trams from the parking lots

[mergatroid]

That makes no sense considering what is operating inside the parks.

It’s an excuse for a budget cut and everyone knows it.

I'm tired of this argument. No it wasn't. It's not any different than any of the rides at the parks.

Load every other row, put a sheet of plexiglass between rows, and voila. This argument is tired and overdone on the trams. It is absolutely possible to load the trams... If they can load Rock n' roller Coaster, Slinky Dog Dash, Living with the Land, Thunder Mountain, Everest, Monorails, Steamboats, Jungle Cruise, Busses, and literally every other form of transportation imaginable, then they could have easily figured it out for the trams.

The difference I can think of is that before you ride an attraction, you've been through a temperature check at the entrance? Therefore anyone who thinks "I'm hot today and feel a bit off, but I'm going to the park anyway" will not be allowed in the park to sit and walk near others. When leaving your vehicle you've not been screened so allowing you to sit near others and touch seats etc will spread the infection whilst on the tram.

I have no idea if that is the driving reason behind the decision, but it can't be denied that it makes a difference between riding an attraction and riding a tram.

 

[Tori]

I thought the reason there is no trams running right now was because of the temperature check tents. At MK the tent is in the tram lane.

 

[WondersOfLife]

With that twisted logic Disney would have to buy 3x as many trams plus personnel to operate them to get people back to their vehicles. Then once the pandemic subsides, you have that wasted investment. Stop being annoying!!

It shouldn’t be a problem with “reduced capacity” ;-)

The difference I can think of is that before you ride an attraction, you've been through a temperature check at the entrance? Therefore anyone who thinks "I'm hot today and feel a bit off, but I'm going to the park anyway" will not be allowed in the park to sit and walk near others. When leaving your vehicle you've not been screened so allowing you to sit near others and touch seats etc will spread the infection whilst on the tram.

I have no idea if that is the driving reason behind the decision, but it can't be denied that it makes a difference between riding an attraction and riding a tram.

That’s the only logical argument I have heard. But it could still be adjusted and they could have definitely come up with a system if they just thought a little longer. Also, I guess they should get rid of their busses if that’s the case.

 

[WondersOfLife]

The issue is not about the guests ON the tram. Plexi or loading every other row will not solve the issue. Social distancing IS the reason trams are not operating. You can think and argue otherwise but you would be wrong

They can come up with whatever “reason” they want but it’s not the “real” reason.

 

[WondersOfLife]

The attractions are what draws people to the parks. The trams don't exactly do that.

...okay? Totally off topic but go at it.

 

[WondersOfLife]

Oh they are filling all seats on the bus now? I hadn’t heard that but makes sense considering increased crowds.

They were filling all seats on the busses back in august.

 

[Lilofan]

...okay? Totally off topic but go at it.

Saving money on trams or saving money laying off more staff? . Even D'Amaro the parks chairman has advised the company is doing everything that it can to preserve as many jobs as possible .

 

[WondersOfLife]

Saving money on trams or saving money laying off more staff? . Even D'Amaro the parks chairman has advised the company is doing everything that it can to preserve as many jobs as possible .

A hot topic right now is about how many CMs were laid off... What else is he supposed to say in the eyes of the public/media?

 

[peter11435]

They can come up with whatever “reason” they want but it’s not the “real” reason.

Except it is the real reason.

 

[Tori]

I don’t understand the bus and tram comparison. Busses are necessary. Tram is a courtesy.

 

[Lilofan]

A hot topic right now is about how many CMs were laid off... What else is he supposed to say in the eyes of the public/media?

I've worked for companies and have survived layoffs. Believe it or not, there are cutbacks in operations to help preserve jobs, not all of them but it does happen.

 

[WondersOfLife]

Except it is the real reason.

No it’s not.

 

[ELG13]

The difference I can think of is that before you ride an attraction, you've been through a temperature check at the entrance? Therefore anyone who thinks "I'm hot today and feel a bit off, but I'm going to the park anyway" will not be allowed in the park to sit and walk near others. When leaving your vehicle you've not been screened so allowing you to sit near others and touch seats etc will spread the infection whilst on the tram.

I have no idea if that is the driving reason behind the decision, but it can't be denied that it makes a difference between riding an attraction and riding a tram.

That's what I thought as well...but those people are waiting in line at the bus stops at resorts before temp checks. Heck, when I'm at the pool without a mask on I'm not temp checked. At least we weren't in January.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

I'm struggling to see how people waiting to board a tram is any different than people waiting to board a Disney bus or any other form of transportation. Put up a queue with markers etc.

At least I assume that's the issue; I can't think of any other one. Unless it's tied in with a staffing issue in that they don't want to have to keep someone out there to enforce the distancing.

Once you are in the park, the onus is on you to follow the rules(wear a mask) or else you might be removed from the park and you are out a days price of admission. People the riding the tram don't have any of that pressure to follow the rules or not, and nor is there a staff(what one or two people working the tram) on board to prevent people for breaking the rules.

 

[celluloid]

The difference I can think of is that before you ride an attraction, you've been through a temperature check at the entrance? Therefore anyone who thinks "I'm hot today and feel a bit off, but I'm going to the park anyway" will not be allowed in the park to sit and walk near others. When leaving your vehicle you've not been screened so allowing you to sit near others and touch seats etc will spread the infection whilst on the tram.

I have no idea if that is the driving reason behind the decision, but it can't be denied that it makes a difference between riding an attraction and riding a tram.

You can ride other forms of transportation without temperature checks and other areas such as checking in hotel property, the water parks operate with less of the more effective precautions than the temperature screenings as well.

It is nothing personal against the poster Peter11435 who states that it is not a budget/workforce cut. I genuinely believe he has been told that it was not. But it is the primary reason.

For those who have never thought about it or do not know: most of the Tram duties are very demanding on late shifts.
For example, even when a park closes at 7 or 8(which is pretty early for some park closing times as they inch towards average) the parking teams are out there in many cases for hours later before clocking out. So many around 10PM. These positions are majority filled and operated by College Program Cast Members. That is not an option right now and it takes quite a team.

There are a lot of misinformation spreaders and apologists told to give side info as primary reasoning and that gets lost. It is nothing personal, but it is a budget/workforce cut. That is just the reality.

 

[WondersOfLife]

I don’t understand the bus and tram comparison. Busses are necessary. Tram is a courtesy.

Technically they are a courtesy as well.

 

[mergatroid]

It shouldn’t be a problem with “reduced capacity” ;-)



That’s the only logical argument I have heard. But it could still be adjusted and they could have definitely come up with a system if they just thought a little longer. Also, I guess they should get rid of their busses if that’s the case.

It's probably a combination of safety and finance, there's no doubting that. Do the hotels not do temperature screening at check-in? If so then the people on the bus in theory will have at least had a temperature check recently. Even so that's not perfect and taking a bus is probably the most high risk part of a trip. I imagine Disney feel that without buses from resorts there'd be too few guests to make it viable which is putting finance over safety, then again they're not forcing anyone to use their buses.

A system to screen before using the tram would be very problematic. As the parking lot fills they'd have to keep moving the screening station. They'd have to corral people which would also mean moving barriers after each lane fills. Extra security there to stop those who haven't been tested from boarding and deal with those not happy that they're being screened in a temporary station etc. It's possible to do but the logistics would make it cost far more than it's probably reasonable to expect and also many would find walking quicker than waiting to be screened so skip the tram and walk.

 

[celluloid]

I don’t understand the bus and tram comparison. Busses are necessary. Tram is a courtesy.

If you are wondering why they are called that it is because Parking Trams are more common name for other places and to Disney at the time they were dubbed that, it was felt had an uglier nomenclature.(like most other things named and referenced that way by design at the time)

At any rate, it used to also be one of the four keys. What happens when you take courtesies away from guests? I think it is agreed that it is a bad thing. Making a bed at a hotel is a service that is a courtesy, but most people expect to come back to their hotel room with a made bed.

 

[WondersOfLife]

It's probably a combination of safety and finance, there's no doubting that. Do the hotels not do temperature screening at check-in? If so then the people on the bus in theory will have at least had a temperature check recently. Even so that's not perfect and taking a bus is probably the most high risk part of a trip. I imagine Disney feel that without buses from resorts there'd be too few guests to make it viable which is putting finance over safety, then again they're not forcing anyone to use their buses.

A system to screen before using the tram would be very problematic. As the parking lot fills they'd have to keep moving the screening station. They'd have to corral people which would also mean moving barriers after each lane fills. Extra security there to stop those who haven't been tested from boarding and deal with those not happy that they're being screened in a temporary station etc. It's possible to do but the logistics would make it cost far more than it's probably reasonable to expect and also many would find walking quicker than waiting to be screened so skip the tram and walk.

Most of what you just discussed has already been replied to (sounds more blunt than I meant It to be).

 

[UNCgolf]

Once you are in the park, the onus is on you to follow the rules(wear a mask) or else you might be removed from the park and you are out a days price of admission. People the riding the tram don't have any of that pressure to follow the rules or not, and nor is there a staff(what one or two people working the tram) on board to prevent people for breaking the rules.

All of that is true for the bus service as well, which is why it was my comparison. You're not in the park and there's not usually any staff at the bus stops at the resorts or outside of the parks, although there could be right now during COVID.