Traces of history that shouldn't be there

pumpkin7

Well-Known Member
There are some artifacts still left in SSE, girl in the window is the first that comes to mind.

The thought of her still being there creeps me out. Has anyone managed to get a flash photo up there? There's a massive structure too which I think must house the projector but I'm sure a projector ain't that big...
 

pumpkin7

Well-Known Member
If you are interested in remnants from attractions past, @KevinYee wrote a fine book about it. A bit dry and meant for the serious more than the casual fan. It is actually pretty good and comprehensive. Am reading it as we speak. Mind it is just an encyclopaedic collection of half-page entries, not a properly readable page-turner.

http://www.amazon.com/Walt-Disney-World-Hidden-History/dp/0983159904

I've read that. Unfortunately I already knew a lot of the info in there.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
The thought of her still being there creeps me out. Has anyone managed to get a flash photo up there? There's a massive structure too which I think must house the projector but I'm sure a projector ain't that big...
All I have seen is very blurry night vision shots.
 

Monorail Mike

Well-Known Member
The biggest one I can think of right now is the old WorldKey kiosks near Epcot Guest Relations. A bit more obscure are the remains of the Fort Wilderness Railroad. Then there's the whole Millenium Village thing, but don't get me started on that...
 

ExtinctJenn

Well-Known Member
Here's some I'm aware of that still exist (or did until recently) with some info taken from my site. Some of these are more homages than pieces of history left behind but worth sharing. Apologies in advance if any are duplicates to stuff already mentioned here!
  1. Plaza Swan Boats - Two structures that were part of the attraction still exist. The first of these structures is the original loading dock for the boats, now an outdoor seating area just outside the Plaza Restaurant. Located between Cinderella Castle and Tomorrowland is the second piece of the attraction’s history: A shady seating area at the water’s edge with a green roof, which was originally built as the Swan Boat’s second and permanent loading dock. The former entrance to the attraction is what many guests now recognize as the Rose Garden.
  2. Alien Encounter (etc.) - Stitch's Great Escape technically uses the same Preshow elements just with new theming and a new "body" for the main guy in the middle. Additionally, the tube and general animatronic electronics were reused from one to the other. The theater is also still the exact same theater from the orignal attraction in this space (Flight to the Moon) that was reused for each attraction that has lived there since with only minor modifications. The screen in the middle of the floor was removed when Alien came in but was reused for Mission to Mars. References to X-S Tech were made in the extremely short-lived Tomorrowland attraction “Stitch’s Supersonic Celebration” as well as a game at Disney Quest. Additionally, some of the props from Alien Encounter can be seen in the new Stitch version of the attraction.
  3. Skyway - The actual ride load area of the Tomorrowland station wasn't demolished until the summer of 2009 but the restrooms in Tomorrowland are technically the base of the building that once fed this attraction.
  4. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea - She 2009 post-show modifications to Space Mountain included references to both Horizons and 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. Additionally there is a homage to the attraction both in the tree formerly located in Pooh's Playful spot (sub engraved inside) as well as Little Mermaid (sub engraved in rock). Additionally, one of the old subs was sunk by Castaway Cay (but I believe has since been removed).
  5. Mr. Toad - Pooh features two tributes to what originally filled it's space. One in the form of a painting of Toad handing over the deed to Owl, the other a painting of Mole and Pooh. Additionally, a statue of Toad can be found in the Pet Cemetery of the Haunted Mansion. It is rumored that on the statue is a well hidden epitaph that reads "Here Lies Toad, It's sad but true. He wasn't as marketable as Winnie the Pooh!"
  6. Richard F. Irvine Riverboat - An original riverboat that eventually became the Liberty Belle we all know and love today.
  7. Keel Boats - The old loading dock still exists today and the queue entrance was used as a Fast Pass distribution area for some time. In early 2011, while the Haunted Mansion queue was being refurbished, long waits at the Haunted Mansion resulted in queue lines being snaked down the path toward the loading dock along the Rivers of America. There is a Keel Boat docked along the rivers of America but it's simply an homage and not an original.
  8. ImageWorks (mentioned already) is an obvious one at Epcot... especially because the majority of the "attractions" are still up there just collecting dust and slowly falling apart.
  9. Journey Into Imagination - One of the original Dreamcatcher props is hanging in Mouse Gears.
  10. Food Rocks - The theater for the show and most of the props actually still exists and is sitting behind a Soarin' queue wall collecting dust. The animatronics were actually all there until fairly recently as well.
  11. Cranium Command - Until a year or so ago the entire theater including the Buzzy AA was still sitting collecting dust.
  12. Wonders of Life Pavilion - In general there are a ton of the original pieces of this pavilion still there but repainted and reused for special events. This could be a really long list itself.
  13. Seacabs - Technically the original Seacabs attraction is what was brought back to life as Nemo. The ride vehicles themselves were updated but the track you follow is exactly the same. Behind a lot of walls still exist windows looking out into the aquarium in fact.
  14. Horizons - Many of the props from the attraction still live on in second lives at other Disney parks. At WDW there are references in Space Mountain, Mission: SPACE (logo in the center of the wheel in the queue as well as on the check-out counter of the gift shop), Star Tours, and at Disneyland there are references in Innoventions. Additionally, a flower bed in front of the Mission: SPACE attraction closely resembles the shape of the logo/building.
  15. Spaceship Earth - Until the last refurb the satellite that hung from the ceiling as you began your descent was still there and just painted black.
  16. Magic of Disney Animation - Technically this attraction still exists but it's original form was soooo different. I mention this because technically the building now used for a lot of M&Gs is a trace of history... it was the animation studio where you could watch real animators working on real films.
  17. River Boats (DAK) - The docks and queue areas still exist, one most recently used as a M&G location.
  18. Countdown to Extinction - The Dinosaur ride vehicles and queue both contain references to CTX.
Ok I think that's good for now. Sorry... a topic I hold dear so I can get babbling on it! LOL
 

vonpluto

Well-Known Member
Does the Catwalk Bar still hang above Disney Junior in Soundstage Five?

Is inflatable Mickey from Sorcery in the Sky still on the roof of GMR?
 

ExtinctJenn

Well-Known Member
Wow! Are you positive Buzzy is gone along with the rest of his theater?
Well, being positive for me would only come in the form of seeing the gutted space for myself so I suppose my answer to the question is no but about a year or so ago I saw a shot of Buzzy and the theater after an acquaintance illegally snuck backstage and found his way in. A few months later construction/demolition was announced at the pavilion and it was reported to potentially include the remaining props from attractions like CC. I've yet to find someone who has found their way back there to check since. :)
 

Big C 73

Well-Known Member
The Swan Boats were never on a track. They were steered by the skipper driving it.
There were side bumpers in a few places to guide the boats through narrow spots under bridges, but those were removed quite a few years ago.

-Rob

Check out these pictures from the early 70s when the Swan Boats first opened.

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See what looks like a track and tow line? I thought this was interesting because I thought they were freely operated, or were they in the beginning?
 

jl2081

Active Member
One big trace I can think of is Pop Century's The Legendary Years hotel that is now the Art Of Animation. Another one is the runway next to MK's parking lot now being used as parking for busses and storage for containers.
 

jl2081

Active Member
You can see that they used the same buildings on the lion king side that they started building many years ago. They look a little different than the rest of the buildings. Also animation hall is an original building as well. You used to be able to see the old buildings on google earth and the footprints of future buildings but google as since updated and you see the new hotel.
 

Monorail Mike

Well-Known Member
I just thought of another one..... the unfinished Walk Around the World. The path ends just west of the Magic Kingdom. Never made it all the way around the 7 seas lagoon like originally planned!
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Check out these pictures from the early 70s when the Swan Boats first opened.

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See what looks like a track and tow line? I thought this was interesting because I thought they were freely operated, or were they in the beginning?
There was always a track for the Swan Boats just as there is a track for the Jungle Cruise and the Riverboat.

As far as the tow line...The boats were individually propelled so maybe the tow line was a one time deal in order to take these publicity shots.
 

Rob562

Well-Known Member
There was always a track for the Swan Boats just as there is a track for the Jungle Cruise and the Riverboat.

As far as the tow line...The boats were individually propelled so maybe the tow line was a one time deal in order to take these publicity shots.

Sorry, but there was not a track, unless you count the original electric-guided system that failed.

Lots of info here:
http://www.omniluxe.net/wyw/psb.htm

From the page:
The Swan Boats were powered by natural gas engines, and were originally designed to run with an electric guidance system. That system failed early in the attraction's life span and gave way to a new steering mechanism: two jets of water below the hull (one in front, one in back) that could swivel 360 degrees and thereby propel the boat in any direction, even in circles. Each jet was controlled by a separate steering wheel on a console at the rear of the boat. Accounts of the boats running into the concrete shoreline, pylons and other obstacles are common. The thought of these delicate-looking craft spinning out of control and crashing into things seems incongruous, but it also seems pretty funny.

-Rob
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Sorry, but there was not a track, unless you count the original electric-guided system that failed.

Lots of info here:
http://www.omniluxe.net/wyw/psb.htm

From the page:


-Rob
Perhaps I am mistaken, but I seem to remember guide rails that kept the boats from running into the banks.

Maybe not TRACKS per se, but a safety rail if you will.


Then again, I was pretty young, so my memory maybe playing tricks with me.
 

Rob562

Well-Known Member
Perhaps I am mistaken, but I seem to remember guide rails that kept the boats from running into the banks.

Maybe not TRACKS per se, but a safety rail if you will.


Then again, I was pretty young, so my memory maybe playing tricks with me.

There were a few rails/bumpers to guide them through narrow points, but that was about it.

-Rob
 

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