News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

[ToTBellHop]

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Not far off. Remember how you'd have the two pictures and have to spot the DIFFERENCES? I'll be like, "oh, there would be AA heads over there in the DL version!" or "in Disneyland, that skull used to be a REAL skull!" or "in Disneyland, someone threw me a dinner roll right here!" or "in Disneyland, this was about 10 minutes longer and longer is always better!" or "in France, this would be in French!" or "do they even have this ride in Tokyo? No one ever mentions it."

 

[Bocabear]

The Disneyland version with it's two drops, Skeleton caves, Blue Bayou prologue all add up to a much more engaging experience... Having grown up going to WDW, I was blown away by my first ride on the Anaheim version... Why didn't they build the same length attraction? And it would have been amazing in the 70s to have had a Blue Bayou type indoor restaurant...or themed more appropriately to Blue Lagoon like the Paris version. The other thing that is not mentioned is the Shanghai has an EXTENSIVE Pirates LAND surrounding the ride...Restaurants, Theater and show, Ships pulled up in a harbor with a coast littered with old shipwrecks... This all adds to the experience. While WDW has more of a Pirates area than Anaheim, it pales in comparison to Shanghai and Paris.

 

[orky8]

WDW pirates is literally exactly the same as DL’s with a few missing scenes and features. Also the order in which they occur may be a little different. Other than that this whole debate is completely overblown.

Personally I would love for the Shanghai’s pirates ride system to show up here in a new ride.

In my opinion this a non topic because this isn’t the POTC thread and should be about the upcoming Tron attraction.

So, not literally exactly the same?

 

[doctornick]

WDW pirates is literally exactly the same as DL’s with a few missing scenes and features. Also the order in which they occur may be a little different. Other than that this whole debate is completely overblown.

While I disagree with your phrasing, I actually tend to agree with your basic point. DL's POTC is certainly superior to MK but the difference is not nearly as big as many people often suggest. The big difference in ride length is mostly filler for DL especially in the beginning of the ride - where MK has the superior queue which serves the role of setting the scene and ambiance that the early part of the ride does in DL. The key scenes of the ride all all present in MK except the shootout as is of course the iconic music.

Blue Bayou is cool that is exists but that really enhances the restaurant experience more than the ride. I never hear anyone talk about how awesome it is that you pass a restaurant when riding Gran Fiesta Tour (for example) because it's a cute quirk when on the ride not some seminal quality.

 

[Californian Elitist]

While I disagree with your phrasing, I actually tend to agree with your basic point. DL's POTC is certainly superior to MK but the difference is not nearly as big as many people often suggest. The big difference in ride length is mostly filler for DL especially in the beginning of the ride - where MK has the superior queue which serves the role of setting the scene and ambiance that the early part of the ride does in DL. The key scenes of the ride all all present in MK except the shootout as is of course the iconic music.

Blue Bayou is cool that is exists but that really enhances the restaurant experience more than the ride. I never hear anyone talk about how awesome it is that you pass a restaurant when riding Gran Fiesta Tour (for example) because it's a cute quirk when on the ride not some seminal quality.

The extra scenes in DL’s Pirates aren’t “filler.” The cave scenes are there to show the aftermath of piracy: dying with essentially nothing. MK’s queue doesn’t do an equal job of setting up the “prelude.”

 

[lazyboy97o]

The extra scenes in DL’s Pirates aren’t “filler.” The cave scenes are there to show the aftermath of piracy: dying with essentially nothing. MK’s queue doesn’t do an equal job of setting up the “prelude.”

No, they are filler. It’s filler that turned out really great but those scenes were considered filler. That’s why they were cut from the ride in Florida and elements incorporated into the queue. At the time, the Magic Kingdom ride was not viewed as the shorter version, it was the improved, more focused version that didn’t waste a bunch of time getting to the actual ride.

 

[Movielover]

No, they are filler. It’s filler that turned out really great but those scenes were considered filler. That’s why they were cut from the ride in Florida and elements incorporated into the queue. At the time, the Magic Kingdom ride was not viewed as the shorter version, it was the improved, more focused version that didn’t waste a bunch of time getting to the actual ride.

Also not having to wrap around a whole restaurant helps, although IMO not having the Blue Bayou takes away some of the great atmosphere of DL.

 

[Californian Elitist]

No, they are filler. It’s filler that turned out really great but those scenes were considered filler. That’s why they were cut from the ride in Florida and elements incorporated into the queue. At the time, the Magic Kingdom ride was not viewed as the shorter version, it was the improved, more focused version that didn’t waste a bunch of time getting to the actual ride.

They’re not filler now. They could have been filled for MK, but they’re not for DL.

 

[TQQQ]

Disney announces opening of Tron!

 

[JoeCamel]

Disney announces opening of Tron!

Sometime maybe.....

 

[TQQQ]

Sometime maybe.....

Just trying to get back on topic..........Anyone there today that can send updated pictures?

 

[Disney Analyst]

They’re not filler now. They could have been filled for MK, but they’re not for DL.

While that section of the ride really only existed at Disneyland to get you from the park to the show building, I have to agree and argue, they are not filler. It's placemaking, story building, an overture, a mystery. They took something that was necessary, and helped it build the story, the lore. That's something I love about Disneyland in general, they took the space they had, which resulted in very unique ways of creating rides.

That first segment of a quiet star lit bayou, into two drops, and the caverns really was the WOW for me when I first rode. You build into the epic reveal of the pirate ship, and AA filled scenes. Then you add Disneyland has a better ending sequence, and up the waterfall to exit.

Magic Kingdom's version was a bitter disappointment the first time I rode. Yes it's still the general ride, you get the main sequences... but it didn't scratch the POTC itch I had.

 

[orky8]

Disney announces opening of Tron!

Old news. Next year. Sometime. Maybe Spring though in an undefined way.

 

[TalkToEthan]

DL's POTC is certainly superior to MK but the difference is not nearly as big as many people often suggest. The big difference in ride length is mostly filler for DL especially in the beginning of the ride -

And here I thought people, especially around here since this place is WDW centric, under report the differences.

I would say the difference between WDW and Dl Pirates is even bigger than the differences among Mummy ride Orlando vs Hollywood’s version.

And what you call Dl Pirate filler I say is the very best part of the attraction: floating along the bayou passing the Cajun huts and banjo playing and making our way to a brick lined watery corridor and greeted with the coolest Disney moment ever: talking skull.

Ok 3rd greatest Disney moment on Earth but you get the point anyway.

 

[TQQQ]

Disney announces opening of Tron!

 

[lazyboy97o]

They’re not filler now. They could have been filled for MK, but they’re not for DL.

They were considered filler at Disneyland. That’s why the scenes were not built. That’s how the scenes were viewed. That’s not how they are viewed now, but at the time it is how people like Marc Davis viewed them.

 

[Californian Elitist]

They were considered filler at Disneyland. That’s why the scenes were not built. That’s how the scenes were viewed. That’s not how they are viewed now, but at the time it is how people like Marc Davis viewed them.

Right, this is what I was getting at. They were initially considered filler, but they’re not filler now.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Disney announces opening of Tron!

Did they actually announce a date?

 

[_caleb]

They were considered filler at Disneyland. That’s why the scenes were not built. That’s how the scenes were viewed. That’s not how they are viewed now, but at the time it is how people like Marc Davis viewed them.

This seems to be true of everything in the original design of MK. They looked at Disneyland and asked, "how can we cut filler, add capacity/throughput, and increase the size to take advantage of the space?"

But in some cases, what they cut as "filler" was not just filler, but key to making things special.

With TRON, I'm wondering if they might have done something similar by making small changes (compared to SDL) they thought would not be of any consequence.

 

[TQQQ]

Did they actually announce a date?

Nah....trying to get back on topic