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News Tomorrowland Speedway and Walt Disney World Railroad to be impacted by TRON construction at the Magic Kingdom

jt04

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Someone tell me again why they couldn't have woven this and Slinky Dog Dash together on the same footprint in Toy Story Land?
I think I have an answer. While the idea would be great, the reason you don't see this done is because if someone loses something on a coaster it can hit someone below.

This is why the attractions being placed inside the helix of California Screamin have covered queues and rides. It is also why Dualing Dragons stopped dualing. And they have that ugly net hanging off of the Hulk Coaster.

They need to make the raceway an indoor attraction. Creates a greater sense of speed and easier to electrify. See Andretti carts.
 

jt04

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Is there any chance this ride will go under the Tron canopy? I think it would really be a nice touch if they can pull it off. It seems hard to believe they will reopen this will more tron construction goes on and then shut it back down again to theme it tron as has been mentioned. If so the speedway would be down for 2019 up for 2020 and then back down for 2021 while tron finishes up?
I doubt it. See my comment above.
 

ChrisFL

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Is there any chance this ride will go under the Tron canopy? I think it would really be a nice touch if they can pull it off. It seems hard to believe they will reopen this will more tron construction goes on and then shut it back down again to theme it tron as has been mentioned. If so the speedway would be down for 2019 up for 2020 and then back down for 2021 while tron finishes up?
I wish they would just put it out of its misery and be done with it
 

azox

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So looking at other sites it sounds like this ride is coming back in May 2019. It will be fun to see what they do :)
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
Then they aren't going to be able to use the Tron design from Shanghai since the guest path goes under the track there.
I wouldn't be surprised then to see portions enclosed then. Can't have guests walking directly under coaster tracks. In the US anyway.
 

RSoxNo1

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The same reason they couldn’t have made any other armchair imagineer fan idea online.
By no means I am the creative decision maker that many in house people at Disney Imagineering, but there are some operational issues that could have been a part of many projects under Iger.

Putting in a Go Kart type ride in Toy Story Land would allow for the removal of the Speedway where that land could be much better utilized.

I said this when Toy Story was announced and well before they announced the Tron coaster. I'm certainly at the point where I think there are fans that understand park operations and needs better than the executives writing the checks.
 

RSoxNo1

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I think I have an answer. While the idea would be great, the reason you don't see this done is because if someone loses something on a coaster it can hit someone below.

This is why the attractions being placed inside the helix of California Screamin have covered queues and rides. It is also why Dualing Dragons stopped dualing. And they have that ugly net hanging off of the Hulk Coaster.

They need to make the raceway an indoor attraction. Creates a greater sense of speed and easier to electrify. See Andretti carts.
It's valid enough, but the design to integrate the two onto a similar footprint shouldn't be that difficult. Tunnels at points of intersection or some other sort of barrier like a net would solve the problem.
 

DinoInstitute

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By no means I am the creative decision maker that many in house people at Disney Imagineering, but there are some operational issues that could have been a part of many projects under Iger.

Putting in a Go Kart type ride in Toy Story Land would allow for the removal of the Speedway where that land could be much better utilized.

I said this when Toy Story was announced and well before they announced the Tron coaster. I'm certainly at the point where I think there are fans that understand park operations and needs better than the executives writing the checks.
I agree with that. My comment was mostly just intended as sarcasm, as there are hundreds of great ideas that they could (and/or should) have done but didn’t. Personally I appreciate TSL as is, but certainly, you have a great point that some operational decisions just simply don’t make any sense and you would think most people with a basic understanding of the parks with have known better (most notable example being closing GMR for MMRR instead of expanding).
 

jt04

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By no means I am the creative decision maker that many in house people at Disney Imagineering, but there are some operational issues that could have been a part of many projects under Iger.

Putting in a Go Kart type ride in Toy Story Land would allow for the removal of the Speedway where that land could be much better utilized.

I said this when Toy Story was announced and well before they announced the Tron coaster. I'm certainly at the point where I think there are fans that understand park operations and needs better than the executives writing the checks.
True.

By the way, I don't think a mini-Carsland has been taken off the table for DHS so that would have been redundant.

Your idea might better fit Future World 2.0 if it got a retheme.
 

MisterPenguin

Rumormonger
Premium Member
By no means I am the creative decision maker that many in house people at Disney Imagineering, but there are some operational issues that could have been a part of many projects under Iger.

Putting in a Go Kart type ride in Toy Story Land would allow for the removal of the Speedway where that land could be much better utilized.

I said this when Toy Story was announced and well before they announced the Tron coaster. I'm certainly at the point where I think there are fans that understand park operations and needs better than the executives writing the checks.
The idea of a Toy Story land where you 'ride the toys' could have been its own 5th gate...
 

RSoxNo1

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The idea of a Toy Story land where you 'ride the toys' could have been its own 5th gate...
I don't know about that. Personally, I'm not in love with Toy Story as a land concept. I don't think it's architectural or environmental interesting compared to some of the other movie based lands that have been created. Oversized props is less interesting to me than unique architecture or rockwork.
 

twilight mitsuk

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I think I have an answer. While the idea would be great, the reason you don't see this done is because if someone loses something on a coaster it can hit someone below.

This is why the attractions being placed inside the helix of California Screamin have covered queues and rides. It is also why Dualing Dragons stopped dualing. And they have that ugly net hanging off of the Hulk Coaster.

They need to make the raceway an indoor attraction. Creates a greater sense of speed and easier to electrify. See Andretti carts.
Manta at sw has those nets
 

JenniferS

You’re nothing. But not to me.
Premium Member
I visited Dollywood earlier this year and their car ride is automated and it seemed to work quite well. They loaded vehicles one-by-one like a dark ride which seemed to help keep the line moving. They had booster seats that let little kids see above the steering wheel. There was no gas pedal, but that’s irrelevant for the shorter kids who cannot reach. There was a “radio” that was synced to the ride and focus seemed more on the experience versus not rear ending the person in front of you. It was really surprising at how well it worked without the reason that is given for such rides to exist.
I just rode this last week. It was great fun!
I was also surprised to learn that all three of us in our party were listening to totally different Christmas songs in our individual cars.

I would absolutely ride Dollywood’s again. In more than 40 days spent at MK since 1991, I have only ridden the TS twice, the last time being in 2003.

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Admiral01

Premium Member
If it is closed for 2+ years, I would hope they use that time to improve the experience -- no reason they cannot add some show scenes along the way. The long boring portion between Frontierland and Fantasyland could really use a Grand Canyon diorama...
Been thinking this for a long time...And it would go great with those Dino animatronics they just removed from the Universe of Energy.
 
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