News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

[UNCgolf]

How the hell has it shown this? Are you projecting your own opinion?

To be clear, I'm not suggesting the ride is a failure or anything close to that. It's doing just fine. But I'm also not projecting my own opinion; we have data available.

Anyone who wants to ride Guardians can ride it. ILLs are available for several hours (sometimes into the afternoon) and the afternoon VQ drop is usually available for 60+ minutes, and it's been that way essentially since the ride opened. Even the morning drop is sometimes available for several minutes. Rise, on the other hand, typically still sells out before the park even opens. Guardians' VQ stats aren't that different than Ratatouille's, and Ratatouille wasn't a major new E ticket showcasing one of their biggest IPs. There's just not much evidence to suggest people are rushing to ride it/desperate to do so.

It really shouldn't be surprising to anyone. Disney has a significant percentage (likely much more than other parks) of customers who either can't ride more intense coasters or just don't want to, so coasters (along with other kinds of more intense thrill rides) have a smaller customer base than other kinds of attractions.

 

[Dan Deesnee]

What are you talking about? The park reservations aren't gone. They're in place. And some days hit the maximum capacity.

I was there the beginning of December and this past mid-May... it was packed.

I meant gone as in no longer available that day.

Let's say MKs max capacity is 50k guests pre-covid. Then you implement a park reservation system that has a max guest limit of 25k. If you start hitting that limit ever day, you aren't "packed" simply because you hit that limit, you're just at the limit and only half full.

I was also there beginning of December and didn't feel like it was anywhere near as crowded as my previous December trips. Nor did it feel crowded any other time I was there last year or this year.

 

[No Name]

I am not projecting my own opinion; we have data available.

Anyone who wants to ride Guardians can ride it. ILLs are available for several hours (sometimes into the afternoon) and the afternoon VQ drop is usually available for 60+ minutes, and it's been that way essentially since the ride opened. Even the morning drop is sometimes available for several minutes. Rise, on the other hand, typically still sells out before the park even opens. Guardians' VQ stats aren't that different than Ratatouille's, and Ratatouille wasn't a major new E ticket showcasing one of their biggest IPs. There's just not much evidence to suggest people are rushing to ride it/desperate to do so.

None of this is suggesting that the ride is a failure -- it's doing just fine -- and it really shouldn't be surprising to anyone. Disney has a significant percentage (likely much more than other parks) of customers who either can't ride more intense coasters or just don't want to, so coasters (along with other kinds of more intense thrill rides) have a smaller customer base than other kinds of attractions.

They definitely have a smaller customer base than other attractions, though I bet if Rise of the Resistance could serve anywhere close to as many customers as Cosmic Rewind, we would see a very similar situation there. This is the highest-capacity ride built at the parks in my lifetime. Regardless, I guess I misunderstood “moving the needle” to mean more than demand.

 

[michaelmickey]

From the latest pictures and videos around the internet, as planned:

- ALL foundations for ALL the walls (plaza, tunnel, etc..) are done.
- End of the months should see wooden frame for the wall, concrete poured and dried.

After that the plaza is FI-NISH-ED!

- We can also see they started the pour the slab on the secondary walkway going towards Fantasyland.

- They finished the small lockers or toilets building which, at the end, is just... white panels.

I can see 2 long lines, slightly curved in the tunnel......... might be the rail track?
If someone can go take focus pictures! haha

August will def be about cosmetic works... as for the Tomorrowland Lights & Power building which is closing...

 

[lazyboy97o]

- End of the months should see wooden frame for the wall, concrete poured and dried.

Technical note, they’re called forms and concrete doesn’t dry, it cures.

 

[Unbanshee]

Has this one confirmed to have the traditional style seats like the one at Shanghai. My mom said she will ride it but as she put it "there is no way in h*** I am riding in that motorcycle seat."

Yes

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[G00fyDad]

I was told by a cast member that worked at the Polynesian….that there are plans to add a roller coaster a year to combat Epic Universe starting with the Guardians at Epcot and Tron would be next in line which would be next year…then 2024 would be a replacement for primerval whirl called the excavator…then 2025 would receive a retheme of Rock and Roller coaster to a Monsters inc Door coaster…and finally in 2026 would be some sort of coaster at Pandora…but he was unsure of the concept…just that it was earmarked…said he saw the plans in plain sight in the break room

Sorry, but you lost me right there.
Sounds a little fishy..

 

[ppete1975]

So youre telling the train should open soon?

This begs the question... how busy is the train going to be when it reopens and will they sell individual lightning lanes lol.

How ed would disney be if the train is more popular than tron

 

[trainplane3]

Forgot to toss these up. Not good pictures, was too focused on the new PM script (which is perfect in everyway).
From 2 days ago:

 

[Furiated]

Does anyone know how they will handle the demand for the traditional style seats? I imagine people will request it as they are assigned seats but I can see a scenario where a very, very long line forms.

I'm actually wondering about the opposite. Do they direct anyone/random people to the traditional seats, or are they just for people that request them. I want the bike seat 100% of the time. I'd be ed if I waited in line/snagged a boarding group/bought an ILL and was directed to one of the traditional style seats.

 

[danlb_2000]

From the latest pictures and videos around the internet, as planned:

- ALL foundations for ALL the walls (plaza, tunnel, etc..) are done.

Nope..

 

[MisterPenguin]

Technical note, they’re called forms and concrete doesn’t dry, it cures.

At least they didn't call it 'cement'!

 

[Disney Glimpses]

I'm actually wondering about the opposite. Do they direct anyone/random people to the traditional seats, or are they just for people that request them. I want the bike seat 100% of the time. I'd be ****ed if I waited in line/snagged a boarding group/bought an ILL and was directed to one of the traditional style seats.

Good question. I'm certain you can decline and they will just find someone behind you to take the regular seat. I think they will be in high demand though.

 

[UNCgolf]

They definitely have a smaller customer base than other attractions, though I bet if Rise of the Resistance could serve anywhere close to as many customers as Cosmic Rewind, we would see a very similar situation there. This is the highest-capacity ride built at the parks in my lifetime. Regardless, I guess I misunderstood “moving the needle” to mean more than demand.

It definitely has higher capacity than Rise, which helps, but I think it's actually less than Ratatouille. I don't think we'll see the kind of 3+ hour lines Flight of Passage routinely got either if it does go standby.

It's also admittedly hard to compare VQ to standby, because there are people who will grab a VQ since it means they won't have to wait in line but might balk at waiting even 45 minutes in a standby line. The presence of the VQ also skews the ILL purchase numbers, since there's not much reason to buy an ILL if you know you'll be able to get a free VQ spot unless you just really want to ride twice.

I imagine once they eliminate the VQ, the ILL spots will sell out much faster on Guardians.

 

[Disney Glimpses]

Cosmic Rewind can serve around 2,000 guests per hour. Rise and Tron are similar around 1,700, I believe. About the same as Splash Mountain. Rat Ride over 2,200 per hour.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Rat Ride

Shaggy: Hey, like, Scoob, what attraction do you wanna go on next?

Scooby-do: Ratride!

 

[James Alucobond]

It definitely has higher capacity than Rise, which helps, but I think it's actually less than Ratatouille. I don't think we'll see the kind of 3+ hour lines Flight of Passage routinely got either if it does go standby.

It's also admittedly hard to compare VQ to standby, because there are people who will grab a VQ since it means they won't have to wait in line but might balk at waiting even 45 minutes in a standby line. The presence of the VQ also skews the ILL purchase numbers, since there's not much reason to buy an ILL if you know you'll be able to get a free VQ spot unless you just really want to ride twice.

I imagine once they eliminate the VQ, the ILL spots will sell out much faster on Guardians.

I kind of wonder how being in an area so densely packed with experiences of a similar intensity will impact it. Probably doesn’t have much to do with the current VQ situation, but with Flight of Passage, if it’s full to bursting, it’s a long trek to anything else that might sate your desire for thrill. In the case of World Discovery, you can simultaneously evaluate three thrill options from one courtyard.

 

[Patcheslee]

I kind of wonder how being in an area so densely packed with experiences of a similar intensity will impact it. Probably doesn’t have much to do with the current VQ situation, but with Flight of Passage, if it’s full to bursting, it’s a long trek to anything else that might sate your desire for thrill. In the case of World Discovery, you can simultaneously evaluate three thrill options from one courtyard.

Just experience with Kings Island opening Orion, the coaster next to it has had increased popularity, both have the same height requirements. Space Mtn & Tron may have different height requirements, so smaller guests may have an option while taller guests are in line.

 

[TaeFace]

I was told by a cast member that worked at the Polynesian….that there are plans to add a roller coaster a year to combat Epic Universe starting with the Guardians at Epcot and Tron would be next in line which would be next year…then 2024 would be a replacement for primerval whirl called the excavator…then 2025 would receive a retheme of Rock and Roller coaster to a Monsters inc Door coaster…and finally in 2026 would be some sort of coaster at Pandora…but he was unsure of the concept…just that it was earmarked…said he saw the plans in plain sight in the break room

While I think those plans are possible (and super cool!) I think it's highly unlikely that an onstage Resort cast member would have seen anything related to imagineering in their break room. They may have heard something through the grapevine. While each park has an on-site imagineering trailer, it's entirely separate from where an onstage cast member would take their breaks. They also drill IP/asset security into our (cast members) heads on a constant basis. An imagineer would never be so careless as to leave that much valuable, unannounced info out in the open. Policy is to keep hard copies in a locked safe unless you're actively using them!

 

[correcaminos]

Good question. I'm certain you can decline and they will just find someone behind you to take the regular seat. I think they will be in high demand though.

That's a legit worry of mine. I fear I'll be bombing out on this ride because I won't be able to get a HA seat in a reasonable time frame. I can barely do FoP as it is. This one looks impossible without a traditional seat for me. Hope I'm wrong though.