappointing for all those who worked on yet another film being sent straight to Disney+. After Encanto, I do wonder whether the future strategy will just be to move all the major animated features to Disney+. They seem to be priming people to expect that they will available for no extra cost on Disney+ within at least a relatively short window, which really undercuts the motivation for a lot of their market to consider paying for the film in theatres.

To me, this film looks great. Surprised to see people suggesting Pixar has lost its way post-Lasseter as, honestly, the studio's output had already become somewhat mixed once it started churning out sequels. Both Soul and Luca were a welcome return to original stories (as is this one) that were well-received by audiences and critics. Personally, Luca is one of my favourite Pixar films and to me it looks like they're getting back on track after the sequel era.
 

NateD1226

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Turning Red debuts at 86% on Rotten Tomatoes with 14 reviews.

 

dreday3

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I plan to watch this this weekend.

Honestly, this isn't one I was really looking forward to, but I felt that way about Raya and that ended up being one of my top movies!

Either way, I know it won't be a bad movie.
 

Sir_Cliff

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I really enjoyed this film. Going back to earlier comments about whether Pixar had lost its way in recent years, this is another example to me of how Pixar is finding its way again with smartly and sensitively written original films that are both specific but broadly relatable. Found the ending of this one quite touching.
 

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I really enjoyed this film. Going back to earlier comments about whether Pixar had lost its way in recent years, this is another example to me of how Pixar is finding its way again with smartly and sensitively written original films that are both specific but broadly relatable. Found the ending of this one quite touching.
Did you catch the Easter egg at the end of the credits ?
 

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