Toy Story Land expansion announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

Thanks phoenicians

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My problem with this whole thing is that even if they announce a much better version of TSL at D23 there's no way it'll be open that time the following year in 2018. Unless it gets approved asap and they build but just hold off the announcement til next year. Either way they just seem too far behind
 

dm11

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4 rides + 2 meet and greets + 1 show + 1 nighttime spectacular = 8 experiences and a statistically happy guest
I thought the number was 9? As in "9 experiences and a statistically happy guest = 7 rides + 1 show + 1 nighttime spectacular"? I didn't think they counted M&G's into this but maybe I am wrong?
 

dm11

Active Member
Btw, there ARE more than 9 total experiences in DHS (without M&G's) but I think the number is misleading.

Rides:
Star Tours
Toy Story Mania
The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror
Rock 'n' Roller Coaster
The Great Movie Ride

Shows:
Indiana Jones Epic Stunt
Beauty and the Beast
Frozen Sing-Along
Disney Junior - Live on Stage!
Jedi Training
Voyage of the Little Mermaid
Muppet*Vision 3D

Nighttime Spectacular:
Fantasmic!
Star Wars A Galactic Spectacular

There are enough Shows (7) and Nighttime Spectaculars (2) to chose from. Some of them definitely need some love but quantity is there. Rides however are completely different story. There are exactly 5 of them and when GMR closes it will be exactly 4! And 2 of those are thrill rides (ToT and RnRC) which will not appeal to every guest (myself included - I like certain types of thrill rides and unfortunately these two do not belong to that category). So some people will be literally left with 2 rides: Star Tours and TSM!

I am not convinced that even all of the announced stuff will fully fix the problem: 2 rides in TSL, 2 rides in SWE and GMR replacement. That brings total to 7 non-thrill rides (or 9 when including ToT and RnRC). Technically just the right number, reality is that is still too low. Problem being again that there is no choice - you still have to do every single ride in order to get to that magic number.
 

HauntedMansionFLA

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I'm just wondering, has Disney ever publicly announced something and then completely scrapped the plans later on?
Actually, didn't Walt Disney have a totally different plan for EPCOT?
 

Nickels5

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Monsters Coaster.

Flat alien spinny thing if they really need to.

D class dark ride.

Proper F&B location.

Bingo. A proper mini land with actual capacity.

(My wishful thinking)
I know you can't say much but have you heard anything about them changing the original plans to Tsl? It seems like such a missed opportunity, I would be fine if they wanted to keep it all toy story but it needs at least 1 to 2 more rides.
 

Princess Leia

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Monsters Coaster.

Flat alien spinny thing if they really need to.

D class dark ride.

Proper F&B location.

Bingo. A proper mini land with actual capacity.

(My wishful thinking)

Would you want Laugh Floor to move over to DHS as well? I think it would be a pretty decent addition next to the door coaster (idk what they'd put in the Laugh Floor space in Tomorrowland though).
 

CaptainAmerica

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Actually, didn't Walt Disney have a totally different plan for EPCOT?
"Companies like Disney are always founded by creative entrepreneurs, but eventually the founder dies or gets pushed out, or moves on to something else. Inevitably the businesspeople take over--the managers--and they focus on preserving the vision that made the company great in the first place. They don't have any creative ideas themselves and they end up surrounding themselves instead with analysts and accountants to try to control the creative people and cut costs. In the process, they discourage change and new initiatives and reinvention. In time, the company begins to ossify and atrophy and die. It's important to have financial parameters and never to bet the house... but in a creative business you also have to be willing to take chances and even to fail sometimes, because otherwise nothing innovative is ever going to happen. If your'e only comfortable running a business by the numbers, I can understand that. But then you shouldn't get involved with a creatively driven company like Disney."
-Michael Eisner
 

DinoInstitute

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@marni1971 You may or may not have an answer to this question, but is there in fact a legitimate possibility that this land gets scrapped for a different concept (specifically a Pixar Land)?

I mean, I'm still excited for TSL and think it will be fun, but the more I think about it, the more I realize that it's really not a wise choice of a land for this park. I say this because A) there's really not a whole lot of potential for expansion with this concept many years down the road, and B) in a park whose focus seems to be taking a journey and experience into the movies, it seems weird to only have 2 franchises represented- Star Wars and Toy Story (you could also kinda count Muppets and Indiana Jones, though their futures aren't guaranteed). With a Pixar Land, there's limitless possibilities for experiencing classic worlds shown in the movies.

Not to mention, even aside from what the theme of the land is, the attraction roster again just doesn't feel very wise. Neither of the new attractions are without a height limit, which is weird because you'd think this land would want to provide more things for the young ones to do. In addition, there's no real high capacity people eaters, another thing this park needs.
 

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