News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

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J4546

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Lockers look good! Can't wait for this to open, how nice it will be to have a major new ride, cool kinetic ambience and lighting especially at night, redone store, new bathrooms (always a plus imo) and of course reopening the pathway
 
_caleb

_caleb

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Disney Glimpses said:
Eh, they have done bone headed stuff forever. I could think of 1,000 horrible decisions made in the 90s, 00s. I think the biggest difference today is that the company doesn't do anything unless it can prove ROI on some spreadsheet or PowerPoint presentation.

The old Disney did stuff because it was cool, because it was challenging and difficult to replicate. So it's not so much that they are doing things wrong, it's that they are losing the creativity that made them so special in the first place. Seeing glimmers of that returning though :)
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Disney has always been boundless creativity (Walt) limited by business realities (Roy). That has not changed. The pendulum does seem to swing to the creative side (during times of plenty) to the constrained (during lean/uncertain times).

I'm ready for the pendulum to swing back!
 
GhostHost1000

GhostHost1000

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_caleb said:
You don't think it's awesome, amazing, magical, and perfect, but you're still THIS invested?

You'd never know it reading your posts.

Sounds like you're in that "curmudgeon" category of fan: everything used to be awesome, now nothing is awesome.

It makes me sad that you view things through this lens. Hoping someday they do something that turns things around for you. Maybe more double-sided lockers like TRON's will do the trick!
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If nothing was awesome I wouldn’t be on here, sell my dvc, not renew annual passes every year, and keep going. Just because my opinion on some of what Disney is doing and has done over the years is not all positive doesn’t mean I’m wrong

I give credit where credit is due but without pixie dust on my glasses
 
orky8

orky8

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_caleb said:
Disney has always been boundless creativity (Walt) limited by business realities (Roy). That has not changed. The pendulum does seem to swing to the creative side (during times of plenty) to the constrained (during lean/uncertain times).

I'm ready for the pendulum to swing back!
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Yes, but we just came out of a time of plenty and Disney milked the park cows for everything it could to spend the money on Disney+. Looks like we are now headed into a lean/uncertain time, so when exactly do you think this pendulum is going to swing back?
 
_caleb

_caleb

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orky8 said:
Yes, but we just came out of a time of plenty and Disney milked the park cows for everything it could to spend the money on Disney+. Looks like we are now headed into a lean/uncertain time, so when exactly do you think this pendulum is going to swing back?
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Hmm. Good point. I don't know... eventually?
 
solidyne

solidyne

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celluloid said:
It will be interesting to see if this is Disney's first metal detector ride.
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Magical.
_caleb said:
Disney has always been boundless creativity (Walt) limited by business realities (Roy). That has not changed. The pendulum does seem to swing to the creative side (during times of plenty) to the constrained (during lean/uncertain times).

I'm ready for the pendulum to swing back!
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It's not a pendulum. It's a wrecking ball.
 
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celluloid

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GhostHost1000 said:
If nothing was awesome I wouldn’t be on here, sell my dvc, not renew annual passes every year, and keep going. Just because my opinion on some of what Disney is doing and has done over the years is not all positive doesn’t mean I’m wrong

I give credit where credit is due but without pixie dust on my glasses
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Finding things objectively, or even subjectively bad does not mean you are negative as a person. Most here understand what you mean.
 
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doctornick

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MisterPenguin said:
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So, at Universal, they have a central area where you scan your ticket for each section of lockers. So you only have to remember the general area, not the specific locker number. This makes it seems like you are scanning the locker itself. Presumably available ones with be lit up green or something to indicate they are free.

That being said, there appears to be some sort of console to use next to the lockers so maybe it’s an either/or and you can use that spot or directly on the locker.
 
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celluloid

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doctornick said:
So, at Universal, they have a central area where you scan your ticket for each section of lockers. So you only have to remember the general area, not the specific locker number. This makes it seems like you are scanning the locker itself. Presumably available ones with be lit up green or something to indicate they are free.

That being said, there appears to be some sort of console to use next to the lockers so maybe it’s an either/or and you can use that spot or directly on the locker.
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MDE could so show your locker number. That is messier and one more MDE required thing but would be something.
 
Casper Gutman

Casper Gutman

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_caleb said:
Disney has always been boundless creativity (Walt) limited by business realities (Roy). That has not changed. The pendulum does seem to swing to the creative side (during times of plenty) to the constrained (during lean/uncertain times).

I'm ready for the pendulum to swing back!
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When has the pendulum swung in a positive direction since, say, 1998? Where are the major improvements that offset what has been lost? Off the top of my head… Pandora is better then Camp Minnie Mickey (but not, perhaps, better then Beastly Kingdom) and Everest is great. I think Dwarves and Pooh are nice and Mermaid is unfairly underrated, but it’s a lateral move from Toad, Snow White, and 20,000. I really love MMRR, but it should coexist with GMR. RotR is very good, if overpraised.

But…

The overall experience has declined to a degree unimaginable in the 90s. Capacity has deteriorated to a point that makes the parks, especially MK, a miserable slog. Reservations of all sorts rob any joyful spontaneity from the resort. Menus have shrunk, but that’s less of an issue since most restaurants need to be booked months in advance. EPCOT is a cruel shambles that is worse then it was 30 years ago in every significant respect. The MGM makeover was a cost-cut disappointment and TSL is garbage. Prices are larcenous. Hotels are significantly worse across the board. Service has declined. Entertainment has been slashed everywhere, and much of what remains hasn’t been updated since before Clinton was inaugurated. Festivals are lackluster non-events. There is no indication that Disney intends to fix any of this.

It’s not a pendulum if it only ever swings one way. What, precisely, is the source of optimism for the future? The parks have been broken at a deeply fundamental level for over a decade and a half - what actual evidence indicates that has changed?
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Casper Gutman said:
It’s not a pendulum if it only ever swings one way. What, precisely, is the source of optimism for the future? The parks have been broken at a deeply fundamental level for over a decade and a half - what actual evidence indicates that has changed?
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You’re apparently choosing to come to this negative conclusion which implies you’re supposed to just ignore it.
 
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lewisc

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fgmnt said:
If lockers are complimentary, i don’t think the pouches will last very long. capacity could get hairy if ops has to check if you still have large items on out when boarding + you have placed them in the pouch.
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An issue for guests who use MDE, cell phone, for ride photos. Some guests either don't use MB or are using old MB
 

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