Brad Bishop
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I agree with you completely. I'm saying that from the current management's view:
- non-IP is an unknown quantity
- Popular IP (Frozen) has numbers to back it up. Build a Frozen Attraction/M&G/merch/cupcake parties/etc.
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I agree with you completely. I'm saying that from the current management's view:
- non-IP is an unknown quantity
- Popular IP (Frozen) has numbers to back it up. Build a Frozen Attraction/M&G/merch/cupcake parties/etc.
Bocabear
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I agree completely...Part of the fun of souvenir shopping is to have merchandise specific to the lands and attraction...instead of just generic character stuff.
ImperfectPixie
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I remember being blown away by the shops at the end of PotC and Splash during our honeymoon in 2000...I could have spent THOUSANDS in just those two shops.
Bocabear
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but it is a fallacy that there is any unknown with building an IP related attraction... People want rides..looks like specifically coasters... They could build any coaster with theming to anything no IP related, and it is going to be incredibly popular... 7 Dwarfs Mine Ride is popular because of the ride that it is...not necessarily because of Snow White...
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aladdin2007
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yeah up till a couple or few years ago things had gotten so much better with good merch options that correlated to the area. Now its one big giant mall. There isn't even any merch that says magic kingdom on it anymore....remember the melamine plate sets that had a plate for each land? or the orange bird house items, plates, glasses, figures, pillows etc? and the entire adventureland line.....and so on to name just a few...all of that would still be hugely popular and sell great,,, now its nothing but the same trendy/teen/hip line everywhere, which to me anyway is generic and unappealing.
trainplane3
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I've felt the same way with Mousegear. For some reason people love it so much (and are worried about it going away for the spine overhaul) but it's 90% of the same stuff found at every other store on property.
aladdin2007
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true... same goes for the emporium and all the others. dumbos circus tent use to have different things (now just a preschool store), they took away the cool stores at the studios (cids, writers stop, the art shop in animation courtyard,, the movie memorabilia store at the end of the tram tour,,and replaced with either nothing or same generic merch as everywhere else.
Brad Bishop
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I'm 100% with you. I wish they'd let the Imagineers do what they want but I think those days are long gone. Everything now must be IP related (because of management, marketing, and synergy).
I think, long term, that these IPs will peter out LONG before the older non-IP attractions peter out but, management only sees: "Movie did great at the box office! Shoe-horn it in somewhere in the parks!"
I think 20-30 years out that Epcot will essentially evolve into MK+. They're not going to keep the FW/WS aspect of it as it has been and the countries will simply be pretty fronts for some popular, new IP-based ride - even if it doesn't quite fit (Frozen).
There used to be rules which kept the parks both distinct and unique. Those are gone.
Brad Bishop
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I think you have to go back to the 1970s and 1980s to get really unique merch at various locations (before the Emporium was built on Main St.). At one time they had a guy who specifically sought out unique items for each of the resorts, parks/lands.
Then the Emporium was built and, overall, it's T-shirts, hats, pins, and plush. There are a few little shops with some unique things left (or there were the last time I went a few years back) but, overall, you can find generic Disney merch everywhere.
DznyRktekt
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The Emporium was an opening day merchandise location that has consumed the unique shops along that side of Main Street.
Bocabear
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There used to be an antiques shop in Liberty Square that had real honest to goodness colonial antiques...
Homogenizing the merchandise may be the easiest way to do things, but it sure makes for boring unappealing merchandise... I will open my wallet for expensive unique things ( Memento Mori) but the generic Disney stuff, I could care less about... I don't think I am alone in that either... Look at the success Universal has had with the Harry Potter merchandise and shopping options...
Homogenizing the merchandise may be the easiest way to do things, but it sure makes for boring unappealing merchandise... I will open my wallet for expensive unique things ( Memento Mori) but the generic Disney stuff, I could care less about... I don't think I am alone in that either... Look at the success Universal has had with the Harry Potter merchandise and shopping options...
Incomudro
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Oh man, if only the was a 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea gift shop back in the day!
IWant2GoNow
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Haven't posted in a while, but seeing all of this new paint going up triggered an idea.
I don't mind the new paint scheme so far. I don't quite understand all the white, but at least it's receiving fresh paint and not just letting the old paint peel off before they do anything about it.
All the white made me wonder if it's possible to do 3D projection mapping along all of these buildings. Would it be possible to project something and be able to see it during the day? If not, even just having it on in the evenings would create quite a sight I'd imagine. Picture moving billboards and advertisements for Tomorrowland attractions (current and old) as well as signage for futuristic products. It'd give the area a lot more kinetic energy and excitement to it.
I don't mind the new paint scheme so far. I don't quite understand all the white, but at least it's receiving fresh paint and not just letting the old paint peel off before they do anything about it.
All the white made me wonder if it's possible to do 3D projection mapping along all of these buildings. Would it be possible to project something and be able to see it during the day? If not, even just having it on in the evenings would create quite a sight I'd imagine. Picture moving billboards and advertisements for Tomorrowland attractions (current and old) as well as signage for futuristic products. It'd give the area a lot more kinetic energy and excitement to it.
Timothy_Q
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That's what Tomorrowland 94 was
KikoKea
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Was just there this past week (drove home today), and was curious how the paint looked. Neither DH or I liked it, and felt it did not fit in with the land. Not sure what they are trying to accomplish with all the colors. To me, the pastels would look better in a kiddie land. We had a great time on CoP and TTA, of course, and enjoyed rattling around on SM, but the area just looks sad.
What if this kiddie color palette is being used to ease the transition from Fantasyland into Tomorrowland.. and the end goal is an eventual "Sugar Rush Speedway" attraction that would need to harmoniously fit within the aesthetic of both lands.
yensidtlaw1969
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Considering a TRON-like overlay has all but been confirmed for the Speedway in conjunction with the new TRON ride, I don't suspect that's part of their plan.
GlacierGlacier
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Did anyone else notice that the core speedway building itself got a paint job alongside the logo on the track? I seem to remember it being based around a purple theme, but now it's a cyan with a similar shade/palate to the new tomorrowland style.