Tom Staggs visits Epcot

misterID

Well-Known Member
*cough cough* ...People Mover... *cough cough*

Yeah, but that was replaced with a cool ride and the structure couldn't support it.

The difference is they've been debating what to do with it for years. There was always a plan to bring it back and I guess they've decided on it.

I'd compare their People Mover to our WOL.

WOL is just a shell with no future. They actually want to do something with their PM.
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
How much of that went onto the (very impressive) rock work though? I hope they left something for the show scenes!

Rock work cost a small fortune, but I don't have an exact figure.

I am worried about how many (or how few) show scenes there will be.

Like I said, this is gonna be a very good ride ... but bar-raising?

Only in rock work.

~Change is coming. BIG, SPIRITED change!~
 

NoChesterHester

Well-Known Member
Rock work cost a small fortune, but I don't have an exact figure.

I am worried about how many (or how few) show scenes there will be.

Like I said, this is gonna be a very good ride ... but bar-raising?

Only in rock work.

~Change is coming. BIG, SPIRITED change!~

So what in your opinion was the last bar raising attraction by WDI?

Is the change that is coming the leadership change at the top?
 

NoChesterHester

Well-Known Member
At WDW? That would have been ToT at an existing park. KS at a new park.

So you're talking 1994 and 1998, respectively.



Absitively, posilutely ... NO COMMENT! :zipit:

~Change is coming. BIG, SPIRITED change!~

I was actually referring to any stateside park. What about Everest? - if the Yeti worked?

Agree on TOT and KS.

Ah Mission Space.... Such a blown opportunity.
 

misterID

Well-Known Member
I agree with TOT, too. But you reminded me of something...

Here's a question for our insiders:

HP's sponsorship of Mission: SPACE will expire soon. I've heard there's a chance they may not renew. Is this a possibility and if so would they change the attraction if a new sponsor came on board? And if they do extend the sponsorship will they have to pay for an extensive refurb like others have?
 

Clamman73

Well-Known Member
I agree with TOT, too. But you reminded me of something...

Here's a question for our insiders:

HP's sponsorship of Mission: SPACE will expire soon. I've heard there's a chance they may not renew. Is this a possibility and if so would they change the attraction if a new sponsor came on board? And if they do extend the sponsorship will they have to pay for an extensive refurb like others have?

Mission: HORIZONS
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
How much of that went onto the (very impressive) rock work though? I hope they left something for the show scenes!

I'm not expecting much from the interior show scenes at Radiator Springs Racers. I think those that think it's going to be some sort of Indiana Jones Adventure type of quality have drunk too much of the Kool-Aid.

They built the real Radiator Springs out in the land, that acts as the pre-show for the ride. From what we've seen leaked on the Internets officially and unofficially, the Racers show scenes appear to just be a short section of flat track past blacklight plywood flats with a few projection/lighting effects and some static Cars characters with speakers behind them spouting out random dialogue as your car goes by. Radiator Springs Racers indoor portion is just sort of a newer version of Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, in a bigger building because the ride vehicles are bigger. :rolleyes:

I think most of the money for Radiator Springs Racers went into the 180 foot tall Cadillac Range and a bunch of eye candy to hide Anaheim from the park once and for all. Any type of very modest dark ride experience inside the building is just a bonus, and I don't expect much personally.

That said, I've been on Journey To The Center Of The Earth a half dozen times or so in the last 7 years. It's a good ride, but the Lava Monster is the big thrill and the rest of it is just sort of pretty rocks with some very basic animation. The high-speed portion is a quick acceleration in the dark out of a cave, with rather mild thrills. The pre-show and queue is just as good, if not a tad better than, the actual ride. :eek:
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
I was actually referring to any stateside park. What about Everest? - if the Yeti worked?

Agree on TOT and KS.

Ah Mission Space.... Such a blown opportunity.

If you are adding in DLR, then I still don't think my answers change. Soarin and TSMM, for two examples, may be fun quality attractions, but they in no way raise the bar. ... There hasn't been anything since the ones I listed in the 90s.

At DLR, you're looking at Indy back in '95.

Even if the yeti worked, the attraction still wouldn't be as groundbreaking as say The Mummy was at UNI. It's just a decent coaster that switches direction and is supposed to have a kewl AA. Fun, but no way bar raising.

~Change is coming. BIG, SPIRITED change!~
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
I'm not expecting much from the interior show scenes at Radiator Springs Racers. I think those that think it's going to be some sort of Indiana Jones Adventure type of quality have drunk too much of the Kool-Aid.

They built the real Radiator Springs out in the land, that acts as the pre-show for the ride. From what we've seen leaked on the Internets officially and unofficially, the Racers show scenes appear to just be a short section of flat track past blacklight plywood flats with a few projection/lighting effects and some static Cars characters with speakers behind them spouting out random dialogue as your car goes by. Radiator Springs Racers indoor portion is just sort of a newer version of Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, in a bigger building because the ride vehicles are bigger. :rolleyes:

I think most of the money for Radiator Springs Racers went into the 180 foot tall Cadillac Range and a bunch of eye candy to hide Anaheim from the park once and for all. Any type of very modest dark ride experience inside the building is just a bonus, and I don't expect much personally.

That said, I've been on Journey To The Center Of The Earth a half dozen times or so in the last 7 years. It's a good ride, but the Lava Monster is the big thrill and the rest of it is just sort of pretty rocks with some very basic animation. The high-speed portion is a quick acceleration in the dark out of a cave, with rather mild thrills. The pre-show and queue is just as good, if not a tad better than, the actual ride. :eek:


I've been on JTTCoTE about a half dozen times (though all in two days in late 2010) and I gotta disagree about the the Lava Monster being the only thrill ... the entire 'drilling' portion is filled with AAs, special effects and lighting that makes you really feel like you're traversing deep into a previously never seen world. Lava Monster and then being shot out the top is simply the climax.

The pre and post shows are phenomenal, though.

We experienced a 6.9 earthquake (offshore beyondTokyo Bay) when in line for the attraction ... because the queue makes earthmoving sounds and shakes and the lights flicker etc ... we had NO CLUE there was an earthquake. The safety announcement was all Japanese and when the show lights went on, I chaulked things up to it being simply 'Test Track's unreliable ride system' ... when we left the queue everyone was acting normal, it was only after seeing Indy was down too that we thought it was a bit odd, still we continued our day and it wasn't until six hours later when having dinner with friends at TDS that we were asked 'where were you guys when the quake hit?':eek:

I was shocked. Shocked that I missed the first real quake of my life. Shocked at how normal everyone acted (guests and cast). And shocked that the effects were so well-done that I never had a clue I wasn't experiencing some Disney MAGIC. ... And, yes, this story has been told in Glendale circles!

~Change is coming. BIG, SPIRITED change!~
 

Mouse Detective

Well-Known Member
Even if the yeti worked, the attraction still wouldn't be as groundbreaking as say The Mummy was at UNI.

I'm a big Uni fan so I have no problem with you complimenting The Mummy. But why do you feel it was groundbreaking compared to EE? I concede my eyes were closed during most of my ride on The Mummy but I did peek once in awhile!
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
I'm a big Uni fan so I have no problem with you complimenting The Mummy. But why do you feel it was groundbreaking compared to EE? I concede my eyes were closed during most of my ride on The Mummy but I did peek once in awhile!

LSM powered dark ride coaster with true show sets, AAs, layers of effects, backwards section, turntable track, midway hill launch, articulated ride vehicles with onboard audio...

The gravity powered EE is just another good coaster compared to that. With serious lack of ride theming.
 

Mouse Detective

Well-Known Member
LSM powered dark ride coaster with true show sets, AAs, layers of effects, backwards section, turntable track, midway hill launch, articulated ride vehicles with onboard audio...
The gravity powered EE is just another good coaster compared to that. With serious lack of ride theming.

Thanks for the explanation. I obviously DID miss a lot with my eyes closed!
 

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