Tom Staggs visits Epcot

WDW1974

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What about Mary Niven? Isn't she well liked and good at her job?

I got to know Mary well. Very well ... back in the glorious heady Y2K DLR expansion days. She came from a school district if I'm not mistaken to run Food and Beverage and replaced a much-loved pro (Michael ... something or other, can't recall his name this second) and she was a total, utter disaster.

I had assumed she was long gone from the company when someone told me she had been named DCA's first VP a few years back. She is the only one of the senior 25 execs in Cynthia Harriss's 'leadership' team to still have power in Anaheim ... shockingly IMHO.

Maybe she has improved? I dunno ... I do know that Georgie K has leaked positive fanbuilding vibes toward her to Al Lutz to run in his columns over the last 18 months.

But no way is Mary going from DCA VP to a position where she'll oversee DLR (and her current boss), WDW and DLP. Never happen.

~Real men have hair!~
 

WDW1974

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By the way, Staggs was in Magic Kingdom today. With Lasseter. It's nice to have a Roy/Walt relationship again.

OK ... a newbie (hopefully not an old friend back again) so I won't be nasty ... I'll just respond with some :hurl::hurl::hurl:

~Gotta clean my mouth out!~
 

WDW1974

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Didn't you run into Tony Baxter in that way?

If you want to run into Tony Baxter, then all you have to do is go to the restroom with me at either WDW, DL, the Hollywood Bowl or the El Capitan ... at any given time there's an 87.6% chance that Tony will be there.

~Where's the toilet dude -- Talking Head?~
 

TalkingHead

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This trip sounds very promising if they are both in the parks. I don't know enough about Staggs to really have an opinion but John Lasseter; I believe in that guy. Very promising indeed.

Lasseter is a better maker of films than a maker of theme park attractions.
 

WDW1974

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Just here hugging my Figment plush and uploading 5,000 SLR pics of the new Storybook Circus restrooms.

Just hugging the plush ... not $exing it?:drevil:

And 5,000 pics... but did you get one taken with an obviously VERY uncomfortable John Lasseter? Apparently, the dude was out and about today in O-Town ... trying to find out if he's sailing on the Fantasy's first cruise tomorrow (I think he and his family may be).

~With restrooms like these, who needs E-tickets?~

~Just don't drink out of the toilets!~
 

TalkingHead

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So, so true ... what great attractions has he been involved in?

~Answer: None!~

You mean you don't think Test Track West is going to redefine the theme park experience?

That video of the ride that circulated a few months ago was a little underwhelming.
 

WDW1974

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You mean you don't think Test Track West is going to redefine the theme park experience?

That video of the ride that circulated a few months ago was a little underwhelming.

For an attraction that has surpassed the $300 million barrier and is pushing toward $400 (remember that DCA cost slightly more than $700 million to build), I would expect an attraction that takes TT 2.0, which is TDS's amazing JTTCoTE attraction, and raises that bar.

I don't believe this will do that.

I think it will be fun. I think it will be better than TT by a great deal. But it won't even equal the 2001 Tokyo bar, let alone surpass it.

But the Social Media whores will love it and talk about it being the greatest ride ever etc. ... and that's really all that matters.

~If you love Disney, then Duncan and his minions are your enemies!~
 

WED Purist

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OK ... a newbie (hopefully not an old friend back again) so I won't be nasty ... I'll just respond with some :hurl::hurl::hurl:

~Gotta clean my mouth out!~

I'm new here. I read forums every now and then, but never felt a need to post until I saw the one about Eisner getting a window. Personally, I like having different people in charge of finances and creativity again.
 

wdwmagic

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For an attraction that has surpassed the $300 million barrier and is pushing toward $400 (remember that DCA cost slightly more than $700 million to build), I would expect an attraction that takes TT 2.0, which is TDS's amazing JTTCoTE attraction, and raises that bar.

I don't believe this will do that.

I think it will be fun. I think it will be better than TT by a great deal. But it won't even equal the 2001 Tokyo bar, let alone surpass it.

But the Social Media whores will love it and talk about it being the greatest ride ever etc. ... and that's really all that matters.

~If you love Disney, then Duncan and his minions are your enemies!~

How much of that went onto the (very impressive) rock work though? I hope they left something for the show scenes!
 

WED Purist

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Just a Side Note

If you add up all the Rockwork on the Fantasyland expansion, from Belle's all the way through Mermaid (including her queue and meet and greet), it's a little less than half of what they have in Carsland.
 

lazyboy97o

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I'm new here. I read forums every now and then, but never felt a need to post until I saw the one about Eisner getting a window. Personally, I like having different people in charge of finances and creativity again.
And who would be in charge of creativity? John hardly controls the parks, and what he has been involved with has been go him and self focused (imagine if the Team Members at Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey all dressed like J. K. Rowling?), and Walt Disney Animation Studio is still just sort of there. John seems to like the parks as amusements, big toys, and I see from him no real respect for themed entertainment as a creative medium of its own.
 

NoChesterHester

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If you add up all the Rockwork on the Fantasyland expansion, from Belle's all the way through Mermaid (including her queue and meet and greet), it's a little less than half of what they have in Carsland.

Have you seen both in person? I haven't seen DCA, but that is a lot of horizontal area in Florida.
 

WED Purist

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And who would be in charge of creativity? John hardly controls the parks, and what he has been involved with has been go him and self focused (imagine if the Team Members at Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey all dressed like J. K. Rowling?), and Walt Disney Animation Studio is still just sort of there. John seems to like the parks as amusements, big toys, and I see from him no real respect for themed entertainment as a creative medium of its own.

There are a couple of people in charge of creative, I was just pointing out that they should be separate from the business minded. From what I've seen, John has a tremendous respect for themed entertainment. Wait until some video comes out on some 'special edition blue ray' thing about the building of DAAR and the Fantasyland expansion, and you'll see John's reaction to what we build out here.
 

NoChesterHester

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There are a couple of people in charge of creative, I was just pointing out that they should be separate from the business minded. From what I've seen, John has a tremendous respect for themed entertainment. Wait until some video comes out on some 'special edition blue ray' thing about the building of DAAR and the Fantasyland expansion, and you'll see John's reaction to what we build out here.

Good point. I think you have to have a healthy balance in any creative company. Unchecked creativity means bankruptcy while managing by spreadsheet equals stagnation.
 

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