Toy Story Land expansion announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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Why are they advertising summer 2018 when all indications are that it will be complete way before then?

My guess is that by 'summer' they mean 'Memorial Day Weekend' which is the beginning of the tourist summer season. They like to do grand openings on MDW, and MDW was probably their target date before they decided to pull the trigger on the GMR -> MMRR conversion. With the GMR out of commission, they are now hurrying to get TSL done. And if they get it done way ahead of schedule, they look good. They can do lots of previews with press, APs, DVCs, and cast to generate buzz. Then they can do soft openings. Then they'll be ready to go 100% for a grand opening on MDW.

But, that's just a guess.
 

lvsdisney

New Member
My guess is that by 'summer' they mean 'Memorial Day Weekend' which is the beginning of the tourist summer season. They like to do grand openings on MDW, and MDW was probably their target date before they decided to pull the trigger on the GMR -> MMRR conversion. With the GMR out of commission, they are now hurrying to get TSL done. And if they get it done way ahead of schedule, they look good. They can do lots of previews with press, APs, DVCs, and cast to generate buzz. Then they can do soft openings. Then they'll be ready to go 100% for a grand opening on MDW.

But, that's just a guess.

We'll be there beginning of May and I keep going back and forth over wishing it was open because we'll probably not be back for a few more years or wishing it wasn't open because I don't want to deal with the extra traffic in DHS.I'll gladly accept previews, but I won't count on them!
 

Rich T

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So Toy Story Land is just another Hester and Chester. Nice going, TDO! :rolleyes::p
Now, you *know* that's not true. Primeval Whirl and T-Spin are off-the-shelf order-from-Amazon rides. Slinky's a unique coaster design and the Saucer ride, like Mater's JYJ, is a Disney original (and it's excellent!). TSL ain't Cars Land, but it looks like a pleasant addition to the studios.
 
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Magenta Panther

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Now, you *know* that's not true. Primeval Whirl and T-Spin are off-the-shelf order-from-Amazon rides. Slinky's a unique coaster design and the Saucer ride, like Mater's JYB, is a Disney original (and it's excellent!). TSL ain't Cars Land, but it looks like a pleasant addition to the studios.

I hope you're right, because I love the Toy Story movies.
 

RSoxNo1

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Yeah, the Chester/Hester declaration is a bit premature. This looks/feels more like Storybook Circus to me. None of these are remotely close to the best that Disney can do, but it's not the worst. This is a "filler" land to round out the attraction lineup for the park. It should have had another B/C-ticket in the land, but oh well.
 

Magenta Panther

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You sure do have a funny way of expressing your love of Toy Story. The only thing I can think is that your "love" is dependent on meeting certain criteria set by you.

Set by Walt, actually. And very damn little of what I'm seeing from TDO these days meets those standards. I make no apology for my criteria regarding the parks. If TDO keeps gouging, cutting corners, and cynically exploiting the Disney love of their guests, then I'm out. There's always Disneyland and Universal.
 
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Casper Gutman

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Yeah, the Chester/Hester declaration is a bit premature. This looks/feels more like Storybook Circus to me. None of these are remotely close to the best that Disney can do, but it's not the worst. This is a "filler" land to round out the attraction lineup for the park. It should have had another B/C-ticket in the land, but oh well.
Yeah, the comparison isn't really fair to Chester/Hester. That area is thematically coherent, appropriate and even witty in the context of Dinoland as a whole. Plus, it's part of a land that has a genuine E-ticket as well as one of the best shows on property (a show that doesn't necessarily belong in that land, but still). Finally, Chester/Hester was almost half of a long-promised, supposedly park-saving makeover for a theme park that was incomplete at opening and has remained that way for decades.

Storybook Circus gets a pass because it replaced something that was considerably worse - and was part of the makeover of a single LAND (not a whole park, mind you) that added a major restaurant, a borderline E-Ticket (that should have been longer) and an unfairly maligned D-Ticket.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Yeah, the comparison isn't really fair to Chester/Hester. That area is thematically coherent, appropriate and even witty in the context of Dinoland as a whole. Plus, it's part of a land that has a genuine E-ticket as well as one of the best shows on property (a show that doesn't necessarily belong in that land, but still). Finally, Chester/Hester was almost half of a long-promised, supposedly park-saving makeover for a theme park that was incomplete at opening and has remained that way for decades.

Storybook Circus gets a pass because it replaced something that was considerably worse - and was part of the makeover of a single LAND (not a whole park, mind you) that added a major restaurant, a borderline E-Ticket (that should have been longer) and an unfairly maligned D-Ticket.

Dinosaur is a lousy E-Ticket. Two-thirds of the ride is being violently shaken in the dark. Between that and Primeval Whirl, it's like they really really want you to break your spine.

And if you're giving a pass to Storybook because it's better than what it's replaced, then I'm sure you'll want to extend that same dispensation to TSL which is replacing part of Back Lot Tour -- which had grown moribund -- and actual back lot area which was useless to guests as an attraction/ride.
 

Casper Gutman

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Dinosaur is a lousy E-Ticket. Two-thirds of the ride is being violently shaken in the dark. Between that and Primeval Whirl, it's like they really really want you to break your spine.

And if you're giving a pass to Storybook because it's better than what it's replaced, then I'm sure you'll want to extend that same dispensation to TSL which is replacing part of Back Lot Tour -- which had grown moribund -- and actual back lot area which was useless to guests as an attraction/ride.
Dino isn't a classic but it's considerably better than TSMM.

Back Lot Tour, when it opened, was a strong attraction. It hadn't "grown moribund," WDW management made decisions that chipped away at it and let it decay to an absurd degree, which is their pattern - fail to maintain an attraction and then close it. But again, Storybook was part of a redesign of a LAND in a park that was already complete. If TSL wasn't almost HALF of a "major makeover" of an entire park that has been incomplete for decades, it could be dismissed as a half-hearted addition in the vein of the original Birthdayland. It would still be lousy and grossly overpriced, but it wouldn't be as egregious.
 

Goofyernmost

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Back Lot Tour, when it opened, was a strong attraction. It hadn't "grown moribund," WDW management made decisions that chipped away at it and let it decay to an absurd degree, which is their pattern - fail to maintain an attraction and then close it.
I'm guessing that the one decision to close the actual studio had nothing to do with the demise of the back lot tour? I mean, really, they could have just left it alone even if you can't have a back lot if you don't have a working studio. It is a stretch for even the most fertile of imaginations. The truth was that even when it was a working studio, the back lot tour, in the ride form portion that you are thinking about, sucked. Even in early years the graveyard consisted of stuff that was mostly old history, rusty, nasty looking and boring. So it wasn't hard for it to "grow moribund" since it started out that way.
 

Goofyernmost

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Corrected that for you :D
Compared to the back lot tour at Universal in California, it sucked so bad that it became the reason for the vacuum in space.

So if that was what they were attempting to copy when it was built, they failed miserably. How many times could one go through the tunnel and see a huge group of no one working in costuming before that glitter wore off. Combined with the walk through portion, it was overall a good tour. Without it.... blah! Catastrophe Canyon was pretty good but that damn truck never did slide down into the tram so it became pretty predictable. After a while I would ride on it just to convince first timers to sit on the left side of the tram. I'd tell them that the best vantage point was on that side and because I had ridden it many times I'd switch with them. In the right spot that left side got a pretty good spray of water on that ride. That was more amusing to me then the ride itself.
 

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