TrainsOfDisney
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Don’t go all bright suns on me!
Why is Arial greetings guests as a mermaid when she sacrificed her fathers kingdom to become human and then asked to remain human?
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Why is Arial greetings guests as a mermaid when she sacrificed her fathers kingdom to become human and then asked to remain human?
corran horn
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Why is the Beast still a Beast?
MichRX7
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I will take Magic Kingdom 1973 for the win. Which, if I remember right, is about the time they pulled the plywood off the sides of the PeopleMover. Honestly, I would rather have a re-do of 20k Leagues over Tron. I understand why they feel they need to build it, but it doesn't mean I have to agree they couldn't have done something else with better story telling. If I want thrills I'll take the family to Cedar Point. If I want total immersion and a "best experience money can buy" getaway, Cedar Point will not be the choice. Maybe I'll push it back to 1975, because I did love the original Space Mountain. I miss me some Mr Toad's Wild Ride and If you Had Wings.
Of course, the kids and grandkids would argue this point with me.
Of course, the kids and grandkids would argue this point with me.
DoleWhipDrea
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I don't know much about cost, but logistically WDI wouldn't be able to actually build all of those attractions as they are in Disneyland. They fit into a very tight space and share buildings with each other, and they're grandfathered to be exempt from certain safety regulations. So if WDI wanted to build versions in MK, they would have significantly larger footprints. I wouldn't mind seeing the circus area (excluding Dumbo) going away in favor of at least one really nice dark ride, and doing a proper full facade makeover to the parts of the land that still retain the old tent look, and give them the DL/DLP FL look. Then perhaps they could create a better transition between FL and TL. Barnstormer could be sent to one of the other parks that could desperately use another attraction to round out their roster.
If anything, it would be nice if the Tomorrowland Speedway cars could get their engines replaced with something more environmentally friendly...and less smelly. Part of me feels like WDI is purposefully neglecting the attraction to get rid of it in the near future, but to be replaced by what?
Tomorrowland needs a lot of love, and while TRON will help, it won't magically fix all of those problems. It's really unfortunate that right after the new entrance sign to Tomorrowland you have closed attractions on both sides of the land (neither of them were great, and when I saw them IRL for the first time in 2017, I felt like I was in a tacky strip mall.) Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor is probably meant to re-open when things are mostly back to normal, but it's not great, and it doesn't fit the land at all. Buzz looks completely run down and is a far cry from the versions that came after it.
I have heard that Merchant of Venus is permanently closed, which gives me some hope that we will see something new in the former Stitch building (which may have room to stretch out further if the shop is gutted?)...but who knows when that will happen. I do wonder if that rumored thrown-together 50th attraction is still being talked about for that spot.
owlsandcoffee
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Yes, MoV is permanently closed. I saw some low-quality rumors that Stitch would be replaced by Wreck-it-Ralph and the store would be a meet-n-greet or something. It is my sincere hope that this does NOT happen.
DoleWhipDrea
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I think WIR got nixed before COVID (per insiders on this forum.) I will be very annoyed if another attraction is replaced by a M&G, but it sounds like something current management would do
owlsandcoffee
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I think WIR got nixed before COVID (per insiders on this forum.) I will be very annoyed if another attraction is replaced by a M&G, but it sounds like something current management would do
I haven't ridden ANY of the iterations (went to WDW in 2004, between AE and Stitch) but I honestly think Alien Encounter was the best attraction to ever be in that space.
It seems to me that the general concept of "space travel" has always been the core of that space. WiR would be bonkers. I'd like to see a new, kid-friendly 4D show where you travel to space (like Mission to Mars but, you know, interesting). Space travel has been back in the public consciousness lately. I think people actually would be interested in it.
Fun fact, I'm pretty sure Timekeeper was ALSO down that day, and the GMR was down when we went to MGM Studios. I didn't really ride a lot of rides when I was there lol.
Bocabear
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Pooh should just go away... Put a new version of the classic Snow White dark ride there...where it would relate to the mine across the Esplanade. Pinocchio Dark Ride should be copied from Disneyland and move into the Peter Pan's Flight location. Circus tents should go away along with the kiddie splash zone and the entire area should become Neverland. A new expanded double tracked PPF, Pirate Ship where the splash pad is, add a Tinkerbell overlay to the rollercoaster there and a meet and greet pixie Hollow and I think it would be just about perfect.
Bocabear
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I agree it should be there...and it is a charming ride... People love the dark rides... a shame that WDW is missing a good version of Pooh, Mr Toad's Wild Ride, Alice In Wonderland, Snow White, and Pinocchio. Adding 4 Family Friendly dark rides, and maybe a new build expanded Peter Pan's Flight would make for the BEST Fantasyland worldwide.
lazyboy97o
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Small dark rides are still built today. Look at the Legoland Discovery Centers that are built into existing malls.
Sharing buildings is not a problem. Poor design of the Pandora show building doesn’t make it a problem. Again, see the Legoland Discovery Centers.
Grandfathering is not a blanket permanent exemption. Some regulations have no exemptions and must be implemented. Others have different triggers. Outside of certain exemptions regarding cost, history and structural viability new work generally must conform to current standards. All of the changes to make Snow White’s Enchanted Wish had to conform to contemporary codes.
Sure, the exact ride layouts and access may require adjustment but it should not require a significant increase in size.
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uncle jimmy
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Hasn't expanding MK out thru FL and the circus area been fans dream for years, going over the service road like DL?
Is there any truth to WDI ever looking into expanding that way?
CastAStone
5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
Bocabear
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not true. They were always busy, though not the crowd level of PPF. They were also removed prior to MK seeing the crowds it has today
There was a time when the Haunted Mansion never had a line longer than 10 minutes...
Crowd popularity as always subjective...A couple years it might be the most popular, then slip out of favor only to become popular again.
doctornick
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I think it’s stupid that they didn’t put Pinocchio into the circus area. Would have added a much needed ride to there and would have fit that theme. I know it wasn’t on the table but seems like a no brainer to me.
edit: I like Philharmagic though. I know DL lost their correspond show but I’d rather keep it around and add rides elsewhere- plenty of room in MK
UNCgolf
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They would be if they existed in the park now. Just look at Peter Pan's Flight.
They likely wouldn't be quite as busy as it is (I think back in the 90s their wait times were a bit less), but they'd be churning through guests regularly and are exactly what the MK needs for more capacity.
yensidtlaw1969
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Stooooooop I would *LOVE* that . . .
EDITED To Add: In case anyone reads this with any hint of sarcasm, I really, really mean it.
yensidtlaw1969
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I still wish an updated Snow White Dark Ride had been built underneath the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train, with the attractions weaving through each other - the Dark Ride could focus more on Snow and the Queen, the Mine Train more on the Dwarfs, and they could share a show scene in the Mine where the different vehicles are visible to each other, adding another layer to each experience and giving children too short for the Mine Train a peek into the it from the Dark Ride. Sort of like how the People Mover offers a glimpse at Space Mountain. Then the rides could again go their separate ways and have their individual finales.
Seeing what they just did at Snow White in Disneyland makes me wish more than ever we could have had something like that tucked away under the Mine Train hillside, showing the other sides of the Snow White story.
mattpeto
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That's a pretty awesome idea.