News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

Vegas Disney Fan

Vegas Disney Fan

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TQQQ said:
I'd say "quit your %&tchin'"

SDMT opened 9 years ago in 2014 and is still the hardest ride to get on in MK and thats short

Its a new ride in MK that desperately needed one..........

It changes the entire atmosphere at night in tomorrowland (and even beyond)

Short? Yeah, but so what........

Leaves you wanting to go back for more
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While I agree, SDMT also highlights the problem with creating a ride with known problems like a short length, it’s 9 years later and one of its main descriptors is still “short”.

It highlights the problem at Disney right now, they know they can pick the inferior Imagineering design and people will still line up to ride it. Seven dwarfs was initially designed much longer but they shortened it to save money, the fact it’ll exist in the park for 50 years should have been reason enough to make it the best ride it could be but Disney puts budget over quality now.

Quality used to be priority #1, that is now budget, I’m not even sure quality is the #2 priority anymore, that seems to be inclusion… quality has fallen to third, that’s not good for the future of the parks.
 
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DCBaker

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If you missed getting a Magic Kingdom Park Reservation as an Annual Passholder for opening day of TRON, it appears more reservations are available for April 4th -

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SplashJacket

SplashJacket

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wdwmagic said:
Which you won't be able to do, because it will be one ride per day thanks to Virtual Queue and Lighting Lane ;)
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And how long would that VQ limitation be? A year? When the ride will have a lifespan of decades, possibly out-living most active users on this forum?

Tron’s main strength is it’s gorgeous night aesthetic and added kinetics.

I think Tron is a lot like Journey in Tokyo. Great ride, too short, beautiful exterior. There are some key differences, but to me, the ambiance around Tron is incredible. Despite my limited time in Shanghai, I spent an hour just chilling under the canopy one night enjoying the area. Tron’s influence on Tomorrowland as a whole will be much smaller, and therefore it’s ambiance impact will be diminished, but walking up to Tron, going under the canopy, especially at night, will be incredible.

Walking out of Epcot after illuminations, going past the foundation of nations, is a core memory for me. Peak Disney nostalgia. To me, Tron captures that same effect, just in a different way.

I’m really optimistic for all the lighting in Epcot’s hub, it could truly be gorgeous and feel it has the potential to mimic Tron, just differently. I always felt Tron belonged in Epcot more than Guardians, but I digress.

Describing the qualities of Tron is a nuanced affair. Tron itself, is a great ride, just super short, so it leaves you wanting more. That desire for more is a testament to the quality of what’s there, but it’s still a limitation. Guardian’s rotating vehicles are cooler than the bikes, but not an issue with motion-sickness. But similarly to a ride like Liberty Belle, so much of the attraction is not the ride itself. Just has such a cool factor. Very good ride and addition that makes Magic Kingdom substantially better, but by no means a game-changer.
 
Casper Gutman

Casper Gutman

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I know that when I think of what made Disney parks great, I think of seating position. Pirates? Imagination? Thunder? It’s all about that seating position. Even Universal’s best, most beloved ride, Spidey, has a really unique seating position. It’s a shame that Disney is building rides that a lot of people can’t ride, but as long as those rides make people sit in a slightly unusual way, it’s all worth it. Man, if you make that seating position unconventional enough, all you have to do is move the vehicles into a dark empty warehouse for a few seconds - folks will love it!
 
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gorillaball

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AEfx said:
Just watch the video Disney posted.

The video is 50 seconds long, and it starts part way through the mid-launch and it is coming to it's final stop as the video ends.

So yes, the actual "I'm on a roller coaster" part is around 40 seconds long if you are counting actual "coasting" time.
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Yes it's short but let's not manipulate realities to prove our point.

Should we say Tower of Terror is a 45 second ride because I choose to not start my timer until first drop and stop it immediately after last drop?
 
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gorillaball

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Casper Gutman said:
I know that when I think of what made Disney parks great, I think of seating position. Pirates? Imagination? Thunder? It’s all about that seating position. Even Universal’s best, most beloved ride, Spidey, has a really unique seating position. It’s a shame that Disney is building rides that a lot of people can’t ride, but as long as those rides make people sit in a slightly unusual way, it’s all worth it. Man, if you make that seating position unconventional enough, all you have to do is move the vehicles into a dark empty warehouse for a few seconds - folks will love it!
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What's your definition of "A lot of people can't ride"? 100% of people under 4' and 1% of people over?
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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gorillaball said:
Yes it's short but let's not manipulate realities to prove our point.

Should we say Tower of Terror is a 45 second ride because I choose to not start my timer until first drop and stop it immediately after last drop?
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I don't think that's a fair comparison, since Tower of Terror has other stuff going on beyond the drops. It's not like TRON has show scenes that people are discounting -- e.g., if someone just excised the whole mine scene from 7DMT to arbitrarily call it shorter.

I agree that the ride time is from when the vehicle leaves boarding to when it stops to disembark, and thus TRON is longer than 60 seconds, but they could have done so much more to make it a better overall experience.
 
SplashJacket

SplashJacket

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Casper Gutman said:
I know that when I think of what made Disney parks great, I think of seating position. Pirates? Imagination? Thunder? It’s all about that seating position. Even Universal’s best, most beloved ride, Spidey, has a really unique seating position. It’s a shame that Disney is building rides that a lot of people can’t ride, but as long as those rides make people sit in a slightly unusual way, it’s all worth it. Man, if you make that seating position unconventional enough, all you have to do is move the vehicles into a dark empty warehouse for a few seconds - folks will love it!
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Hilarious.

Tron’s vehicles won’t be restrictive to 95% of people who enter the gates of the Magic Kingdom, and for those it does restrict, it has an alternative.

I realize you’re trying to diminish the effect of vehicle configuration, but FoP would be aggressively mediocre if it was in a traditional seating cabin like Star Tours.

Most big coaster parks try to have at least one inverted coaster, another suspended coaster, a stand-up coaster (at least in the past and potentially again in the future if B&M’s surf-coaster is successful).

Haunted Mansion being a ride instead of a walk-through like originally envisioned drastically alters how we interact with the theming.

Forbidden Journey in Universal, a masterpiece of its time, utilizes a seating situation with walls extending deep into your view, to limit what you can and cannot see. Forbidden Journey would be drastically different if it was an open-view vehicle (like Classic Monster’s headlining Kooka attraction will be)

Hagrid’s is a great ride regardless if you have the motorbike or side-car, but it’s easily twice as good on the motorbike.

You’re falsely acting like Tron’s only positive is its vehicle.

Hagrid’s motorbike would be even better if it had Tron’s motorbike instead.

Your entire statement is a textbook straw-man
 
Andrew C

Andrew C

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UNCgolf said:
I don't think that's a fair comparison, since Tower of Terror has other stuff going on beyond the drops. It's not like TRON has show scenes that people are discounting -- e.g., if someone just excised the whole mine scene from 7DMT to arbitrarily call it shorter.
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Better comparison is another launch coaster, RnRc, and it is in line with that time wise.
UNCgolf said:
but they could have done so much more to make it a better overall experience
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It is the same point that has been made since it opened in Shanghai years ago.
 

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