Little Green Men
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I know you're being sarcastic but I think the new photo looks far more aesthetically pleasant than the old one.
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EricsBiscuit
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Cars Land C0NF14M3D!1!
tparris
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Well, we’ve already got mold growing without them, so I don’t see the issue there
rle4lunch
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MK Fantasyland is straight up tacky compared to DL's. I grew up going to WDW and didn't know better until I was 24 years old. MK NFL is great and they should've carried the design forward into the rest of the land. The split between new and old is striking and out of place.
T.Will
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To be fair, MK's old FL is based on DL's original Fantasyland, which even Walt was unhappy with. It wasn't until 83 when DL's Fantasyland became what it is today.
Well, since this was humanity's first attempt at a waterfall, you could only imagine all the unforeseen things that went wrong. It's too bad we still haven't mastered architectural or landscaping waterfalls. Maybe someday...
sedati
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You are correct. And I'll say the Peter Pan Exterior is horrendous. What I should have said is that I don't want to see the aesthetic standard set with New Fantasyland and even the Tangled Toilets abandoned for cheap looking heraldry and awnings.
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rle4lunch
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True, but it could've easily been reskinned when NFL was complete.
Disney Maddux
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That new Laugh Floor sign is actually awesome. Feels like old-school Disney...
peter11435
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I don’t think Bob Chapek has any knowledge of what EPCOT center was.
Tavernacle12
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Couldn’t they find a way to enclose it with glass or use LEDs to simulate a waterfall?
They’d have to build something first though.
Kman101
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Like Peter said, Bob probably didn't even know what "an Epcot" was. I actually doubt anyone "hates" it (and to be blunt, you can't lay everything at one doorstep, there are numerous people to blame for the condition of Epcot starting around 1994 ...). They're just too lazy to care what it should be about. They offer a lot of lip service but haven't really backed it up yet. Uncle $$$ has just ripped the final bandaid off and it stings for everyone. But Epcot's been dead for decades, honestly
Can't live in a state of limbo forever. Do I agree with most things? Not really. But they don't care what we think, either, so ... what can we do?Truthfully I'm more annoyed at those who ripped out Horizons, gave us lackluster Mission Space, Test Track (to be fair, I liked the crash test dummy version, the TRON-esque overlay is nice enough but not really a great attraction, sorry! I know it's blasphemous to criticize but oh well), a rehash of Nemo's movie plot, destroyed Imagination for an Abomination ... among other things (I'll give them a slight pass for Soarin') ... blame those guys for leaving Epcot, truthufully, in a total mess. Maybe if they had updated Maelstrom 10 years ago Frozen wouldn't have been shoehorned in. I mean, who knows what could have happened.
Is IP the answer? No (but I think it can have a place if done right, not saying everything should be). But they think it is. I just want cohesion, a real game plan, and care taken when using IP, but I've yet to see that. IP has never been the problem. Execution has been (hi Up! A Great Bird Adventure in AK ... meanwhile, Lion King is excellently used). #IMO
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WDWTank
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I hope Bob Chapek gets oustedLike Peter said, Bob probably didn't even know what "an Epcot" was. I actually doubt anyone "hates" it (and to be blunt, you can't lay everything at one doorstep, there are numerous people to blame for the condition of Epcot starting around 1994 ...). They're just too lazy to care what it should be about. They offer a lot of lip service but haven't really backed it up yet. Uncle $$$ has just ripped the final bandaid off and it stings for everyone. But Epcot's been dead for decades, honestly
Truthfully I'm more annoyed at those who ripped out Horizons, gave us lackluster Mission Space, Test Track (to be fair, I liked the crash test dummy version, the TRON-esque overlay is nice enough but not really a great attraction, sorry! I know it's blasphemous to criticize but oh well), a rehash of Nemo's movie plot, destroyed Imagination for an Abomination ... among other things (I'll give them a slight pass for Soarin') ... blame those guys for leaving Epcot, truthufully, in a total mess. Maybe if they had updated Maelstrom 10 years ago Frozen wouldn't have been shoehorned in. I mean, who knows what could have happened.
Is IP the answer? No (but I think it can have a place if done right, not saying everything should be). But they think it is. I just want cohesion, a real game plan, and care taken when using IP, but I've yet to see that. IP has never been the problem. Execution has been (hi Up! A Great Bird Adventure in AK ... meanwhile, Lion King is excellently used). #IMO
tparris
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Yeah, unfortunately that will never happen. If anything he’ll get promoted to CEO
WDWTank
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Maybe not
I guess time will tell
Rich Brownn
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The fact that Walt was unhappy with Fantasyland at DL makes it even weirder it was replicated in Florida. And as for the waterfalls, yeah, you'd have thought they'd have thought that through more. But then again, these were the same people who built a teacup ride in Florida with no roof, figured standing in uncovered queues would be no worse than California, and didn't even design proper drainage for Fantasyland (probably slowly slanting towards the carousel wasn't the best idea).Well, since this was humanity's first attempt at a waterfall, you could only imagine all the unforeseen things that went wrong. It's too bad we still haven't mastered architectural or landscaping waterfalls. Maybe someday...
Fantasyland in Orlando seems to have really been the rushed land despite being the most populated (or perhaps that was the problem)
Add to the list the notorious pinch points, lack of usable extended queues, and a theatre whos preshow had more capacity than the main show and you have to wonder what was being smoked.
Animaniac93-98
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Did they fix this for Tokyo when they moved the Mickey Mouse Revue over there? Or was the mistake made again because so much of the park was recycled blueprints?
You assume they had a decade to get it right.