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News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

gerarar

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Hi, sorry, I'm gonna be the stupid question asker here...

But they're not done installing the track are they? I mean, there's gotta be more to it... right?
It just seems like it kind of stopped and now I see they're starting on the building walls.

Thanks!
The indoor portion of the track is finished, hence why they're moving onto the showbuilding now. As for the outside portions, I believe the concrete footings are in place (from recent pics), but the track has yet to still be installed. In the recent aerials by Bio, you can see the rest of the track staged somewhere backstaged on property.
 

Mac Tonight

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The indoor portion of the track is finished, hence why they're moving onto the showbuilding now. As for the outside portions, I believe the concrete footings are in place (from recent pics), but the track has yet to still be installed. In the recent aerials by Bio, you can see the rest of the track staged somewhere backstaged on property.
OK thanks. That's what I was thinking. I mean, I already know its on the shorter end of roller coasters, but if that was all there was, I was gonna be even more disappointed.
 

gerarar

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OK thanks. That's what I was thinking. I mean, I already know its on the shorter end of roller coasters, but if that was all there was, I was gonna be even more disappointed.
Just for reference, I believe this is where the indoor portion begins/resumes after from your little excursion outside. So everything before this would be outdoor track/under the canopy.
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matt9112

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The indoor portion of the track is finished, hence why they're moving onto the showbuilding now. As for the outside portions, I believe the concrete footings are in place (from recent pics), but the track has yet to still be installed. In the recent aerials by Bio, you can see the rest of the track staged somewhere backstaged on property.
to be clear the coaster is very short and is nothing special from a coaster stand point. its biggest novelty is the seating that sort of went the way of the dinosaur from old steeplechase coasters. im not saying it wont be fun im excited but expectations need to be kept grounded.
 

Bocabear

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to be clear the coaster is very short and is nothing special from a coaster stand point. its biggest novelty is the seating that sort of went the way of the dinosaur from old steeplechase coasters. im not saying it wont be fun im excited but expectations need to be kept grounded.
The launch is very thrilling...... the rest of the outdoor portion is a throwaway... just done to look cool from outside but adds nothing to the experience. The ride would be better had the entire thing been withing the interior TRON grid...
It's a fun ride... It is just not as amazing as I was anticipating... we did go on it 4 times in a row...so it was certainly fun.
 

EricsBiscuit

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MK’s skylines have been a cluster since 1975 and Tron is far superior to Space Mountain. I see no issue with this addition. It’s not like Disney would have spent the money on a kick posterior non ip e ticket in Adventureland. They probably would have killed the Liberty Belle and TSI instead.
 

Missing20K

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Which is why it's annoying that after 50 years of Disney keeping sightlines at MK largely intact they now are willing to accept a massive, undisguised warehouse on the edge of the park.

There was a time it was expected that THEY would worry about the out of place details so they could remove them before guests encountered them.

Why now are we expected to simply ignore them when the very premise of their business is creating a rich and cohesive experience unencumbered by the intrusion of details that break the illusion?
A little louder, please. For those in the back.
 

ntn_haqqer

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Which is why it's annoying that after 50 years of Disney keeping sightlines at MK largely intact they now are willing to accept a massive, undisguised warehouse on the edge of the park.

There was a time it was expected that THEY would worry about the out of place details so they could remove them before guests encountered them.

Why now are we expected to simply ignore them when the very premise of their business is creating a rich and cohesive experience unencumbered by the intrusion of details that break the illusion?
It's called "evolution". The park will eventually have to break construction standards to accommodate for new attractions whether or not those standards fall in place and make an attraction blend into the scenery. For example, take a look at Tower of Terror at Hollywood Studios - the reason why it's designed the way it is so that it blends in with the architecture of Morocco at Epcot. If the construction standards did not call for such a design to be built like that, is that going to deter from your experience because ToT is designed differently than Morocco's architecture?

And, here's another question for you - how are you even worried about sight lines when you're at ground level anyways? You're going to be able to see what's in front of you anyways - not what's behind another attraction. So, if I'm walking around Frontierland at MK towards Splash Mountain and turn around - I don't think I'm going to see the "undisguised warehouse on the edge of the park" in Tomorrowland and don't even go there with the "view from atop Splash Mountain" because when I'm at the top of Splash, the only thing I care about is that drop. The buildings in the distance? Don't care.

Tomorrowland needs another thrill ride anyways to help with the wait times at Space Mountain. Tomorrowland has been in a state of status quo since the mid 90s. I mean, other than the removal of Alien Encounter (which was more of a thrill show than a ride), it would be cool to see Tomorrowland get a refresh/update for MK's 50th Anniversary. I know I'm pretty excited about Tron. :)
 

lazyboy97o

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It's called "evolution". The park will eventually have to break construction standards to accommodate for new attractions whether or not those standards fall in place and make an attraction blend into the scenery. For example, take a look at Tower of Terror at Hollywood Studios - the reason why it's designed the way it is so that it blends in with the architecture of Morocco at Epcot. If the construction standards did not call for such a design to be built like that, is that going to deter from your experience because ToT is designed differently than Morocco's architecture?

And, here's another question for you - how are you even worried about sight lines when you're at ground level anyways? You're going to be able to see what's in front of you anyways - not what's behind another attraction. So, if I'm walking around Frontierland at MK towards Splash Mountain and turn around - I don't think I'm going to see the "undisguised warehouse on the edge of the park" in Tomorrowland and don't even go there with the "view from atop Splash Mountain" because when I'm at the top of Splash, the only thing I care about is that drop. The buildings in the distance? Don't care.

Tomorrowland needs another thrill ride anyways to help with the wait times at Space Mountain. Tomorrowland has been in a state of status quo since the mid 90s. I mean, other than the removal of Alien Encounter (which was more of a thrill show than a ride), it would be cool to see Tomorrowland get a refresh/update for MK's 50th Anniversary. I know I'm pretty excited about Tron. :)
Huh? The Hollywood Tower Hotel is not the same because of exactly what you said. You don’t see a warehouse sticking up over the back of the Morocco Pavilion. Are you also claiming that an 82’ tall building cannot be seen from the ground?
 

ntn_haqqer

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Huh? The Hollywood Tower Hotel is not the same because of exactly what you said. You don’t see a warehouse sticking up over the back of the Morocco Pavilion. Are you also claiming that an 82’ tall building cannot be seen from the ground?
Not from Frontierland, at least. ;)
 

smile

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Maybe that will be enough to keep those wait times down to less than 120 minutes. ;)
depends on how many people think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread compared to what it actually is - an exhilarating sixty second exhibition of style over substance
 

yensidtlaw1969

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It's called "evolution". The park will eventually have to break construction standards to accommodate for new attractions whether or not those standards fall in place and make an attraction blend into the scenery. For example, take a look at Tower of Terror at Hollywood Studios - the reason why it's designed the way it is so that it blends in with the architecture of Morocco at Epcot. If the construction standards did not call for such a design to be built like that, is that going to deter from your experience because ToT is designed differently than Morocco's architecture?

And, here's another question for you - how are you even worried about sight lines when you're at ground level anyways? You're going to be able to see what's in front of you anyways - not what's behind another attraction. So, if I'm walking around Frontierland at MK towards Splash Mountain and turn around - I don't think I'm going to see the "undisguised warehouse on the edge of the park" in Tomorrowland and don't even go there with the "view from atop Splash Mountain" because when I'm at the top of Splash, the only thing I care about is that drop. The buildings in the distance? Don't care.

Tomorrowland needs another thrill ride anyways to help with the wait times at Space Mountain. Tomorrowland has been in a state of status quo since the mid 90s. I mean, other than the removal of Alien Encounter (which was more of a thrill show than a ride), it would be cool to see Tomorrowland get a refresh/update for MK's 50th Anniversary. I know I'm pretty excited about Tron. :)
You didn't just make the point you think you did - the very fact that Morocco was considered when designing The Tower of Terror demonstrates the lengths to which they used to go to preserve the integrity of the parks. That we now have a massive blank warehouse towering over Future World is a testament to how far standards have fallen. The TRON show building will not be quite as intrusive, but it's the next worst thing when it comes to damaging the previously well-considered skyline of an existing park. It won't be visible from all points in the park, but it won't be disguised from many. Certainly the vistas from the Monorail and the Contemporary will also be forever changed, and not for the better. For a long time the worst you saw at MK was an errant roof from a high viewing angle, and a snippet of the Haunted Mansion show building if you knew where to look and were really looking.

I'm fine with TRON coming to Tomorrowland - I daresay I'm excited to ride it - but I won't pretend they're incorporating it into the park in a way that's up to the standards the company has set historically. Find me one part of the Splash Mountain show building that reveals itself from within the park - or even outside of it. The show building for TRON is a problem in Shanghai and evidence suggests they haven't taken to fixing it here.

You don't care about the great view of Cinderella Castle and the MK below from the top of Splash Mountain? That's meant to be part of the fun. Fine if you don't care, but it doesn't serve anything to dismiss those who do. I'd wager that most of us fell in love with the parks because of the choices made by the people who held projects to the highest standard they could rather than the choices made by the people who didn't. And these days Disney is capable of attaining higher standards than ever. They clearly went to great trouble building all that rockwork around Cars Land, Pandora, and Galaxy's Edge, so it's not like they can't show up when they want to.
 

egg

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It's premature to say it's going to "screw up the skyline and feel of the Magic Kingdom" when it hasn't even been built yet.

Also not sure how one coaster is going to ruin the entire park for you, but I feel bad for you if it does.
We know what height it’s going to be and know how it’s going to look from many angles already. It’s been modeled before. It’s certainly going to screw up the view of Space Mountain and that is in no way premature.

exactly -
tron's not for them... it's for you.
It doesn’t matter who the ride is for and not for and whatnot, it will subconsciously hurt every guest’s experience as they take the monorail to the park past Space Mountain.
 
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lazyboy97o

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Let's just agree to disagree. Still, I don't know what the hang up is. Go to the park, forget the sight lines, and just enjoy the day. You'll be a happier person in the morning. :)
That you made up the complaint about being able to see the showbuilding from the ground in Frontierland is rather obvious.

Knowing the amount of care that goes into a design makes me happy.
 

ntn_haqqer

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That you made up the complaint about being able to see the showbuilding from the ground in Frontierland is rather obvious.

Knowing the amount of care that goes into a design makes me happy.
It was stated a few posts back that the sight lines were going to be ruined from on top of Splash Mountain and I'm saying, "Why should anyone care?" If you're so busy being focused on what's going on out in the distance on Splash, then you're kind of missing the ride itself. To me, I don't care. Tron is a ride. It's a new ride. I'm pretty pumped about it. But, understand that change is inevitable and Disney is just following a trend to keep guests entertained. Again....it's called "evolution."
 
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