Tokyo Disneyland Resort Expansion

WaltWiz1901

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And without an elevator like Rise, no elevation/terrain changes would be allowed, which is played to great effect here with the lift corresponding with riders ascending the mountain with Elsa.
Not too steep, mind, but Skull Island at IoA is trackless and manages to work in a few elevation changes. Not sure if it's been experimented with Disney's LPS system internally, though
 

andre85

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One big missed opportunity: For the hill scene with Elsa leading to her frozen palace, I REALLY wish she walked up the hill alongside you, like how she does in the movie, instead of standing awkwardly in place. It would have been an amazing effect and been a much better transition to the next scene. Yes, I realize this would have been a tricky effect to achieve, but it would have been AMAZING if they had pulled it off (not too much unlike the bouncing Br'er Rabbit in Splash Mountain).
 

ThemeParkTraveller

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Not too steep, mind, but Skull Island at IoA is trackless and manages to work in a few elevation changes. Not sure if it's been experimented with Disney's LPS system internally, though

I think it helps that Skull Island is completely linear. Given how complex the ride profiles are for Disney's trackless attractions, I imagine elevation changes were deemed too unreliable other than via the elevator method in Rise. This could be solved in the future with a motion base to simulate vertical motion.
 

TalkToEthan

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but Skull Island at IoA is trackless and manages to work in a few elevation changes.

Hmmmm???

If you’re talking about an appreciable change in elevation then I can’t agree with you at all here.

I’ve been on that Kong perhaps 5 times and I’m not saying those jeeps/transports travel on a semi perfect plane but nowhere do I remember going “uphill” or “downhill” along the pathway.
 

andre85

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I think it helps that Skull Island is completely linear. Given how complex the ride profiles are for Disney's trackless attractions, I imagine elevation changes were deemed too unreliable other than via the elevator method in Rise. This could be solved in the future with a motion base to simulate vertical motion.

True! Though the potential issue with that is the effect being ruined by other vehicles in view (Indiana Jones has this issue to a small degree when you can see vehicles ahead on the bridge), though the obviously flat floor might also be a dead giveaway lol (though narrow corridors and darker lighting could help conceal this)
 

aleh021

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Until people actually ride it and share HQ videos or their reviews, we will then have better opinions on the new rides.

Even then though - I will say this. Rides like Guardians (Epcot), Flight of Passage, or even Pirates (Shanghai) look awful on video. But when experiencing it in person first hand, they're some of the best rides Disney has made to date.
 
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andre85

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Until people actually ride it and share HQ videos or their reviews, we will then have a better opinions on the new rides.

Even then though - I will say this. Rides like Guardians (Epcot), Flight of Passage, or even Pirates (Shanghai) look awful on video. But when experiencing it in person first hand, they're some of the best rides Disney has made to date.

Definitely a great point to keep in mind
 

ThemeParkTraveller

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Until people actually ride it and share HQ videos or their reviews, we will then have better opinions on the new rides.

Even then though - I will say this. Rides like Guardians (Epcot), Flight of Passage, or even Pirates (Shanghai) look awful on video. But when experiencing it in person first hand, they're some of the best rides Disney has made to date.

Peter Pan will be especially prone to this as it's also in 3D, making the screen effects look even worse on video.
 

mickEblu

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Until people actually ride it and share HQ videos or their reviews, we will then have better opinions on the new rides.

Even then though - I will say this. Rides like Guardians (Epcot), Flight of Passage, or even Pirates (Shanghai) look awful on video. But when experiencing it in person first hand, they're some of the best rides Disney has made to date.

Although I can understand the sentiment, you don't need a clearer video to understand that the pacing and flow is bad. Or that they wasted money on 10 Elsa AA's when they could have used some of that to bring more life to the scenes. Or that they should have focused more on adventure and less on character interactions on a theme park ride. Im really concerned and confused with modern WDI. It seems that they have started taking the idea of "story telling" way too literally.

I think Shanghai POTC looks pretty great on video.
 

Nland316

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How is seeing Elsa at the top of the mountain in a huge vista now a wow moment? Or her freezing the town? Or freezing Anna? Those are incredible moments. I agree some scenes (mainly the interior castle scenes) seem barren, but I don’t think the ride lacks wow-moments, and that’s even without the thawing scene being captured in either of the videos we have.


WOW moments in the same vain as the beast transformation, I’d say it’s pretty lacking. Only am using that comparison since it’s a very similar style of ride.

The examples you cited are cool, but it just didn’t really hit for me. While the ride does have neat effects, I think it just doesn’t come together as impressive as it should. I also think that partially the ride has to simmer a bit for me to really evaluate how I feel about it + experience it in person + watch a higher quality video. So it’s not quite a set in stone opinion, just some initial reactions.

The vibe just came across as a really well done FL dark ride — not an E-ticket like it was made out to sound like.

Still a great ride, but nothing jaw dropping.

 

ThemeParkTraveller

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Although I can understand the sentiment, you don't need a clearer video to understand that the pacing and flow is bad. Or that they wasted money on 10 Elsa AA's when they could have used some of that to bring more life to the scenes. Or that they should have focused more on adventure and less on character interactions on a theme park ride.

That's all subjective though. It's interesting because the reviews out of Japan are incredibly positive compared to here. The elaborate, book report style re-telling is hitting all the notes for them.
 

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