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WondersOfLife

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A ride can be both popular AND dated.

See Peter Pan's Flight
Peter Pan's Flight is a good ride. It has a terrible capacity problem, though, which is the main reason for its lines. Buzz Lightyear is an omnimover and still gets decent wait times. Even factoring in FP+ doesn't mean anything in comparison to each other.

Do you have another 'popular but dated' example?
 

Timothy_Q

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Peter Pan's Flight is a good ride. It has a terrible capacity problem, though, which is the main reason for its lines. Buzz Lightyear is an omnimover and still gets decent wait times. Even factoring in FP+ doesn't mean anything in comparison to each other.

Do you have another 'popular but dated' example?
At WDW? Let's see.

Speedway, Space Mountain, RnRC, iasw, (+PPF, Buzz)

They're all in need of serious updates / refreshes
 

WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
At WDW? Let's see.

Speedway, Space Mountain, RnRC, iasw, (+PPF, Buzz)

They're all in need of serious updates / refreshes

Space Mountain and RnRC are extremely amazing rides for thrill seekers. I wouldn't say either of them are dated outside of Space Mountain's ride mechanics. It's a Small World is, again, a great ride for its intended demographic. My dad was pointing out during our last trip while we were riding it, how the design of the ride keeps little toddlers engaged the whole time. And sure enough, the 4 toddlers on the boat ride were mesmerized by everything around them the whole ride.

Speedway and Peter Pan have terrible capacity problems. And Buzz is still terribly relevant today with the popularity of Toy Story.

I can get behind updating the ride mechanics and some new show scenes for Buzz... But if it were to stay as is, I personally believe it would be fine. Because again, I've always enjoyed it, all my first time friends enjoy it, and I just don't feel a "datedness" to the ride. It's a video game. It's fun. :)

Any other examples?

EDIT: It seems like you're wanting to find a "mediocre but still popular" ride. Peter Pan and Speedway are your only mediocre examples, and their main source of popularity is due to their ride capacity.
 

Timothy_Q

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Space Mountain and RnRC are extremely amazing rides for thrill seekers. I wouldn't say either of them are dated outside of Space Mountain's ride mechanics. It's a Small World is, again, a great ride for its intended demographic. My dad was pointing out during our last trip while we were riding it, how the design of the ride keeps little toddlers engaged the whole time. And sure enough, the 4 toddlers on the boat ride were mesmerized by everything around them the whole ride.

Speedway and Peter Pan have terrible capacity problems. And Buzz is still terribly relevant today with the popularity of Toy Story.

I can get behind updating the ride mechanics and some new show scenes for Buzz... But if it were to stay as is, I personally believe it would be fine. Because again, I've always enjoyed it, all my first time friends enjoy it, and I just don't feel a "datedness" to the ride. It's a video game. It's fun. :)

Any other examples?
I'll never understand people making excuses for Disney to NOT make their rides better.

You can enjoy something and still see the room for improvement.

Once you ride iasw at TDL, DLP and HKD, you'll see how sad MK's version is and how much better it could be
Same goes for the other rides I listed.
 

Kman101

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I'll never understand people making excuses for Disney to NOT make their rides better.

You can enjoy something and still see the room for improvement.
Exactly. I enjoy a lot of things but I'm always thinking of room for improvement. Shouldn't we get "the best" each and every time? "Good enough" shouldn't cut it. I mean, I don't hate TSL like some and what's there is nice but don't tell me they couldn't do a lot better.
 

WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
You can enjoy something and still see the room for improvement.
You are correct.
I can get behind updating the ride mechanics and some new show scenes for Buzz...

Buzz is probably on a top 20 list for "least of my concerns" as far as ride updatings go though. I'd much rather Disney focused on other rides and attractions first, that actually need more help than Buzz does.
 

AshaNeOmah

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Space Mountain and RnRC are extremely amazing rides for thrill seekers.
Space Mountain is not a ride for thrill seekers. It has a max speed of 28 mph, 26 ft drop, no inversions, and 3.7 Gs. Any other park would call it a kiddie coaster.

RnRC is popular but somewhat dated considering Aerosmith is no longer popular outside of those that listen to classic rock.
Aerosmith had already achieved that status 20 years go when the ride was conceived. From my very quick search, they've only had one platinum album since the ride open and none in the past 17 years. RnRC's theme was dated after the first year or two.
 
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GlacierGlacier

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Buzz lightyear makes me feel like I need to douse myself with a gallon of hand sanitizer after I ride it. It's easily the worst installation internationally, feels cheap, and the guns are worse quality than the ones you can buy in the gift shop. The projection hallway makes me feel like I need a pair of glasses with lenses three inches thick, and the queue makes me feel like I'm in a tin lunchbox with a dollar-store Bluetooth speaker blaring alarms mixed with the screams of small children taped to the side.

At least the spinners in the park don't make me feel like I'm in a moldy sketchers Light-Up shoebox.

I'll still ride it though. It's worth the wait more than PPF is.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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Buzz lightyear makes me feel like I need to douse myself with a gallon of hand sanitizer after I ride it. It's easily the worst installation internationally, feels cheap, and the guns are worse quality than the ones you can buy in the gift shop. The projection hallway makes me feel like I need a pair of glasses with lenses three inches thick, and the queue makes me feel like I'm in a tin lunchbox with a dollar-store Bluetooth speaker blaring alarms mixed with the screams of small children taped to the side.

At least the spinners in the park don't make me feel like I'm in a moldy sketchers Light-Up shoebox.

I'll still ride it though. It's worth the wait more than PPF is.
Actually, I'm surprised there aren't hand sanitizers all over the parks like on cruise ships...
 

TwilightZone

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I find all the shooter style attractions boring and overrated. I'd rather have traditional dark rides where the focus is storytelling as opposed to "interactive elements".
There's only one shooter ride that truly immersed me and that's the justice league ride at six flags.

Six flags should never out rank disney.
 

WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Space Mountain is not a ride for thrill seekers. It has a max speed of 28 mph, 26 ft drop, no inversions, and 3.7 Gs. Any other park would call it a kiddie coaster.



Aerosmith had already achieved that status 20 years go when the ride was conceived. From my very quick search, they've only had one platinum album since the ride open and none in the past 17 years. RnRC's theme was dated after the first year or two.
These are only opinions. As a thrill seeker myself, I find Space Mountain very thrilling. If the lights were on, that'd be a different story.
 

marni1971

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jt04

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Does anyone doubt everything in the MK will get refurbed before the 50th? At least new paint and effects working?

After that all bets are off as MK 2.0 will likely be next on the agenda IMO.

After Epcots 40th that is. But before DAKs 30th. IMO.
 

WDWTank

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I, personally, don't see it as very dated. It is still very popular, and its a simple fun shooting game ride with physical targets instead of screens. I personally like it a lot more than Toy Story Mania.
I agree :) And it’s one of the most popular rides in MK, they can’t close it!
 

ChrisFL

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I, personally, don't see it as very dated. It is still very popular, and its a simple fun shooting game ride with physical targets instead of screens. I personally like it a lot more than Toy Story Mania.
Have you been on any of the other (newer) versions of it?
 
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