News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

Bocabear

Well-Known Member
Disney doesn’t have building problems. Disney simply doesn’t have a financial incentive to push Tron to have gotten it done any earlier. Once Covid came into the picture (meaning overseas, not waiting for first cases here in US) every major international company knew **** was going to hit the fan. There was absolutely no reason to get Tron built up only to have it sir in a park that was shut down, or operating at less than full capacity.

Then looking further out you had the 50th anniversary, and the pent up domestic travel demand that came from Covid starting to wind down. You didn’t need a brand new ride to spark interest or drive attendance at parks, you already had it.

Then you had Rat which was further along in construction (completed but not opended right away) and GotG which was further along in development. Your not going to open three new rides at the same time. That cannibalizes the impact of each new opening. So you got Rat at the end of this year loosely coinciding with the start of the 50th. You will get GotG in q2 2022 at roughly the halfway point of the 50th celebration and at the start of the summer season. Then you likely get Tron near end or 50th celebration.

There was never any need to push full speed and build Tron (or any other new attraction) as quickly as possible.
Yeah, I get that, but the parks already seem to be at capacity most of the year anyway...Marketing at this point shouldn't be the reason for opening new attractions, capacity and guest satisfaction should be.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
Yeah, I get that, but the parks already seem to be at capacity most of the year anyway...Marketing at this point shouldn't be the reason for opening new attractions, capacity and guest satisfaction should be.
Unfortunately TRON won’t help. It will be EXTREMELY marketable and people will come to the park for it. Where will they all go once TRON‘s BGs and ILLs are gone at 7:00:02 am? At least we will have the choo-choo back. Presumably Splash will close, however.
 

MrPromey

Well-Known Member
Happy anniversary!



Meanwhile, just down the road, Hagrid's Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure will be celebrating its third anniversary of operation in a few months. It opened on June 13, 2019... after replacing The Dragon Challenge which, as an existing attraction in the place it was constructed, closed for dismantling less than two years prior.*

But I mean, that's just (as it stands) the most expensive and possibly the most complex coaster ever built so whatevas. 🤷‍♂️


*Same year, in fact, Disney announced this albatross and Universal hadn't even said what was coming as they tore that down and began construction.
 
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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
It has been resolved. She can compete, but if she wins (again) no medal ceremony. Wow, that'll show her. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Unless you have some other source, you're not correct.

It's not that she won't get a ceremony, she won't get a medal at all.

 

MrPromey

Well-Known Member
There are hundreds of comparisons to show that is not the reason why.

Regional parks build large scale attractions faster than Disney. Other destination theme park resorts build attractions(multiple) faster than this.
One of the problems is D23.

Disney has successfully monetized and actually turned into a form of attraction itself, the annual announcement of "upcoming" attractions. In times when there is really nothing coming anytime soon, that's got to put a lot of pressure on certain people to come up with things to announce or tease even if those things are still blue sky.

Vague concept art, things announced that take half a decade or more to build (possibly because they haven't even been designed yet) and things that never end up making it to actual construction?

Par for the course with Disney.

While everyone else quietly goes to work building their next big thing, Disney wants to take glory (and more than a few dollars) just for telling us what they think they might do... some day.

... and it works. 🙄
 
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fgmnt

Well-Known Member
One of the problems is D23.

Disney has successfully monetized and actually turned into a form of attraction itself, the annual announcement of "upcoming" attractions. In times when there is really nothing coming anytime soon, that's got to put a lot of pressure on certain people to come up with things to announce or tease even if those things are still blue sky.

Vague concept art, things announced that take half a decade or more to build (possibly because they haven't even been designed yet) and things that never end up making it to actual construction?

Par for the course with Disney.

While everyone else quietly goes to work building their next big thing, Disney wants to take glory (and more than a few dollars) just for telling us what they think they might do.

... and it works. 🙄

Even that's a pretty poor excuse; there is nothing stopping them from going vertical with an attraction before it's announced. Their neighbors do it all the time. And when it comes to announcing and then cancelling (/"shelving") attractions, the company has been doing it since before the invention of the internet. I will grant you that they seem to have gotten even louder and prouder at announcing and not building attractions.
 

Ayla

Well-Known Member
Unless you have some other source, you're not correct.

It's not that she won't get a ceremony, she won't get a medal at all.

Last response, because I've had enough of the mansplaining today.

No one will receive a medal or ceremony because she is a lying cheater surrounded by lying cheaters. That includes the athletes who have worked their off and properly followed all the rules. It is a travesty and I honestly hope all the other women refuse to participate in the event due to it.
 

G00fyDad

Well-Known Member
Last response, because I've had enough of the mansplaining today.

No one will receive a medal or ceremony because she is a lying cheater surrounded by lying cheaters. That includes the athletes who have worked their ***** off and properly followed all the rules. It is a travesty and I honestly hope all the other women refuse to participate in the event due to it.
As a man's man I feel that it's my job and my responsibility to explain this to you in very simple terms. You see.....


I'm just messing with you. 🤣
 

MrPromey

Well-Known Member
Even that's a pretty poor excuse; there is nothing stopping them from going vertical with an attraction before it's announced. Their neighbors do it all the time. And when it comes to announcing and then cancelling (/"shelving") attractions, the company has been doing it since before the invention of the internet. I will grant you that they seem to have gotten even louder and prouder at announcing and not building attractions.
What excuse? (I think we're on the same page, btw)

There's is something HUGE stopping them from going vertical and then announcing an attraction - they have nothing new attraction-wise that they're planning to go vertical with and have open within in the next few years that hasn't already been announced.

How do I know this? Because if they did have something that far along, they'd have already announced it at a D23 at least a couple of years ago.

See how that works? 🤣

Seriously, they'd have had to have made the decision to do what you're saying 5 years ago and they didn't which is why we're all here talking about how long it's taking them to build Tron.

Heck, how long ago did they announce the landscaped water feature using vague descriptions and concept art that looks like it could have been for a redesign of the front of the Poly, replacing the central spine of Epcot?

How's that pile of dirt coming along again?

The center of that park is seriously effed up and has been now for YEARS and management is just


baby-monkey-unbothered.gif


We talk about all of this like they care, even 1/10th as much as we do and it's becoming more and more evident that they don't.
 
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fgmnt

Well-Known Member
What excuse? (I think we're on the same page, btw)

There's is something HUGE stopping them from going vertical and then announcing an attraction - they have nothing new attraction-wise that they're planning to go vertical with and have open within in the next few years that hasn't already been announced.

How do I know this? Because if they did have something that far along, they'd have already announced it at a D23 at least a couple of years ago. 🤣

See how that works? 🤣

Seriously, they'd have had to have made the decision to do what you're saying 5 years ago and they didn't which is why we're all here talking about how long it's taking them to build Tron.

Heck, how long ago did they announce the landscaped water feature using vague descriptions and concept art that looks like it could have been for a redesign of the front of the Poly, replacing the central spine of Epcot?

How's that pile of dirt coming along again?

The center of that park is seriously effed up and has been now for YEARS and management is just


baby-monkey-unbothered.gif


We talk about all of this like they care, even 1/10th as much as we do and it's becoming more and more evident that they don't.
We're on the same page, boss.
 

MrPromey

Well-Known Member
Even that's a pretty poor excuse; there is nothing stopping them from going vertical with an attraction before it's announced. Their neighbors do it all the time. And when it comes to announcing and then cancelling (/"shelving") attractions, the company has been doing it since before the invention of the internet. I will grant you that they seem to have gotten even louder and prouder at announcing and not building attractions.
BTW, I agree this has always been a thing - like going way back, what was supposed to originally go where GF ended up, for instance but now, I feel like they've turned what was once something that sometimes didn't go according to plan into its own revenue generating platform where ultimately, they don't think there always needs to be a plan.

Like remember the concept art for the Play Pavilion?

Obviously, COVID was a fly in the ointment of that idea for an indoor attraction based entirely on close-quarter guest interaction but the concept art wasn't even original - it was a bunch of artwork poached across random segments of the company like some sort of internal vision-board/fever-dream about what could be from some sort of pitch meeting... except, that's what they actually released to the public.
 
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