UNCgolf
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I agree, but I don't think BatB is any of those things. I don't think Navi River Journey is either (well, it's anticlimactic, but not boring or empty).
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Tokyo's Beauty & the Beast... Better than Ratatouille?
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I agree, but I don't think BatB is any of those things. I don't think Navi River Journey is either (well, it's anticlimactic, but not boring or empty).
Giss Neric
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More likely most of the budget went on the animatronics and all that is left was used for the rest of the ride. At least with ROTR, it's a combination of great animatronics and great ride (if it was working 100%).
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Of course you don't.
That's valid. Gosh, imagine how amazing an audio animatronic show like CBJ, COP, or AA would be today if EVERY AA was that impressive.
Giss Neric
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Totally agree. But first they need to get foot traffic in those attractions first not only from fans but also from casual visitors before Imagineering can be motivated to at least update them. They couldn't even update Muppets 3D or Philharmagic.
Ldno
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In Tokyo it’s basically in Fantasyland, they even have the same Gaston’s Tavern outside, all they have to do is port it over and game Over, the thing that threw me off was the Japanese audio but it’s understandable, feels like Disney will bring this over to MK’s Fantasyland in the future, i mean the outside is already done!
HongKongFooy
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Close to every time there is a comparison of what Tokyo gets to what USA parks get I feel like Charlie Brown at Halloween:
"I got a rock"
"I got a rock"
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Foot traffic comes with a renovation that big. It’d be like CBJ opening again in the 70s when the technology was just as impressive then, as brand new animatronics are today.
They may not have updated the ones you listed, but they took the time to update Canada and China.
Parker in NYC
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Hall of Presidents isn't boring. Granted, I haven't been in a while.
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
In comparison to American Adventure, it definitely doesn’t hit the mark.
Parker in NYC
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Well, American Adventure is better than most attractions at WDW, much less HoP.
Raineman
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I do like reading posts discussing new Disney attractions, but I think there is one thing that must be understood while discussing new attractions, especially one like this that is in another country-unless you have been on the attraction, you can only make a partial judgement on the attraction, as watching it on YouTube from the camera’s POV can be worlds away from experiencing the attraction first hand. For example, I’m sure riding RoTR is completely different than watching a YouTube POV video.
Tim Lohr
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I haven't seen either in person, so I don't judge them too much based on videos, but I would've rather seen The Beauty and the Beast ride in Epcot's France pavilion because it fit the "old world", pre-World War 1 theme of World Showcase. Ratatouille is story created by Pixar, and set in "contemporary" Paris, the original "timeless fairy tale" of Beauty and the Beast is from France, and apart of real French culture, which why the Disney film makes so many references to that, but that's the sort of thing that World Showcase is supposed to be about.
People complain that Frozen doesn't belong in The Norway pavilion because the story is not originally from Norway, but I think the "timeless fairy tale" look of Frozen better fits the Norway pavilion, than the "green wall carpet" queue, and the "off shore oil rig which was stolen from CommuniCore" ending of Maelstrom.
I liked how the original EPCOT Center was "A World of the Future" in the front, and "A World of the Past" in the back. With Ratatouille in the France Pavilion they're abandoning that, and it's basically just a modern version of "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride". To me "screen based" rides are just the new "painted flats" ...I'll always rather see AA figures with a catchy song, then "getting whipped around in the dark" and I'm not real impressed with any of the videos of these "trackless rides", though I've never been on one myself
People complain that Frozen doesn't belong in The Norway pavilion because the story is not originally from Norway, but I think the "timeless fairy tale" look of Frozen better fits the Norway pavilion, than the "green wall carpet" queue, and the "off shore oil rig which was stolen from CommuniCore" ending of Maelstrom.
I liked how the original EPCOT Center was "A World of the Future" in the front, and "A World of the Past" in the back. With Ratatouille in the France Pavilion they're abandoning that, and it's basically just a modern version of "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride". To me "screen based" rides are just the new "painted flats" ...I'll always rather see AA figures with a catchy song, then "getting whipped around in the dark" and I'm not real impressed with any of the videos of these "trackless rides", though I've never been on one myself
Very true.
Ldno
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We are also missing the queue and pre show perspective, it’s almost as long as RotR when you add those Up, I was shocked when I saw pictures of the ”inside” the castle queue, it was amazing.
Like someone mentioned above, watching a video is not the same as riding, the ballroom sequence might be better than Runaway’s railwaY in terms of car movement, but we will see, there’s so much we haven’t seen other than the ”ride” perspective.
The ride itself is no Rise though. LPS dancing around square room after square room with something in the middle does not make a great attraction.
EPCOTCenterLover
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If I lived in Tokyo, every visit to the castle park would begin and end with this ride. It could be better, but I’d still rate it an impressive E Ticket experience!
Giss Neric
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Another POV with queue and preshow. It's so hard to search for these as the titles are in Japanese.
Another one
Tokyo also has the better A.S.S.
Another one
Tokyo also has the better A.S.S.
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FettFan
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BatB is nice, but I think that Mystic Manor still reigns supreme simply because of how dense it is.
After Be Our Guest, the rest of the ride falls rather flat. In fact the "Something There" sequence in the snow reminded me of the frozen lake scene in Peter Jackson's King Kong that went on FOREVER.
Meanwhile, Gaston's villager revolt is just tacked on as a transition.
That's the one point where they SHOULD have gone absolutely NUTS with the animatronics.
Mystic Manor has suits of armor coming alive, man-eating plants, vengeful tiki gods shooting at you with blow-darts, and a monkey god statue that comes to life and shreds the room with a tornado.
BatB has....the wardrobe holding back a door with angry villagers impotently poking their weapons through a crack. Gaston is only seen as a projected shadow. The Beast dies, but we don't see Gaston actually stab him. He's just dead, presumably because the rose wilted, so that's the end.
But I still think it's better than Ratatouille. Because this actually DOES something.
britain
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A much better video. And, I'm sure, a better representation of the experience. There are little things happening right and left during the Mob Attack / Transformation scene. It's not just a tunnel with the wardrobe. Yes, it would be nice if there were some representation of the fight against the mob, but it's fine. All fine. Looks like a very nice attraction that will probably be at the top of some people's lists.
And it would be nice if it made its way to the states somehow, but I still prefer Rat in Epcot.
Fine? They brushed over a pivotal part of the story. The one part that had the chance to do something amazing and it got paid lip service.
I rode Rat a few times 3 days ago and would still rank it higher.