Time for the war to begin.

brb1006

brb1006

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Disneyhead'71 said:
Universal is planning a park that will be in the running for best in the world (They appear to be on an IP buying spree). Plop that down next to the convention center with a CityWalk 2.0 that has a full blown version of Wicked, a 4 star "Golf Channel" Resort with a state of the art course, 4 more resorts and, of course, another water park. Throw in the Cirque and DreamWorks resorts coming to the former wet n wild land and the 10 or so Es & Ds coming to the existing parks and were getting somewhere.

And that is just phase one.

Universal is grooving on their own thing.
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And we haven't even seen any new info on Nintendoland yet. :)
 
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larandtra

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Competition between businesses "SHOULD" create better options on both ends for guests. We shall see what happens but its not a war because BOTH will win. The question is will that competition drive prices down and ingenuity up or will they both just create average things and keep everyone coming back. Thus far its been the latter.
 
ppete1975

ppete1975

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Disneyhead'71 said:
There is also some litigation tying up another 500 acres or so. It should be cleared up this month. If Uni gets what they want, they'll have close to 1000 acres.
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will that connect the land? My issue is the new purchase isn't close enough to walk not sure on safety (I haven't looked at logistics), I doubt they want to mess with the logistics a monorail or sky bucket would cause, so how do you connect? Busses? That seems such a dirty old fashioned thing that would take you out of the theme park haze and back into the real world. Id love to see monorail but I don't see it happening.
 
bhg469

bhg469

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Disneyhead'71 said:
Universal has all the purple. They want all the green.
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The court case is sometime this month, so we'll know soon.
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The students in that High school must have a hard time concentrating knowing they are right next to a theme park. I magine when the theme park is surrounding them on 3 sides!!! Sort of makes that creepy roller rink that was near my school seem even more sad.
 
bhg469

bhg469

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ppete1975 said:
will that connect the land? My issue is the new purchase isn't close enough to walk not sure on safety (I haven't looked at logistics), I doubt they want to mess with the logistics a monorail or sky bucket would cause, so how do you connect? Busses? That seems such a dirty old fashioned thing that would take you out of the theme park haze and back into the real world. Id love to see monorail but I don't see it happening.
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Maybe they do want to mess with the logistics of a monorail. That would be a very bold and awesome move considering Disney's new transportation system is not exactly the best idea they could have come up with.
 
Notes from Neverland

Notes from Neverland

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Here's my question:
Did Disney know about Universal's plans and was what they've announced so far (Star Wars, Epcot, etc) meant to head that off? Or are we expecting Disney to react in unannounced ways now that Universal's intentions are known? Essentially, does Disney have more to roll out or are they counting on what's been announced?
 
marni1971

marni1971

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TheDude23 said:
Essentially, does Disney have more to roll out or are they counting on what's been announced?
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So far as I know (which isn't everything) there is nothing Earth shattering on the horizon. There may be one more technologically advanced E ticket that's no where near green lit or even in blue sky but it's mainly small to medium additions and refreshes.

IF Comcast managed to build a park comparable to IOA and crossed it with the MK, and IF they get the advertising right maybe Disney will think again.
 
bhg469

bhg469

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marni1971 said:
So far as I know (which isn't everything) there is nothing Earth shattering on the horizon. There may be one more technologically advanced E ticket that's no where near green lit or even in blue sky but it's mainly small to medium additions and refreshes.

IF Comcast managed to build a park comparable to IOA and crossed it with the MK, and IF they get the advertising right maybe Disney will think again.
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I think you would be a very interesting person to chat with after a few cocktails.
 
Notes from Neverland

Notes from Neverland

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marni1971 said:
So far as I know (which isn't everything) there is nothing Earth shattering on the horizon. There may be one more technologically advanced E ticket that's no where near green lit or even in blue sky but it's mainly small to medium additions and refreshes.

IF Comcast managed to build a park comparable to IOA and crossed it with the MK, and IF they get the advertising right maybe Disney will think again.
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As always, appreciate the response / info.
 
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seascape

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Original Poster
Seaworld's stock keeps falling and it's market cap is now less than 1 billion. They are not going to survive and need lots of help.
 
DisneyDaver

DisneyDaver

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seascape said:
With Universal's purchase of an additional 100 acres, they now have enough land for 2 more gates, a new City Walk and more hotels. They will go ahead with this soon, so Disney must act now. Universal is serious about equalling what Disney currently has so the only way to keep it's lead is for Disney to start an all-out war.

Disney should buy Seaworld, build a 5th gate based on villans and add scare zones for Holloween and of course more hotel rooms. They need to do this now and not wait for Universals move. SeaWorld could be used both as an extra thing to do for people visiting WDW and Southern California and while also working as a regional park operator. It would be a win win for Disney and Seaworld.

Disney still has a major lead and can't afford to let Universal continue to gain on them. Taking these steps would not only add gates but go after Universal on their Halloween Horror nights without hurting the current Not so scary Halloween Party. The time is now for the real war to begin.
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There is no need for a 5th gate at WDW and no reason to buy SeaWorld. Those plans would just create more of a mess than exists today.

What WDW needs to do is:

(1) complete AK and DHS (or whatever the new name will be) so they are filled with rides, shows and attractions;

(2) add a few quality rides to MK;

(3) redo (in a way consistent with the theme) and add a few attractions to Future World at Epcot and add a number of attractions to World Showcase.

Adding a 5th Gate or a controversial park like SeaWorld will just make the current situation and problems worse.

I do, however, agree with you that an adult themed Halloween Party at DHS would be a great addition to WDW.
 
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Pixieish

Pixieish

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DisneyDaver said:
There is no need for a 5th gate at WDW and no reason to buy SeaWorld. Those plans would just create more of a mess than exists today.

What WDW needs to do is:

(1) complete AK and DHS (or whatever the new name will be) so they are filled with rides, shows and attractions;

(2) add a few quality rides to MK;

(3) redo (in a way consistent with the theme) and add a few attractions to Future World at Epcot and add a number of attractions to World Showcase.

Add a 5th Gate or a controversial park like SeaWorld will just make the current situation and problems worse.

I do, however, agree with you that an adult themed Halloween Party at DHS would be a great addition to WDW.
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That's easy. In-room baby-sitting and a return of Pleasure Island with special events for the late-year holidays. :)
 

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