ThemeParkTraveller
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From people who have ridden. That includes cast members, their families, and I believe a small number of the general public who received invites.
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Tokyo Disneyland Resort Expansion
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From people who have ridden. That includes cast members, their families, and I believe a small number of the general public who received invites.
TalkToEthan
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Oh absolutely I agree with your point in the big picture
((to be clear I’m not saying I necessarily agree with your specific criticisms of Frozen— maybe I do, maybe I don’t; I’m unsure….. but I fully believe one does not have to complete the 500 piece puzzle to understand the picture. If it’s missing 28 random pieces we close to always would know what the final picture looks like and thus can safely draw conclusions)
SplashJacket
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We‘ve seen all of the ride’s drops.
1. First drop is backwards and small after Do you want to build a snowman rotating turntable
2. Second drop is forwards after coronation turntable
3. Third drop is backwards after Elsa freezes Anna’s heart
4. Fourth drop is forward after a turntable scene that we haven’t seen.
As far as I can tell, there’s one lift hill going up the mountain with Elsa, and that elevation gets removed from the backward and then forward drops that follow it.
2. Second drop is forwards after coronation turntable
3. Third drop is backwards after Elsa freezes Anna’s heart
4. Fourth drop is forward after a turntable scene that we haven’t seen.
As far as I can tell, there’s one lift hill going up the mountain with Elsa, and that elevation gets removed from the backward and then forward drops that follow it.
Disgruntled Walt
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So there is no BIG drop? I didn't really think there would be, but I didn't realize we'd lost that much elevation by that point, so I assumed there would be something like a POTC level.
SplashJacket
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I believe the final drop is POTC sized, you just don’t notice how small POTC’s drop is since it’s dark.
Disgruntled Walt
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Ah
thanks
TheCoasterNerd
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PiratesMansion
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I imagine what the average Japanese guest wants/expects out of these rides is a bit different from the American/European viewpoint predominantly seen here.
I also think people are too quick in general to form opinions from POVs (regardless of quality level) rather than from actually riding attractions.
To me, making a judgment based on a POV is an impression of an impression, but I know the internet largely has a different view on these things than I do. Ah well. In the meantime, I'll continue to avoid spoilers and hope that if/when I ever get back there, these rides will blow me away.
I also think people are too quick in general to form opinions from POVs (regardless of quality level) rather than from actually riding attractions.
To me, making a judgment based on a POV is an impression of an impression, but I know the internet largely has a different view on these things than I do. Ah well. In the meantime, I'll continue to avoid spoilers and hope that if/when I ever get back there, these rides will blow me away.
mickEblu
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I see. In other words people that are very excited to have been invited to be one of the first to ride or people that are connected to/work for Disney. Not to say that some of these people don’t genuinely love it but I wouldn’t really hang my hat on those reviews.
ThemeParkTraveller
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I agree, but the Japanese social media reactions from people watching the leaked video largely share the same sentiments. I think this might just be a cultural thing. The Japanese fans have always had a greater affinity to the characters, which explains why this storytelling format seems to work very well for them. And for better or worse, this probably means we are unlikely to see a major departure from this format for future dark rides there.
mickEblu
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It’s possible I guess. I don’t known enough about Japanese culture or Japanese Disney fans. But I do know people in general and people would tend to give a review bonus points for the reasons mentioned in my last post.
So they want a passive ride filled with small character interactions vs something more adventurous and exciting with the same characters? I don’t think they made the ride like that because it’s what Japanese people want. The made it that way because WDI isn’t in on their A game. Characters would be present in any iteration of a Frozen ride.
It’s possible I guess. I don’t known enough about Japanese culture or Japanese Disney fans. But I do know people in general and people would tend to give a review bonus points for the reasons mentioned in my last post.
So they want a passive ride filled with small character interactions vs something more adventurous and exciting with the same characters? I don’t think they made the ride like that because it’s what Japanese people want. The made it that way because WDI isn’t in on their A game. Characters would be present in any iteration of a Frozen ride.
SplashJacket
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This is a crazy unsubstantiated claim
If anything, this is WDI on their A game. When they’re allowed to do what they went how they want it. It seems you’re describing FEA, not this ride. Now FEA, now that’s a ride where WDI wasn’t allowed to be on their A-game.
mickEblu
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I disagree
Disgruntled Walt
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I think it's really hard to tell what it's like on an Instagram video. It's way too narrow to get the full scope of what's going on.
ThemeParkTraveller
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The glorified meet-and-greet criticism is much more apt for FEA in my opinion, with its series of upbeat vignettes strung together without the conflicts you expect in a compelling story.
Animaniac93-98
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Not a fan of such a literal book report, even more than BatB which starts the ride at "Be Our Guest" and skims over the climax. They had a blank slate to create something truly original, and just decided on a longer version of FEA.
It's possible to both appreciate the hardware on display, and recognize this was an uncreative choice for a new ride.
I'm still more interested in Peter Pan and Rapunzel.
It's possible to both appreciate the hardware on display, and recognize this was an uncreative choice for a new ride.
I'm still more interested in Peter Pan and Rapunzel.
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Supersnow84
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I will say the other consideration is that this is also technically the lands headliner
Of course it’s not the same as a 2 ride land where there is a specific headliner like say pandora but everything we know up till now has said this is the biggest of the 4 rides
It doesn’t feel like a new top headliner for DisneySea to me
Of course it’s not the same as a 2 ride land where there is a specific headliner like say pandora but everything we know up till now has said this is the biggest of the 4 rides
It doesn’t feel like a new top headliner for DisneySea to me
ThemeParkTraveller
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It has the biggest show building of the rides, but I've heard Peter Pan actually cost more than Frozen because of the new tech.
HairyChest
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Just saw the tangled ride photo leak on youtube.
Disgruntled Walt
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Where, I can't find it?