News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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doctornick said:
Tron will be open long before Epic Universe. It's probably looking at 2025, maybe late 2024 at the earliest. Even the most cynical don't expect Tron to still not be open by then.
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Let's hope so. I would not have expected Tron and the RR to take this long and it sure seems we will not see Tron for 2022 either.

Not sure if the RR can re open before Tron?
How many years ago was the RR closed?
 
Casper Gutman

Casper Gutman

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Touchdown said:
One of my issues with Spider-Man is unique to that IP, mainly it has a ride at a rival park that to this day is one of my favorite dark rides. It is a masterpiece. Web slingers fails to live up to that ride. However I get it, most people in CA haven’t ridden that ride so that’s a fan boy issue.

What isn’t a fan boy issue, is that there is another screen based shooter dark ride, in the same park, that I believe is a much better ride. This is the same complaint universal faced when building transformers out East, is why that ride is not nearly as popular, and at least they put it in another park.
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Spidey is uniquely awful for a lot of reasons - as you say, a wonderful ride based on the franchise already existed at a competitors park and a very similar style ride exists yards away in DCA. But wait, there’s more!

The Spidey/ TSL format is profoundly lazy as a theme park attraction - as has often been argued, it’s essentially a Wii game. It has none of the detail or immersiveness that should define a dark ride.

Spidey is the biggest character in the biggest franchise of all time. His recent film made more then every film released in the last two years combined. The size of his pop culture footprint makes the contrast with the smallness of the ride galling.

As has been eloquently stated, and as is so often the case with Disney, this tiny, terrible ride is the cornerstone to a major land that wastes the biggest franchise in film history - worse, the land, unlike anything Disney has built since the original DCA, is horribly broken on the conceptual level.

A dark ride thrives on rich, varied environments. That’s the key element, more then character or story - the first generation of Imagineers knew this by heart. It’s why RotR, as good as it is, still falls short of true immortality. The setting of Spidey is unbelievably bland. Even worse and more inexplicably, the settings on the screens are bland. Even even worse, those settings simply recreate areas IN THE SAME LAND IN THE PARK.

The physical space of the ride is embarrassing. As underwhelming as TSMM is, at least it has some color and the layout makes some narrative sense. Spidey is an unthemed warehouse which doesn’t even try to create a sense of movement from place to place. The ride doesn’t even try to pretend it’s anything other then a bunch of TVs with Wii games.

The ride so completely misses the IPs appeal it seems intentional. Spidey is a wildly kinetic character - he swings and vaults and soars. The ride barely moves, trundling on a track, and stops. Spidey has the second best rogues gallery in comic, a host of fun, colorful baddies. The ride has you fighting legions of poorly-designed droids (available in the gift shop!) with no personality or visual interest at all.

Spidey is a disgrace. It should burn whatever credibility Disney park management - and Imagineering - has.

If not for the Universal contract, a clone at WDW would probably be Bobs answer to EU.
 
G00fyDad

G00fyDad

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Disney management approving each and every move the construction crew makes:
Office Sloth GIF by Disney Zootopia
 
ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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gorillaball said:
"Media blitz" = announcing specifically "Toy Story Land now open" ok, we'll agree to disagree on what Disney over promoting a land is.
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Yeah and they marketed a kiddie land with huge toys and only gave guests a…kiddie land with huge toys.

I understand the complaints more over SWGE. They marketed a land with droids and aliens all around. I always visit during nap time I guess.
 
MickeyLuv'r

MickeyLuv'r

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Casper Gutman said:
What a long-winded way to say you don't pay much attention to what other posters say. Just to pick out a couple little points - WDW has "the most rides?" Disney has three woefully underbuilt parks, one with eight rides, another with nine. The two parks in California have, if I recall, about as many rides as all of the parks at the Florida resort. And that "saturated market" - yeah, that's exactly the assumption Disney made when they began investing in data-mining and crowd-shifting software instead of new rides - and then Potterland came along and made them look like fools, but fools who were too arrogant to change course.

And on that note, isn't it weird that Universal is adding a third park to that saturated market? And isn't it odd that Universal adds almost yearly attractions without the insane levels of hype Disney pours onto a kiddie coaster? Or did I miss the Bourne Stuntacular Super Bowl add? Is Comcast a badly run company?
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Ooh...you had me until that last sentence. The complaints against Comcast are many. You may have noticed, the cable/internet portion of their business has actually been renamed. THAT's how much people despise Comcast.
 
bpiper

bpiper

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gorillaball said:
"Media blitz" = announcing specifically "Toy Story Land now open" ok, we'll agree to disagree on what Disney over promoting a land is.
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When it opened, they had a fleet of box trucks with LED sides driving around the tourist areas playing clips of Toy Story land. They forgot to turn the brightness down at night on them sometimes. It was like staring into the sun......
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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gorillaball said:
"Media blitz" = announcing specifically "Toy Story Land now open" ok, we'll agree to disagree on what Disney over promoting a land is.
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The content of the ad isn't at issue. It's what they spent to promote it. They likely spent somewhere in the neighborhood of $5 million just to run it once during the Super Bowl, and it's not like that's the only time it was on TV.
 
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gorillaball

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UNCgolf said:
The content of the ad isn't at issue. It's what they spent to promote it. They likely spent somewhere in the neighborhood of $5 million just to run it once during the Super Bowl, and it's not like that's the only time it was on TV.
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Wow the narrative has changed quick
Don't over hype things to be something they aren't... and now
You spent too much on advertising (but the content is fine)
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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I think the Tron coaster is a great attraction from the looks of it. I am so glad we got one in FL, I can’t wait to try it when it’s finally done.

That said , it’s taking WAY TOO LONG to complete!!!!!
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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gorillaball said:
Wow the narrative has changed quick
Don't over hype things to be something they aren't... and now
You spent too much on advertising (but the content is fine)
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Changing the narrative how? You're exhibiting the irrational mistake of assuming every single person responding to you is saying the exact same thing, as though it's one hive mind speaking instead of individual people. I haven't commented on this issue before, so...

Regardless, the content and the spend go hand in hand. If you are spending millions and millions of dollars to promote something, that equals hyping it. Are you suggesting that they spent a gigantic sum on advertising because they didn't want people to be really excited about it and come to the parks specifically to see it?
 

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