Toy Story Land expansion announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

[Cesar R M]

Well that's just unfair. You know just as well as I that many people will think it's beautiful and many won't. If you won't take her seriously, at least respect her opinion.

wouldn't be an issue if she wasn't confronting others left and right with childish tirades.
which is pretty much by the book trolling.

 

[Cesar R M]

Why would Disney lower prices if people still pay the high ones?

The point is building more efficiently. cutting down is not efficient. They are just reducing what was ordered. The price is still bloated for WDI.
if WDI could loose some of the ridiculous overpricing (that strange building fatness), they could have build more efficiently with increased quantities.
Why settle for severely cut down attraction if you could have the full thing for the same price if you trimmed the fat.

 

[KingOfEpicocity]

The point is building more efficiently. cutting down is not efficient. They are just reducing what was ordered. The price is still bloated for WDI.
if WDI could loose some of the ridiculous overpricing (that strange building fatness), they could have build more efficiently with increased quantities.
Why settle for severely cut down attraction if you could have the full thing for the same price if you trimmed the fat.

Yet I find it interesting that even with raised prices, they still make cuts. How will lowering prices help that exactly?

 

[Andrew C]

I am often bemused by her posts. Like when she says the she thinks TSL is going to be beeaauuutttiiffffuuuullllll!!!!!!! A sane person would see that as sarcasm. Knowing her Disney affliction, I believe she means it.

What I see in TSL is an inexcusably garish assault to ones eyeballs. "Beautiful" isn't the word that immediately pops to mind.

Haha. You like to use the word garish a lot.

 

[lazyboy97o]

The point is building more efficiently. cutting down is not efficient. They are just reducing what was ordered. The price is still bloated for WDI.
if WDI could loose some of the ridiculous overpricing (that strange building fatness), they could have build more efficiently with increased quantities.
Why settle for severely cut down attraction if you could have the full thing for the same price if you trimmed the fat.

Efficiency cannot just be demanded. A strong understanding of the inefficiencies must be the starting point. The demands are coming from people with no experience in themed entertainment or building.

Yet I find it interesting that even with raised prices, they still make cuts. How will lowering prices help that exactly?

He's talking about the costs associated with Walt Disney Imagineering, not in-park pricing.

 

[PhotoDave219]

I see we have many threads on this forum that have been disrupted by a poster, only to make that poster the topic of conversation.....

So is anything new with this project? Toy Story Land, I mean.

 

[PhotoDave219]

There were indeed quite large.

But the original budget pitch was ludicrous.

I'm generally in favor of going Ludicrous.

You should see his rider.

 

[KingOfEpicocity]

I'm generally in favor of going Ludicrous.

You should see his rider.

I'm glad imagineers don't think like they have a budget

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Haha. You like to use the word garish a lot.

Alas, that is the America we live in these days.

 

[danlb_2000]

I'm glad imagineers don't think like they have a budget

I don't have a problem with the idea of Imagineering pitching something bigger and more expensive then will probably be accepted by management. I would rather see them think big and scale back, then go to small, but if they are going to do things this way make all the cuts before you release anything to the public. You also need to be sure you don't cut to far.

 

[KingOfEpicocity]

I don't have a problem with the idea of Imagineering pitching something bigger and more expensive then will probably be accepted by management. I would rather see them think big and scale back, then go to small, but if they are going to do things this way make all the cuts before you release anything to the public. You also need to be sure you don't cut to far.

I agree completely. Especially if they wanted to add onto it in later years, shelved ideas always come back.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I don't have a problem with the idea of Imagineering pitching something bigger and more expensive then will probably be accepted by management. I would rather see them think big and scale back, then go to small, but if they are going to do things this way make all the cuts before you release anything to the public. You also need to be sure you don't cut to far.

The problem though is about the internal process. The numbers for even what was initially shown for Toy Story Land were completely outrageous.

 

[JohnWD]

The problem though is about the internal process. The numbers for even what was initially shown for Toy Story Land were completely outrageous.

What is the process for coming up with a proposal? Is it just totally blue sky? Or is their a expected cost range, along with some other parameters (e.g., number of rides, restaurants, etc.)?

 

[danlb_2000]

The problem though is about the internal process. The numbers for even what was initially shown for Toy Story Land were completely outrageous.

I agree completely. This sort of thing is quite common in large corporations and once it becomes ingrained in the culture it becomes very difficult to fix.

 

[JohnWD]

... You might probably be the ONLY person who finds humor in her posts.

I agree - not a very diverse group! A shame.

 

[lazyboy97o]

What is the process for coming up with a proposal? Is it just totally blue sky? Or is their a expected cost range, along with some other parameters (e.g., number of rides, restaurants, etc.)?

Yes, numbers are such as cost capacity are attached to a project as they define the need and scope.

I agree - not a very diverse group! A shame.

Humoring for nonsense is not a trait of diversity.

 

[JohnWD]

Yes, numbers are such as cost capacity are attached to a project as they define the need and scope.


Humoring for nonsense is not a trait of diversity.

Then how does an outrageous proposal come forward?

Calling her posts nonsense is not a trait of diversity.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Then how does an outrageous proposal come forward?

Calling her posts nonsense is not a trait of diversity.

The entire operating model is broken.

Her posts are full of lies and fabrications. But that you seem so intent on defending such actions isn't surprising.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

The entire operating model is broken.

Her posts are full of lies and fabrications. But that you seem so intent on defending such actions isn't surprising.

JohnWD is very much a Disney Brand Advocate who has no tolerance for honest analysis of the Disney Product.

"Don't rain on his 3pm parade!"

 

[AEfx]

He's talking about the costs associated with Walt Disney Imagineering, not in-park pricing.

Exactly.

@marni1971 , please correct me if I am wrong - but what Universal spent on Diagon Alley, Transformers, and Springfield was about what was spent for NFL.