News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

gerarar

Premium Member
Photo update from r/rollercoasters:
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James Alucobond

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A concrete wall just recently went up that I assume will sit directly next to the tunnel (or actually be part of the tunnel entrance) based on its location, so this tracks.
 

G00fyDad

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Permit today that I assume is for the Train Tunnel. Expiration date is 12/31/2023, take that as you will.

4960 N World Drive - MK-2 Tunnel
Forgive my ignorance because I know next to nothing about construction or permits but wouldn't it make sense for them to extend the permit farther than they think they're actually going to need so they don't have to go back and refile for another permit?
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Forgive my ignorance because I know next to nothing about construction or permits but wouldn't it make sense for them to extend the permit farther than they think they're actually going to need so they don't have to go back and refile for another permit?

The expiration date on a notice of commencement, which is what these really are, is the date all work must be complete and the contractor paid, so I would think that the contractors wouldn't want to stretch it out to far. In this case, it's a big project with a big contractor, so payment timelines may have already been negotiated and not depend on the expiration date.

Bottom line, it can be sometime be hard to interpret the expiration date really indicates.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Forgive my ignorance because I know next to nothing about construction or permits but wouldn't it make sense for them to extend the permit farther than they think they're actually going to need so they don't have to go back and refile for another permit?
The permit expires at the end of 2023.

Our Train Insider says it'll be blowing smoke before the end of 2022.
 

Patcheslee

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The expiration date on a notice of commencement, which is what these really are, is the date all work must be complete and the contractor paid, so I would think that the contractors wouldn't want to stretch it out to far. In this case, it's a big project with a big contractor, so payment timelines may have already been negotiated and not depend on the expiration date.

Bottom line, it can be sometime be hard to interpret the expiration date really indicates.
Reading the fine bolded print "Warning to owner...." Guess there is Florida laws on payment being required before expiration.
Also don't know how permit fees in large scale projects work. Maybe they are looking at less fees vs applying for another later?
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
I don't know, the form set up is facing the storm sewer tower that has the manhole at path grade. Where does the train go in there?

I was thinking about that also, I assume a second wall will be built to the right of that form. Which way the form is facing really doesn't matter, they are going to put a second form on that side to create a wall.
 

JoeCamel

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I was thinking about that also, I assume a second wall will be built to the right of that form. Which way the form is facing really doesn't matter, they are going to put a second form on that side to create a wall.
I guess my western brain works from left to right and would build the first form, gap to be poured, next facing form then the other side out and then the last on the right in but what do I know, it just looked weird to do it that way
 

bpiper

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I don't think that wall is part of a tunnel. It is outside of the canopy. It looks like a retaining wall. In the picture I marked up below, the Lime green line is the footer of the retaining wall, the Red line is the ground grade from the entrance ramp, matching the top of the manhole stack and continuing onto the retaining wall. Now if the retaining wall is alongside of the train tracks, the Yellow line would be the tracks. On another note, it looks like the reason they haven't started the tunnel yet is because they still have all the shoring still in place supporting the entrance ramp bridge.
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JoeCamel

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I don't think that wall is part of a tunnel. It is outside of the canopy. It looks like a retaining wall. In the picture I marked up below, the Lime green line is the footer of the retaining wall, the Red line is the ground grade from the entrance ramp, matching the top of the manhole stack and continuing onto the retaining wall. Now if the retaining wall is alongside of the train tracks, the Yellow line would be the tracks. On another note, it looks like the reason they haven't started the tunnel yet is because they still have all the shoring still in place supporting the entrance ramp bridge.
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I could see them putting a facing form on the manhole side then using all the steel in the foreground to form the tunnel. The footer is plenty wide to be supporting tracks/ties as well. It extends pretty far from under the wall.
 

Goofy Ninja

Well-Known Member
Tron Coaster coming to Magic Kingdom... eventually. It takes Disney Parks in America 5 times longer to make something already in Chinese parks. I guess it could be because the workers families in China are being held at gunpoint.
 

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