Tomorrowland-New D & E Ticket and Aesthetic overhaul

[ChristianG]

Can someone repost the link or send it to me?

Quoted from WDWFigment:

Here's what the story said:

Originally Posted by DisneyGossip.com
One of the key observations that has been made about the new Sorcerers of the Magic Kingdom interactive game is that every land except Tomorrowland has a tie-in to the game. This has led many to speculate that Disney does not want to spend to add SotMK elements only to have to remove them for a giant upgrade to the land that may be in the planning stages right now.

The new Disney parks leadership (aka Tom Staggs) and Walt Disney Imagineering agree that Tomorrowland at both the Magic Kingdom and at Disneyland is in great need of help. Cars land opens in June at DCA and New Fantasyland opens in November at the MK. This is fortuitous for the prospects for a new Tomorrowland. If the crowds and spending come to DCA and New Fantasyland as predicted, WDI will get the greenlight to move ahead with plans to update Tomorrowland in both parks.

Historically, Disney management has been much more likely to green light an attraction if it can be duplicated and used in multiple parks. They now believe they can get two Tomorrowlands for the price of one (so to speak). Disneyland and the Magic Kingdom would get clones of a new E-Ticket, clones of a C or D ticket, and updates to theming that will be nearly identical at both parks.

Everything would be tied up around space travel and a very futuristic vision of far off places and new creatures. The C or D ticket is tentatively scheduled to be a WALL-E based next-generation omnimover (a more varied range of motion for the cars and onboard screens to interact with). The E-Ticket you've probably already heard of.

It will be more than just a single ride, but rather a whole pavilion. Everyone knows that Avatarland has been put on hold at Disney's Animal Kingdom. The reason might be because Imagineering has long held an interest in graphing an alien world onto Tomorrowland and the Avatar movies might provide the perfect vehicle. It also lets Disney have a working concept that won't see the park needing to re-invent the land every 15 years again.

That's all I have for today. Looks like we could be in for a very interested next 5 years.

I hope this happens, but I'm a bit skeptical about the source. The tone of the post starts out as one of "connecting the dots" nature, and shifts to an authoritative "this is what's tentatively planned" nature. Is it wishful thinking, or does the writer actually have some inside information? It would be disappointing if this rumor spiraled out of control based upon some offhand remarks by Iger (the same question could've been asked about any land and his response would've been the same) and a blog that is presenting its own wishful thinking...

 

[NoChesterHester]

Well I will hold out hope that some of the love for DLR will find its way here. I'll take a clone if it is spectacular.

 

[RunnerEd]

I've scanned through this thread and have kept up with it since the OP. I have noticed an absence of "heavy hitter" insiders comments. I don't really know what to make of that. It's either no news is good news or that the Tomorrowland Expansion is so ludicrous that they feel like commenting isn't worth their while. :shrug:

 

[disney fan 13]

I've scanned through this thread and have kept up with it since the OP. I have noticed an absence of "heavy hitter" insiders comments. I don't really know what to make of that. It's either no news is good news or that the Tomorrowland Expansion is so ludicrous that they feel like commenting isn't worth their while. :shrug:

Martin said something was going down... just not in Florida

 

[RunnerEd]

Martin said something was going down... just not in Florida

He counts as an insider for sure. Too bad for us but not surprising. I must have missed that. Thanks! :wave:

 

[menamechris]

TDA are taking notice of Potter West. Big time. They're having triplets over it. Everything TDO should have done. As I said when DCA is done (for now) expect Glendales attention to drift next door again.

Fabulous. I am feeling pretty certain nothing terribly spectacular will happen in WDW again. We get band-aid projects that sound great, but ultimately offer little. I get the sinking feeling at WDW will be virtually the same in 2032 as it is in 2012.

 

[PalisadesPkteer]

[/QUOTE] And about the speedway, the speedway lends itself perfectly to a Tron overlay. Think about that, zooming around on Tron cycles on the speedway track, especially lit up in the evening?? People would wait for hours to do that! They would have to install fastpass, lol. And the picture selling potential, OMG. Disney, wake up and smell the money here. So many good opportunities that Disney just wastes![/QUOTE]

Yes, some sort of Tron light cycle or other Tron vehicle, multi level tracked and Electric based power system would do wonders for the speedway. Give it some nice banked turns and some speed and some awesome effects etc. Yea!

And please leave my COP where it is. Just make a new futuristic final scene.
If you are forward thinking enough, then the COP would be fine for quite awhile. Or at least the final scene giving out new ideas of what is to come in the future and change the narration accordingly when needed.

 

[Cosmic Commando]

That was one Blue - yellow sky proposal.

TDA are taking notice of Potter West. Big time. They're having triplets over it. Everything TDO should have done. As I said when DCA is done (for now) expect Glendales attention to drift next door again.

I remember a while ago (maybe a year or more now), Al Lutz mentioned the possibility of multiple new E-tickets built at the same time or to open in consecutive years in Disneyland proper. That was before Potter West was even announced! Disneyland, almost unbelievably, is in for a major wave of expansion. Depending on how you count, there are at least four big areas ripe for redevelopment.

Martin, do you think DL's Toontown is as disposable as some people have been suggesting lately? I've always thought it was an area that could easily be plussed instead of reimagined.

 

[PalisadesPkteer]

And about the speedway, the speedway lends itself perfectly to a Tron overlay. Think about that, zooming around on Tron cycles on the speedway track, especially lit up in the evening?? People would wait for hours to do that! They would have to install fastpass, lol. And the picture selling potential, OMG. Disney, wake up and smell the money here. So many good opportunities that Disney just wastes!

Yes, a Tron re do of the speedway would do wonders for it. Use Tron light cycles or other Tron vehicle, multi-leveled tracked or diff tracks and electric powered systems with AA's or other cool effects and you have a winner!

And please leave my favorite COP where it is. Just change the final scene. If you are forward thinking enough then it would be fine for quite awhile, If put ideas out there for what could come then you only need to tweek the narration every so often if man kind does actually come out with the ideas you mention.

You really need to think really out there when you are coming up with ideas for the future. Maybe some will never come, you just got to be bold with the ideas.

(Still waiting for the "Jetson's" cars, remote controlled auto's, interplanetary or inter solar system travel etc)

 

[marni1971]

What is a blue/yellow sky proposal?

My way of saying more than blue sky.

 

[marni1971]

Martin, do you think DL's Toontown is as disposable as some people have been suggesting lately? I've always thought it was an area that could easily be plussed instead of reimagined.

I've heard nothing about DLs Toon Town, but I don't know everything :wave:

There have been mutterings about WDWs Tland being overhauled, but there are quite often. Indeed, there have been plans to plus most attractions in all the parks over the years with nothing happening.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I've heard nothing about DLs Toon Town, but I don't know everything :wave:

There have been mutterings about WDWs Tland being overhauled, but there are quite often. Indeed, there have been plans to plus most attractions in all the parks over the years with nothing happening.

I would think Tomorrowland in WDW could be completely redone with nothing other than Space Mountain being safe.

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

I would think Tomorrowland in WDW could be completely redone with nothing other than Space Mountain being safe.

Agree completely, and even then, I wouldn't call Space Mountain safe. Considering the (knowingly) half arsed refurb that it received, there is still a lot of room for a complete overhaul of that attraction.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Agree completely, and even then, I wouldn't call Space Mountain safe. Considering the (knowingly) half arsed refurb that it received, there is still a lot of room for a complete overhaul of that attraction.

Fair point. I should say, Space Mountain is safe in as much as the name of the attraction is safe. I would guess that Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin is safe, but I wouldn't be shocked to see it moved to the Studios along with Monster's Inc Laugh Floor. It would be somewhat redundant in that park, but it wouldn't surprise me

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

Fair point. I should say, Space Mountain is safe in as much as the name of the attraction is safe. I would guess that Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin is safe, but I wouldn't be shocked to see it moved to the Studios along with Monster's Inc Laugh Floor. It would be somewhat redundant in that park, but it wouldn't surprise me

Yeah, Buzz being in the Studios would be redundant, and on two levels at that (same franchise and similar game system). But I wouldn't say no to it if it means Tomorrowland finally loses its Toontown characteristics.

 

[flavious27]

That would be pretty great. But, it would require a complete redo of TL. I just don't see that happening.

Well isn't that what most people want already? The only things that people want to keep are sm, the astro orbitor, and the people movers.

A vertical cityscape would be really difficult to produce. So much money to go vertical. Besides, while I think that image is nice, it is sort of a retro view of the future. I believe some modern cities like Hong Kong and Tokyo look cooler then that today.

Disney has to go in a different direction. If they try to go future again, it will eventually fail.

Well what disney can do is to create the illusion of the vertical cityscape without having 10 or 15 story buildings. This is part of what disney does so good already. The more difficult thing for disney to implementing this style will be to refurb the exteriors of the buildings and what to do with the speedway.

 

[mgf]

It seems likes Nissan or Toyota (GM already has TT) would be prime targets for a new Speedway sponsorship. It is such an obvious fit: "Test drive the new Leaf/Prius on THE highway of tomorrow." The current attraction is noisy, likely expensive to operate, and frankly environmentally irresponsible.

 

[lazyboy97o]

It seems likes Nissan or Toyota (GM already has TT) would be prime targets for a new Speedway sponsorship. It is such an obvious fit: "Test drive the new Leaf/Prius on THE highway of tomorrow." The current attraction is noisy, likely expensive to operate, and frankly environmentally irresponsible.

There is likely some sort of exclusivity clause in the sponsorship agreement with General Motors that would prevent another automobile company from sponsoring another automobile related attraction.

 

[HMF]

There is likely some sort of exclusivity clause in the sponsorship agreement with General Motors that would prevent another automobile company from sponsoring another automobile related attraction.

Then explain Honda's sponsership of Autopia in Hong Kong.:animwink:

 

[FQL]

The exclusive agreement applies to WDW and not other parks.