News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

[RSoxNo1]

Anyone know the estimated cost to build TRON?

Seems like between $350-450

News - Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

Any reasonable reason why these 2 projects are so expensive? Or is it just Disney being Disney? The canopy for TRON ate up a huge chunk of the original’ budget. Even then, it’s a lot of Disney being Disney.

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[LieutLaww]

wow that's cheap for Disney !

 

[larryz]

Seems like between $350-450

Millions or billions?

 

[UpAllNight]

There is not a chance in high hell a coaster like Tron should cost this much.

It's a launched Vekoma with some screens, where the R&D has already been paid for, for heck sake. There's some serious fudging of accounting figures going on.

 

[bpiper]

There is not a chance in high hell a coaster like Tron should cost this much.

It's a launched Vekoma with some screens, where the R&D has already been paid for, for heck sake. There's some serious fudging of accounting figures going on.

I suspect that a Significant amount went into that large building. With the size of that building, the wind loads on it would be tremendous during a hurricane. The normal outer columns would have to be significantly larger. They not only have to hold the vertical weight of the building but have to handle the lateral forces of the wind. Think large steel I beam used for a floor turned vertical. That a lot more money. Then you have to have all the lateral cross bracing to keep the building from racking (twisting in the wind.) Don't forget the concrete slab. I remembered Disney doing a time lapse video of the continuous pour of the concrete floor for the guardians building.

That foundation pour took 17 hours, with the help of 300 workers, and included 80 miles of rebar, 960 truckloads or 9260 cubic yards of concrete, and covered 72000 sq ft.
Just the cost of that concrete alone never mind the rebar would be over a million dollars. That's over 3 feet of concrete thick. To support all that weight, you would have to drive a lot of friction piles into the ground. That isn't cheep either.

 

[UpAllNight]

I suspect that a Significant amount went into that large building. With the size of that building, the wind loads on it would be tremendous during a hurricane. The normal outer columns would have to be significantly larger. They not only have to hold the vertical weight of the building but have to handle the lateral forces of the wind. Think large steel I beam used for a floor turned vertical. That a lot more money. Then you have to have all the lateral cross bracing to keep the building from racking (twisting in the wind.) Don't forget the concrete slab. I remembered Disney doing a time lapse video of the continuous pour of the concrete floor for the guardians building.

That foundation pour took 17 hours, with the help of 300 workers, and included 80 miles of rebar, 960 truckloads or 9260 cubic yards of concrete, and covered 72000 sq ft.
Just the cost of that concrete alone never mind the rebar would be over a million dollars. That's over 3 feet of concrete thick. To support all that weight, you would have to drive a lot of friction piles into the ground. That isn't cheep either.

Fair points...but $350million?

 

[JoeCamel]

I suspect that a Significant amount went into that large building. With the size of that building, the wind loads on it would be tremendous during a hurricane. The normal outer columns would have to be significantly larger. They not only have to hold the vertical weight of the building but have to handle the lateral forces of the wind. Think large steel I beam used for a floor turned vertical. That a lot more money. Then you have to have all the lateral cross bracing to keep the building from racking (twisting in the wind.) Don't forget the concrete slab. I remembered Disney doing a time lapse video of the continuous pour of the concrete floor for the guardians building.

That foundation pour took 17 hours, with the help of 300 workers, and included 80 miles of rebar, 960 truckloads or 9260 cubic yards of concrete, and covered 72000 sq ft.
Just the cost of that concrete alone never mind the rebar would be over a million dollars. That's over 3 feet of concrete thick. To support all that weight, you would have to drive a lot of friction piles into the ground. That isn't cheep either.

Not as much as they spent. It is obscene to spend that much on a single ride that not everyone will be able to get on at the expense of other possible uses for it

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I suspect that a Significant amount went into that large building. With the size of that building, the wind loads on it would be tremendous during a hurricane. The normal outer columns would have to be significantly larger. They not only have to hold the vertical weight of the building but have to handle the lateral forces of the wind. Think large steel I beam used for a floor turned vertical. That a lot more money. Then you have to have all the lateral cross bracing to keep the building from racking (twisting in the wind.) Don't forget the concrete slab. I remembered Disney doing a time lapse video of the continuous pour of the concrete floor for the guardians building.

That foundation pour took 17 hours, with the help of 300 workers, and included 80 miles of rebar, 960 truckloads or 9260 cubic yards of concrete, and covered 72000 sq ft.
Just the cost of that concrete alone never mind the rebar would be over a million dollars. That's over 3 feet of concrete thick. To support all that weight, you would have to drive a lot of friction piles into the ground. That isn't cheep either.

How much did it cost to built the building for Trasnformers?

 

[lazyboy97o]

I suspect that a Significant amount went into that large building. With the size of that building, the wind loads on it would be tremendous during a hurricane. The normal outer columns would have to be significantly larger. They not only have to hold the vertical weight of the building but have to handle the lateral forces of the wind. Think large steel I beam used for a floor turned vertical. That a lot more money. Then you have to have all the lateral cross bracing to keep the building from racking (twisting in the wind.) Don't forget the concrete slab. I remembered Disney doing a time lapse video of the continuous pour of the concrete floor for the guardians building.

That foundation pour took 17 hours, with the help of 300 workers, and included 80 miles of rebar, 960 truckloads or 9260 cubic yards of concrete, and covered 72000 sq ft.
Just the cost of that concrete alone never mind the rebar would be over a million dollars. That's over 3 feet of concrete thick. To support all that weight, you would have to drive a lot of friction piles into the ground. That isn't cheep either.

The winds loads are not different than other buildings in Florida. There are plenty of steel structures around the area. Even being a Risk Category III only pushes the ultimate wind load requirement up an additional 10 mph, well within safety factors for Risk Category II structures.

Floor slabs are not 3’ thick. They’re mats slabs and going to be in the range of 6” thick. The foundations for the columns are separate from the slab. The single pour at Guardians was also a bit of a flex, it’s more than possible to do multiple pours and tie everything together.

The whole building is similar to a warehouse. It’s not that crazy.

 

[RSoxNo1]

It's safe to say that Disney's costs are at least 2x what they should be.

 

[ToTBellHop]

It's safe to say that Disney's costs are at least 2x what they should be.

Thankfully, the t-shirts and Mickey pretzels also cost at least 2x what they should. So everything checks out.

 

[CntrlFlPete]

couple of photos

 

[JoeCamel]

Mmmm, new wall does not really align with tunnel wall. Looks like they will use earth to sink the tunnel and reduce the noise of the train.
I wonder why they would be building the formed wall higher?
Oh, seems they have a large hole in the train path?

 

[No Name]

Seems like between $350-450

News - Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

Any reasonable reason why these 2 projects are so expensive? Or is it just Disney being Disney? The canopy for TRON ate up a huge chunk of the original’ budget. Even then, it’s a lot of Disney being Disney.

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That looks like it’s referring to Cosmic Rewind. There was some confusion over the price of the Tron coaster and this is the latest I’ve heard: https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads...irmed-for-epcot.929265/page-902#post-10182406

 

[MisterPenguin]

Thankfully, the t-shirts and Mickey pretzels also cost at least 2x what they should. So everything checks out.

Nature is healing...

 

[jerseygirl29]

It seems construction has once again slowed down. I have officially given up hope this will be done by November.

 

[mysto]

Oh, seems they have a large hole in the train path?

That does not look good. Sinkhole? They found treasure?

 

[JoeCamel]

That does not look good. Sinkhole? They found treasure?

They conveniently built a wall on top of the hole....

 

[RSoxNo1]

That looks like it’s referring to Cosmic Rewind. There was some confusion over the price of the Tron coaster and this is the latest I’ve heard: https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads...irmed-for-epcot.929265/page-902#post-10182406

My understanding was that the price point for Tron was between Shanghai Pirates ($350) and Cosmic Rewind ($450)

 

[No Name]

My understanding was that the price point for Tron was between Shanghai Pirates ($350) and Cosmic Rewind ($450)

Apparently Shanghai Pirates was $450 not $350. I was looking for a comment to back that up, and it turns out it’s from… uhhh… you!

Tom Morris said Shanghai Pirates clocked in at around $450 mil. Tron would have to be less than that, right? Are you sure your numbers don't involve both coaster projects (the Captain America coaster for DCA?)