News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

[celluloid]

Did it give you a static shock? The ONE time I tried to touch the tunnel ceiling I SWEAR I got a shock. Of course, no one believed me...

You may have, it's probably akin to a macdonalds. plastic/thin fiberglass slide, but I did not.

 

[Disney Analyst]

So is this like Velocicoaster? Double sided lockers? Or did they just turn the worklights on for the retrieval shot?

 

[SoFloMagic]

So then that building outside isn't lockers?

 

[Surferboy567]

Can we all just say how cool the lockers actually look. Identity Disc looking handles on the lockers accompanied with the normal blue TRON lights is definitely striking.

 

[GhostHost1000]

That's your opinion. And honestly, it's tiresome to read it stated over and over again. I think negativity is a choice, and you seem to make that choice all. Day. Long.

I recommend you look at some of the details of attractions–like the TRON-area background music, the area lighting package, or the aforementioned lockers–and see that it's not so rare that Disney does some things right.

Beyond TRON, I recommend you check out the MMRR discussion over on the Disneyland boards. The DL version of the attraction seems to be very promising, and people are actually saying so.

I’ve been around multiple Disney parks for over 35 years and know many inside the company. I see the trends and hear them too.

I’m a dvc member with multiple contracts, an annual passholder, and frequent visitor, so it’s not like I’m just reading news and being a meanie here.

I love Disney and the parks, always will, I wouldn’t be on here if I didn’t, but I also have my opinion because I have concern over direction, decisions, and trends. I used to think everything was awesome, amazing, magical, and perfect, until I realized it’s not.

 

[_caleb]

I’ve been around multiple Disney parks for over 35 years and know many inside the company. I see the trends and hear them too.

I’m a dvc member with multiple contracts, an annual passholder, and frequent visitor, so it’s not like I’m just reading news and being a meanie here.

You don't think it's awesome, amazing, magical, and perfect, but you're still THIS invested?

I love Disney and the parks, always will,

You'd never know it reading your posts.

I wouldn’t be on here if I didn’t, but I also have my opinion because I have concern over direction, decisions, and trends. I used to think everything was awesome, amazing, magical, and perfect, until I realized it’s not.

Sounds like you're in that "curmudgeon" category of fan: everything used to be awesome, now nothing is awesome.

It makes me sad that you view things through this lens. Hoping someday they do something that turns things around for you. Maybe more double-sided lockers like TRON's will do the trick!

 

[Disney Glimpses]

Feel free. It’s rare Disney does something right now adays so gotta give credit where appropriate. Again. Rare

Eh, they have done bone headed stuff forever. I could think of 1,000 horrible decisions made in the 90s, 00s. I think the biggest difference today is that the company doesn't do anything unless it can prove ROI on some spreadsheet or PowerPoint presentation.

The old Disney did stuff because it was cool, because it was challenging and difficult to replicate. So it's not so much that they are doing things wrong, it's that they are losing the creativity that made them so special in the first place. Seeing glimmers of that returning though

 

[J4546]

Lockers look good! Can't wait for this to open, how nice it will be to have a major new ride, cool kinetic ambience and lighting especially at night, redone store, new bathrooms (always a plus imo) and of course reopening the pathway

 

[James Alucobond]

So then that building outside isn't lockers?

No. Restrooms.

 

[_caleb]

Eh, they have done bone headed stuff forever. I could think of 1,000 horrible decisions made in the 90s, 00s. I think the biggest difference today is that the company doesn't do anything unless it can prove ROI on some spreadsheet or PowerPoint presentation.

The old Disney did stuff because it was cool, because it was challenging and difficult to replicate. So it's not so much that they are doing things wrong, it's that they are losing the creativity that made them so special in the first place. Seeing glimmers of that returning though

Disney has always been boundless creativity (Walt) limited by business realities (Roy). That has not changed. The pendulum does seem to swing to the creative side (during times of plenty) to the constrained (during lean/uncertain times).

I'm ready for the pendulum to swing back!

 

[GhostHost1000]

You don't think it's awesome, amazing, magical, and perfect, but you're still THIS invested?

You'd never know it reading your posts.

Sounds like you're in that "curmudgeon" category of fan: everything used to be awesome, now nothing is awesome.

It makes me sad that you view things through this lens. Hoping someday they do something that turns things around for you. Maybe more double-sided lockers like TRON's will do the trick!

If nothing was awesome I wouldn’t be on here, sell my dvc, not renew annual passes every year, and keep going. Just because my opinion on some of what Disney is doing and has done over the years is not all positive doesn’t mean I’m wrong

I give credit where credit is due but without pixie dust on my glasses

 

[Disney Glimpses]

Disney has always been boundless creativity (Walt) limited by business realities (Roy). That has not changed. The pendulum does seem to swing to the creative side (during times of plenty) to the constrained (during lean/uncertain times).

I'm ready for the pendulum to swing back!

So very true.

 

[orky8]

Disney has always been boundless creativity (Walt) limited by business realities (Roy). That has not changed. The pendulum does seem to swing to the creative side (during times of plenty) to the constrained (during lean/uncertain times).

I'm ready for the pendulum to swing back!

Yes, but we just came out of a time of plenty and Disney milked the park cows for everything it could to spend the money on Disney+. Looks like we are now headed into a lean/uncertain time, so when exactly do you think this pendulum is going to swing back?

 

[JoeCamel]

Yes, but we just came out of a time of plenty and Disney milked the park cows for everything it could to spend the money on Disney+. Looks like we are now headed into a lean/uncertain time, so when exactly do you think this pendulum is going to swing back?

As soon as the next truckload of dust arrives (magnet)

 

[_caleb]

Yes, but we just came out of a time of plenty and Disney milked the park cows for everything it could to spend the money on Disney+. Looks like we are now headed into a lean/uncertain time, so when exactly do you think this pendulum is going to swing back?

Hmm. Good point. I don't know... eventually?

 

[solidyne]

It will be interesting to see if this is Disney's first metal detector ride.

Magical.

Disney has always been boundless creativity (Walt) limited by business realities (Roy). That has not changed. The pendulum does seem to swing to the creative side (during times of plenty) to the constrained (during lean/uncertain times).

I'm ready for the pendulum to swing back!

It's not a pendulum. It's a wrecking ball.

 

[celluloid]

If nothing was awesome I wouldn’t be on here, sell my dvc, not renew annual passes every year, and keep going. Just because my opinion on some of what Disney is doing and has done over the years is not all positive doesn’t mean I’m wrong

I give credit where credit is due but without pixie dust on my glasses

Finding things objectively, or even subjectively bad does not mean you are negative as a person. Most here understand what you mean.

 

[doctornick]

So, at Universal, they have a central area where you scan your ticket for each section of lockers. So you only have to remember the general area, not the specific locker number. This makes it seems like you are scanning the locker itself. Presumably available ones with be lit up green or something to indicate they are free.

That being said, there appears to be some sort of console to use next to the lockers so maybe it’s an either/or and you can use that spot or directly on the locker.

 

[celluloid]

So, at Universal, they have a central area where you scan your ticket for each section of lockers. So you only have to remember the general area, not the specific locker number. This makes it seems like you are scanning the locker itself. Presumably available ones with be lit up green or something to indicate they are free.

That being said, there appears to be some sort of console to use next to the lockers so maybe it’s an either/or and you can use that spot or directly on the locker.

MDE could so show your locker number. That is messier and one more MDE required thing but would be something.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Disney has always been boundless creativity (Walt) limited by business realities (Roy). That has not changed. The pendulum does seem to swing to the creative side (during times of plenty) to the constrained (during lean/uncertain times).

I'm ready for the pendulum to swing back!

When has the pendulum swung in a positive direction since, say, 1998? Where are the major improvements that offset what has been lost? Off the top of my head… Pandora is better then Camp Minnie Mickey (but not, perhaps, better then Beastly Kingdom) and Everest is great. I think Dwarves and Pooh are nice and Mermaid is unfairly underrated, but it’s a lateral move from Toad, Snow White, and 20,000. I really love MMRR, but it should coexist with GMR. RotR is very good, if overpraised.

But…

The overall experience has declined to a degree unimaginable in the 90s. Capacity has deteriorated to a point that makes the parks, especially MK, a miserable slog. Reservations of all sorts rob any joyful spontaneity from the resort. Menus have shrunk, but that’s less of an issue since most restaurants need to be booked months in advance. EPCOT is a cruel shambles that is worse then it was 30 years ago in every significant respect. The MGM makeover was a cost-cut disappointment and TSL is garbage. Prices are larcenous. Hotels are significantly worse across the board. Service has declined. Entertainment has been slashed everywhere, and much of what remains hasn’t been updated since before Clinton was inaugurated. Festivals are lackluster non-events. There is no indication that Disney intends to fix any of this.

It’s not a pendulum if it only ever swings one way. What, precisely, is the source of optimism for the future? The parks have been broken at a deeply fundamental level for over a decade and a half - what actual evidence indicates that has changed?