Toy Story Land expansion announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

FigmentForver96

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Maybe they'll learn from their mistakes.

If they didn't, this whole DHS expansion is a complete waste.

An very cheap land that should have gone into better detail, and a land about people in bathrobes in outer space and explosions with devilish-like creatures.
The Star Wars expansion will not be a waste. Your disdain for the series does not take away from it's strong popularity and the fact two big rides are coming.
 

Jones14

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This may have been answered before, but @marni1971 @MansionButler84 do either of you know how long, if at all, Toy Story Mania will need to be closed to be connected to the rest of Toy Story Land? Because if it's true, and with Great Movie Ride going down soon, that means there's a day not far off when we'll be going back to early 1990 in terms of ride count, at least for a little while. With 2016 admission pricing, of course.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
This may have been answered before, but @marni1971 @MansionButler84 do either of you know how long, if at all, Toy Story Mania will need to be closed to be connected to the rest of Toy Story Land? Because if it's true, and with Great Movie Ride going down soon, that means there's a day not far off when we'll be going back to early 1990 in terms of ride count, at least for a little while. With 2016 admission pricing, of course.
I'm no insider, but there's just no way they could take both TSMM and GMR down at the same time, at least not for an extended period of time. It's borderline criminal already that they charge $100 for that park without taking 2 headliners out. I'm curious to see how they handle that situation and that doesn't even account for a potential Guardians to Tower move.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
This may have been answered before, but @marni1971 @MansionButler84 do either of you know how long, if at all, Toy Story Mania will need to be closed to be connected to the rest of Toy Story Land? Because if it's true, and with Great Movie Ride going down soon, that means there's a day not far off when we'll be going back to early 1990 in terms of ride count, at least for a little while. With 2016 admission pricing, of course.
In theory it could be done third shift albeit with some park hours disruption.

In practice I don't know.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
What a mess they've created for themselves! Shouldn't have rested on their laurels for nearly a decade.
Yep. The timing is just terrible. If they planned ahead they could have added additional capacity first before shutting down the back half of the park. They could have expanded Pixar Place and changed GMR and replaced Indy Stunt Show (along with the expansion pad) with another land. Then they could have shut down the backlot tour and killed the whole movie studio theme and done SW Land where it sits now. Then the rest of the park would have been bulked up already so the missing capacity wouldn't seem so bad.

Of course this all would have had to start about 10 years ago...when they weren't doing anything with WDW.
 

MagicHappens1971

Well-Known Member
This may have been answered before, but @marni1971 @MansionButler84 do either of you know how long, if at all, Toy Story Mania will need to be closed to be connected to the rest of Toy Story Land? Because if it's true, and with Great Movie Ride going down soon, that means there's a day not far off when we'll be going back to early 1990 in terms of ride count, at least for a little while. With 2016 admission pricing, of course.
Hypothetically, as stated above I'm sure it could be done during third shift, however I don't think that is the route Disney will choose. Mostly because I don't think they could completely connect it in one night and I think it would disrupt operations enough to warrant the closure. Also, this may be a bad assumption, but I feel like the queue is going to be rethemed.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Hypothetically, as stated above I'm sure it could be done during third shift, however I don't think that is the route Disney will choose. Mostly because I don't think they could completely connect it in one night and I think it would disrupt operations enough to warrant the closure. Also, this may be a bad assumption, but I feel like the queue is going to be rethemed.

When they were adding the third track there was, if I recall correctly, just one or two days of ride shut-down about a month or two before it opened and then one day (which became two) of shut down when it finally opened.

DHS has the advantage of shunting almost the entirety of the queue to a snaking line in Pixar way while they're reconfiguring the queue. Even if the idle construction site is covered in tarp by day with an outside line and then doing the construction work late at night, there really shouldn't be more than a few days of shutdown for final conversion... if history is any indication.
 

roj2323

Well-Known Member
Sigh. And I would've bought it all. They should've kept Anty and a few grass stalks for a photo-op, not to mention the grass for TSL alone.

You would have wanted to soak that stuff in bleach for at least a week. Seriously they had been pooped and peed on and bleed on so often that even with an occasional power washing and Neutral Disinfectant soak there was no way to make sure that area was 100% "clean"
 

RSoxNo1

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It depends on what you mean by mistakes. If you mean the ride lineup it seems like the DHS version will have considerably more meat to it (especially if you include TSMM as part of the land even though it was already there). It really had to being that the crowd levels are considerably higher and the ride lineup in Paris is low capacity.

If you mean the overall theme and look of the land, it seems like it might be pretty similar with the theme of being shrunk down in Andy's backyard with oversized toys.
Here's the Paris version:
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And here's the concept art for DHS:
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The tinker toy Lights and oversized toy theme is very similar. It's a matter of personal preference. A lot of people don't like the overall concept.
As a concept, oversized toys doesn't lend itself to great themed area much in the same way as the Dinorama road side carnival isn't a great theme either. They can execute a poor theme well, but it doesn't make for a good land. What makes a good land is a good theme executed well. That gets you Diagon Alley, Cars Land, Africa, Mysterious Island, etc.
 

Pi on my Cake

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
Sigh. And I would've bought it all. They should've kept Anty and a few grass stalks for a photo-op, not to mention the grass for TSL alone.
They would be at different scale. Assuming you are supposed to be about the same size of Ham (shorter than buzz and woody statues), ants and grass wouldn't be that huge. Ants would still be much smaller than guests and grass would be shoulder height on adults at the absolute most (assuming Andy doesn't mow the lawn often.)
 

HauntedMansionFLA

Well-Known Member
As a concept, oversized toys doesn't lend itself to great themed area much in the same way as the Dinorama road side carnival isn't a great theme either. They can execute a poor theme well, but it doesn't make for a good land. What makes a good land is a good theme executed well. That gets you Diagon Alley, Cars Land, Africa, Mysterious Island, etc.
I like the crisp, clean brick buildings in Pixar Place. I would have preferred Disney went with using a bunch of their Pixar IP's with the present look with several attractions. But it looks like it's Toy Story all the way.
 

Pam Hates Penguins

Well-Known Member
The Star Wars expansion will not be a waste. Your disdain for the series does not take away from it's strong popularity and the fact two big rides are coming.

That's true. My opinions will not change that. But it's an enormous loss of long standing Disney themed areas.

If they were to actually change the entryway to the theme park's parking lot allowing the unused swampland to be SWL, that would be different.
 

DinoInstitute

Well-Known Member
Question I haven't really thought about yet (and there also may not be an answer at this time), but I wonder how these rides will effect the Fastpass system in the park. Specifically if it will eliminate the tiers. I think Slinky might help alleviate some of the FPs for thrill rides and Midway Mania, so it's certainly possible, but if GMR/ToT go down then we could end up stuck with them for longer.
 

doctornick

Well-Known Member
Question I haven't really thought about yet (and there also may not be an answer at this time), but I wonder how these rides will effect the Fastpass system in the park. Specifically if it will eliminate the tiers. I think Slinky might help alleviate some of the FPs for thrill rides and Midway Mania, so it's certainly possible, but if GMR/ToT go down then we could end up stuck with them for longer.

I don't think we'll lose tiers at DHS until Star Wars opens.
 

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