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Traces of history that shouldn't be there
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unkadug
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So you you agree with my assessment of the tow rope?
Figments Friend
Well-Known Member
I know i agree...
When i saw the photo shown earlier of the Swan Boat, it looked to me like it was *anchored* specifically for the promo shot.
I was always under the impression that they were free-floating vessels, which is why the tow line looked out of place.
So yeah, i agree. Probably used just to make sure the boat is in the right spot for the photo.
When i saw the photo shown earlier of the Swan Boat, it looked to me like it was *anchored* specifically for the promo shot.
I was always under the impression that they were free-floating vessels, which is why the tow line looked out of place.
So yeah, i agree. Probably used just to make sure the boat is in the right spot for the photo.
ewensell3
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Was the "street" that runs along Dinoland USA at AK specifically built/modified for Lucky the Dinosaur, or was it just a good place for him to walk?
I only ask because it always seemed odd for a perfectly maintained asphalt street to exist among all the beaten and weathered paths at Animal Kingdom.
I only ask because it always seemed odd for a perfectly maintained asphalt street to exist among all the beaten and weathered paths at Animal Kingdom.
The street is actually not asphalt. It is concrete made to look like asphalt. Legend tells us that after the problems with the asphalt used at the DL opening in 1955, they refused to ever use the stuff inside a park again. I have no idea if that is true, but the fact that they made concrete look like asphalt sure gives a little credence to the story.
Goofnut1980
Well-Known Member
I want the fountain back on the end of the load/unload in TL
Epicpilot
Active Member
It's a real shame. It would be nice to take a walk from the GF to MK or vice versa, its especially nice at night with the lights.
Goofyernmost
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The street is actually there representing a highway. The back-story of Chester & Hesters Dino area is, in capsule form, Chester and Hester owned a gas station/store along a highway (the street you are talking about) at some point fossils are discovered on the property that brought a huge influx of scientists and casual observers. Being the savvy business people that they were, C & H started to take advantage of the "tourist" element and transformed their old store and gas station into, the stuff that surrounds it. The "amusement parks", for lack of a better definition, eating places all came out of the Fossil find. Thus the Dino theme and the street looking part that runs along side.
That also explains why if you go into Chester and Hesters store you will find a gas pump. They just built everything around the station and never bothered to remove the pump. Makes sense doesn't it? Really, who wouldn't do it that way?
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ewensell3
Well-Known Member
So basically the "highway" was there before Lucky. It was merely a good level path for him to operate on and it was never altered specifically for him.
Goofyernmost
Well-Known Member
To my knowledge, that is correct. If it was modified, I never got that memo.
Only fair to tell you though that they forget to send me a memo almost 100% of the time.I read about that back-story someplace and I honestly don't remember where, so it truly does make sense when one thinks of how they justified what is Dinoland and hopefully helps clear up the oft asked question of "What the hell is that road side carnival doing there?"
ExtinctJenn
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Yes the ride vehicles and queue walls still use the CTX acronym.
Expo_Seeker40
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The large structure is the window and "exterior" of the space station set. The original way it was presented until the 1994 refurb was that you were floating through space and heading inside a space station. Above you was an overhang roof with blinking lights. Behind you was a girl staring out a window and a mechanical arm was protruding from the "exterior" of the space station and attached to a satellite that an astronaut was repairing.
In the 1994 refurb the two satellites were removed, but the astronauts were redressed and refurbished and placed in the FedEx postshow for Space Mountain until it's recent refurb in 2009 (?) when they updated the post show.
The window/set piece has always remained, but was painted over in black paint, including the window itself. You can't see inside of it, but some credible sources say that the animatronic girl was removed and she became Keiko, the girl that was on the videophone with the boy from across the globe in the 1994 refurb. She had the same hairstyle and similar-looking costume and posture as the window girl.
I highly doubt the girl is still there in the window behind black painted glass, the imagineers would need her animatronic parts or use her elsewhere.
Expo_Seeker40
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As you walk toward tomorrowland through the tomorrowland terrace noodle station, you'll notice a small section of the wall that has never changed (except in color scheme). The original WEDway peoplemover support beams are still there, along with the upper level railing and columns and 1970s light fixures. There is also a geometric sign for a giftshop near starlight cafe that is from the original 1970s tomorrowland. Only the graphic sign has changed, but the sign shape is still original.
rct247
Well-Known Member
Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin
-The entrance sign above the front doors is the same entrance sign used for Dreamflight just with a different covering and a few added elements. (Notice the cloud shape to it.)
-Through out the attraction, noticeably in the first and last scenes, you can see the wooden cutouts are cloud shaped and are remnants of Dreamflight.
-The dark room with the pink-ish spinning light dates back to If You Had Wings
-In the volcano room, the alien "puppet" that is caught up in strings to the left of the ride path all alone is actually a reused animatronic prop from Dreamflight. It used to be the man who parachute was stuck in a tree.
Space Mountain
-The music playing just inside the entrance is from the theme song from the 1994 FedEx version of Space Mountain.
-The exit ramp has the same scenes from the 1994 FedEx version of Space Mountain, just re-purposed.
Studio Backlot Tour
-The building behind the large backdrop of the ocean and islands scene from Harbor Attack was part of the Backlot Tour. The tour bridges also still span from that building to Sound Stage 1 and from Toy Story Midway Mania to Captain Jack Sparrow.
-Already noted, but you can find many props from old Epcot including a World of Motion hot air balloon and a Wonders of Life body diagram in the prop warehouse.
Magic of Disney Animation
-In the very back of the unused extended queue for the Magic of Disney Animation sits an open concrete area with some colorful rocks. This was once a meet and greet for characters (probably from Little Mermaid) and before that, it was the original loading area of the Studio Backlot Tour.
American Idol Experience
-The sign above the stairs to the original entrance to the theater still states "Superstar Theater" paying homage to the original attraction Superstar Television.
Toy Story Midway Mania
-On the Fastpass Return sign, there is a blank strip of "tape" that used to say "Single Rider Line". Due to the high demand of single rider line and the low capacity, it was later removed.
Pleasure Island - Downtown Disney- Outside the entrance areas to the Pleasure Island district still sit the ticket sale cabooses where guests would by admission tickets.
Tomorrowland Speedway-Cast member costumes still have the Tomorrowland INDY Speedway logo on the back of their costume.
Monsters Inc Laugh Floor-The queue still contains many aspects of when it was Timekeeper including the chandelier lights, bubble water tube/columns, etc.
Tinkerbell's Magical Nook/Pixie Hollow-A careful observer might notice architecture that still remains from the interior when it was the Adventureland Veranda Restaurant.
Pirates of the Caribbean-Careful observers will also be able to pick out the original entrance to Pirates (located on the side near the clock tower).
Test Track-Quite obvious, but many of the props along the ride path are remnants of Test Track 1.0 including most of the same pine trees, the semi, and the guardrails.
Tower of Terror
-Just inside the entrance gates to the right is a sundial that used to have a posted wait from from that point.
Hollywood Brown Derby
-Next to the restaurants restrooms is a blocked off stairway and an elevator that used to take you to the Catwalk Bar.
Splash Mountain
-A keen eye can located the original entrance queue line that went behind the Briar Patch gift shop.
Tom Sawyer's Island-Pull up a rocking chair and watch the banks of Liberty Square from the old Aunt Poly's restaurant/snack stand.
Epcot Festival Center
-Aside from the entire building being a trace of history, you can still find the theater for The Making of Me, the entrance area for Body Wars, and the marque area for Cranium Command.
Magic Kingdom Toll Plaza-The Magic Kingdom sign that sits above the Toll Plaza originally was the entrance archway for the Wonders of Life pavilion at Epcot.
Kali River Rapids
-Although it's getting harder and harder to find, you can still find traces of the original entrance to Kali River Rapids near the Monkey exhibit and restrooms near Expedition Everest.
Captain EO-Near the jumping fountains and between the entrance and exit of the attraction is an unused gift shop.
Innoventions-The old Segway area is still intact even though the exhibit is gone. Before it left, you could still find the original dome where a preshow was originally show. Along the back wall you can also find references of Epcot with the 2000/Epcot wand.
Disney's Hollywood Studios Arch into Animation Courtyard
-Look careful at the intricate details of that make up the arch and you will find many nods to the park's past.
Haunted Mansion
-Guests in the super extended line can get a glimpse of the loading dock for the Mike Fink Boats.
-In the building to the left of the Haunted Mansion entrance gates, you can look on the ground to find electrical box covers for the Fastpass machines that used to be for Haunted Mansion.
Tomorrowland Transit Authority Peoplemover
-The Peoplemover sign above the entrance and exit ramps is the same sign that used to say "Wedway Peoplemover" on the second level above the Unload area only repurposed.
-Just after the City of Tomorrow Epcot model is a show scene on the right that includes references to the "Green Line" and the "Red Line" referring to the original storyline of the "Tomorrowland Transit Authority" of 1994.
Carousel of Progress
-When entering the turnstiles at the Carousel of Progress, look the far right to find an unused queue area that was once used when the Carousel of Progress was first built.
-The entrance sign above the front doors is the same entrance sign used for Dreamflight just with a different covering and a few added elements. (Notice the cloud shape to it.)
-Through out the attraction, noticeably in the first and last scenes, you can see the wooden cutouts are cloud shaped and are remnants of Dreamflight.
-The dark room with the pink-ish spinning light dates back to If You Had Wings
-In the volcano room, the alien "puppet" that is caught up in strings to the left of the ride path all alone is actually a reused animatronic prop from Dreamflight. It used to be the man who parachute was stuck in a tree.
Space Mountain
-The music playing just inside the entrance is from the theme song from the 1994 FedEx version of Space Mountain.
-The exit ramp has the same scenes from the 1994 FedEx version of Space Mountain, just re-purposed.
Studio Backlot Tour
-The building behind the large backdrop of the ocean and islands scene from Harbor Attack was part of the Backlot Tour. The tour bridges also still span from that building to Sound Stage 1 and from Toy Story Midway Mania to Captain Jack Sparrow.
-Already noted, but you can find many props from old Epcot including a World of Motion hot air balloon and a Wonders of Life body diagram in the prop warehouse.
Magic of Disney Animation
-In the very back of the unused extended queue for the Magic of Disney Animation sits an open concrete area with some colorful rocks. This was once a meet and greet for characters (probably from Little Mermaid) and before that, it was the original loading area of the Studio Backlot Tour.
American Idol Experience
-The sign above the stairs to the original entrance to the theater still states "Superstar Theater" paying homage to the original attraction Superstar Television.
Toy Story Midway Mania
-On the Fastpass Return sign, there is a blank strip of "tape" that used to say "Single Rider Line". Due to the high demand of single rider line and the low capacity, it was later removed.
Pleasure Island - Downtown Disney- Outside the entrance areas to the Pleasure Island district still sit the ticket sale cabooses where guests would by admission tickets.
Tomorrowland Speedway-Cast member costumes still have the Tomorrowland INDY Speedway logo on the back of their costume.
Monsters Inc Laugh Floor-The queue still contains many aspects of when it was Timekeeper including the chandelier lights, bubble water tube/columns, etc.
Tinkerbell's Magical Nook/Pixie Hollow-A careful observer might notice architecture that still remains from the interior when it was the Adventureland Veranda Restaurant.
Pirates of the Caribbean-Careful observers will also be able to pick out the original entrance to Pirates (located on the side near the clock tower).
Test Track-Quite obvious, but many of the props along the ride path are remnants of Test Track 1.0 including most of the same pine trees, the semi, and the guardrails.
Tower of Terror
-Just inside the entrance gates to the right is a sundial that used to have a posted wait from from that point.
Hollywood Brown Derby
-Next to the restaurants restrooms is a blocked off stairway and an elevator that used to take you to the Catwalk Bar.
Splash Mountain
-A keen eye can located the original entrance queue line that went behind the Briar Patch gift shop.
Tom Sawyer's Island-Pull up a rocking chair and watch the banks of Liberty Square from the old Aunt Poly's restaurant/snack stand.
Epcot Festival Center
-Aside from the entire building being a trace of history, you can still find the theater for The Making of Me, the entrance area for Body Wars, and the marque area for Cranium Command.
Magic Kingdom Toll Plaza-The Magic Kingdom sign that sits above the Toll Plaza originally was the entrance archway for the Wonders of Life pavilion at Epcot.
Kali River Rapids
-Although it's getting harder and harder to find, you can still find traces of the original entrance to Kali River Rapids near the Monkey exhibit and restrooms near Expedition Everest.
Captain EO-Near the jumping fountains and between the entrance and exit of the attraction is an unused gift shop.
Innoventions-The old Segway area is still intact even though the exhibit is gone. Before it left, you could still find the original dome where a preshow was originally show. Along the back wall you can also find references of Epcot with the 2000/Epcot wand.
Disney's Hollywood Studios Arch into Animation Courtyard
-Look careful at the intricate details of that make up the arch and you will find many nods to the park's past.
Haunted Mansion
-Guests in the super extended line can get a glimpse of the loading dock for the Mike Fink Boats.
-In the building to the left of the Haunted Mansion entrance gates, you can look on the ground to find electrical box covers for the Fastpass machines that used to be for Haunted Mansion.
Tomorrowland Transit Authority Peoplemover
-The Peoplemover sign above the entrance and exit ramps is the same sign that used to say "Wedway Peoplemover" on the second level above the Unload area only repurposed.
-Just after the City of Tomorrow Epcot model is a show scene on the right that includes references to the "Green Line" and the "Red Line" referring to the original storyline of the "Tomorrowland Transit Authority" of 1994.
Carousel of Progress
-When entering the turnstiles at the Carousel of Progress, look the far right to find an unused queue area that was once used when the Carousel of Progress was first built.
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NiarrNDisney
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I have to second that it's a great book but does come across as a little dry.
yoyoflamingo
Well-Known Member
The Sea Serpent from the World of Motion used to sit in the Backlot of DCA for a few years. I believe he's gone now though...
And here's some more about the Plaza Swan Boat discussion, especially the bottom of the article in regards to the tow line.
And here's some more about the Plaza Swan Boat discussion, especially the bottom of the article in regards to the tow line.