spoodles
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When they close Space Mountain I plan on showing up with a BB gun pistol: "The mouse says you're closed. I say you're open."
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TTA and other Space Mountain rehab issues
- Thread starter captainkidd
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When they close Space Mountain I plan on showing up with a BB gun pistol: "The mouse says you're closed. I say you're open."
Good point.
I sprint to the Main Street Bakery.:slurp:
Majority of people head in one of 2 directions - Tomorrowland, specifically Space Mountain or Frontierland, specifically Thunder or Splash.
My guess is, with the closure of Space Mountain, most will head directly over to Frontierland.
joel_maxwell
Permanent Resident of EPCOT
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Well, the alternative is to not close it, not rehab it and let it get even worse until it falls apart. I know that you say it is fine by your standards, but for most of us it really hurts (the Ninja Vekoma Style - SF over Georgia).
I hate that it wont be open for your trip. I think that is were some of your frustration is coming from. It will pay off in the end. Besides, adding a E-ticket to compensate for this E-ticket going down is not only out of the question, but would have needed to be planned in the late 90's so it could have been built by this point.
It is what it is. Making somehting 21st century that is 1970 is good.
wvdisneyfamily
Well-Known Member
Ha :ROFLOL:
That was my only time at Disneyland too! I was upset but still managed to spend 11 hours at the park and didn't get everything in that I wanted to. I hope I can make it back one day also.
firemandisney
New Member
I was there in Fall of '04 and lets see, I missed Space, Matterhorn and The Haunted Mansion was closed for halloween refurb.
I had a GREAT time anyways.
Its sad the folks have to whine instead of enjoy what they have instead.
Kudos to the avove 2 posts and others that understand Disney has to close attractions from time to time and life STILL goes on.
bayoutinkbelle
Active Member
I've stood in many a line - albeit fast-moving ones - for Pirates and Mansion. As much as I love SM and TTA, I'll be thrilled when this rehab starts. I'll be there for a weekend trip in February and I'm hoping to walk by and see signs up about the work going on. THAT would be enough for me.
I really hope TTA gets some of the love during the downtime (but I agree that the narration should remain untouched). Anyone know anything on the odds of that?
I really hope TTA gets some of the love during the downtime (but I agree that the narration should remain untouched). Anyone know anything on the odds of that?
Iceviper123
Member
Haha
Just wait once the space mountain rehab is over.
Everyone will be in tomorrowland
and everywhere else will be less crowded.
Just wait once the space mountain rehab is over.
Everyone will be in tomorrowland
and everywhere else will be less crowded.
Chezman1399
Active Member
I don't know I didn't know they shared exactly how they were changing Space Mountain with you? Who knows what can be done, or what they will do? TTA is not listed as having down time right now so I'm sure they'll have some measure in place. Also most of the track is on the opposite side of the building from where the TTA travels once inside. Plus they don't usually do most heavy construction during the day, and with SM I would assume you don't have enough clearnace to fit a crane between the top track and the ceiling. With the train out the back of the mountain, and people around it all day, it would take some doing to take it down during operating hours. All you'd really need is something to hide what's going on and keep dust out when guests were actually riding through.
WildLodgeFan
New Member
Seems to me that I read on one of these threads that the TTA can be routed away from Space Mountain?!? Can any of the folks in the know chime in on that?
Chezman1399
Active Member
I have no clue, it sounds like it would be a good measure to have in place in case of a situation like this, but I'm sure they'll come up with something. If it did go down the entire time I would be surprised. the worst case scenario I would think would be down a day here or there depending on what they're doing.
jt04
Well-Known Member
No, though cars can be removed similar to the monorail. Any rerouting of the track would be incredibly expensive and only temporary. Everything about the TTA needs work. It can't run while construction is going on in SM. Bottom line, it only makes sense for SM and TTA to receive their rehabs at the same time. Fortunately WDW has 3 other major parks to divert the crowds. Not a big deal.
Imagineer Mitch
Active Member
well of coarse where tta goes near space mountain they could always cover it up with the green walls saying this area is being refurbished for you future enjoyment :lol:
Nope... the TTA runs directly under Alpha and Omegas hills and the crossover sections. Not to mention between the lifts and Explorer Ones support structures, and directly between the to-be-covered- load vistas. The TTA will close for a portion of the rehab. In part for safety, in part for some work on itself.
It`s rumour only. In theory it`s possible to direct the WEDway via the garage along the inside of the mountain, but logistically and asthetically it`d be easier to build a new dog leg. Which won`t happen.
tonythetigerasn
Member
But, to be fair, MK has quite a short list of rides compared to Disneyland's roster. Let's take a look at E-tickets alone.
With Space down, the only major, line-drawing E-tickets left in the Magic Kingdom will be BTMR and Splash. That will be a heck of a lot of congestion in one very small area of the MK. In Disneyland, not only are more crowd-drawers open, they are also more spread out.
Even if you include all other official E-tickets in the count, let's look at Disneyland versus MK.
Disneyland: Indiana Jones, Jungle Cruise, Pirates, HM, Splash, BTMR, Matterhorn, Submarines, Space Mountain, and Star Tours.
MK: Pirates, Jungle Cruise, BTMR, Splash, Space Mountains, HM.
The list is 10 to 6. A trip to WDW with 2 or 3 of those major E-tickets closed severely reroutes traffic in the MK, especially one as popular as SM.
I'm all for the Space Mountain rehab, but I think it's fair to say it will have a significantly bigger impact on MK than it did on DL.
the-reason14
Well-Known Member
MK has the most E tickets. And when I think of E tickets, I think of rides like Potc, HM, Space, Splash, and Thunder mt. Not to mention Iasw, among other MK attractions. I think an e ticket is either a thrill ride, like Dinosaur, Everest, Tot, Space, and so on, or its a long immersive slow dark ride of some sort like SSE, Potc, HM.
I know at MK, people go in many different ways. Some may sprint to HM and Potc at opening, others may head to fantasyland. MK has the most rides, and while the mountains are what I would say are the biggest attracters to the park, there are many other rides and stuff that can distract from them at mk around opening. This is very different for mgm and AK as the only rides they have that people run to in the morning are either E:E, Kali, Dino, Safari, or for mgm, TSM, ToT, and RRc.
I know at MK, people go in many different ways. Some may sprint to HM and Potc at opening, others may head to fantasyland. MK has the most rides, and while the mountains are what I would say are the biggest attracters to the park, there are many other rides and stuff that can distract from them at mk around opening. This is very different for mgm and AK as the only rides they have that people run to in the morning are either E:E, Kali, Dino, Safari, or for mgm, TSM, ToT, and RRc.
jmvd20
Well-Known Member
Nope, they did not tell me all the details of the upcoming refurb. However, I do pay the bills by managing commercial construction projects, some small, some very large. One of the things I am responsible for is safety - for everyone on site at all times and I do not take that responsibility lightly.
While I will admit that there are many things I do not know about the specifics of the upcoming refurb the thing that I am certain of is this:
There is no logical or cost effective reason to keep the TTA open if passengers will be underneath an active construction site.
Figment1986
Well-Known Member
it wouldnt be that bad to rehab TTA during the times when it would be un safe to allow public in the done, like demolition (allowing them an extra shift to take it apart than if the TTA was running) and when they are installing certain aspects that would require similar circumstances... This would replace all the old speakers, fix the broken coverings on the LSMs, and update other aspects of the attraction.
Rob562
Well-Known Member
Just to point out, Space Mountain does not have its closure officially listed either...
I'm a little confused about what you're referring to about the train... I don't believe the track wasn't installed in the Mountain until after the outside structure was built. So obviously they CAN get a crane to all interior areas that they'd need to.
There was discussion/speculation a few months about whether they could remove a couple panels from the Mountain's sloped roof for access. While there's no indication that this is how the construction will happen, I think it was decided that removing a couple of adjacent panels would be difficult but not impossible.
There's also the matter of budget... The construction will be *inside* a closed building... Why would they go to the expense of only having a construction crew working on the track during the expensive overnight shifts just so they can run the TTA during the day? They actually CAN have heavy construction going on during the daytime without bothering the Guests in the park?
-Rob