'Tigger' arrested on molestation charges

ACE

New Member
Originally posted by Testtrack321
Untill I see proof, I am very skeptical. I doubt that this happened mostly because the amounts of stupid lawsuits. If there is video, 3rd party witnesses, or photos, then I'll make up my mind. Untill then, good luck to Tigger.

Where do you folks keep getting this lawsuit stuff? There hasn't been a lawsuit filed, just criminal charges against the person who plays Tigger.

I don't understand why it's so hard for folks to believe that someone who works for Disney could do this. If you were a person who likes to do this sort of thing, wouldn't being a character at a theme park be a great place to work. You could touch someone inappropriately and claim it was an accident if they said anything.

ACE
 

ACE

New Member
Originally posted by andre85
Well duh, since he knows so much more than me, on apparently everything.

Dude the only person making you look bad is yourself.

Personally, I think antoinebusby does know more than you on everything. But that is my opinion and I am allowed to have it.:lol:

I'm done with you. Take care of yourself and say high to your parole officer for me.

:wave: ACE
 

imagineer boy

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by andre85
Well duh, since he knows so much more than me, on apparently everything.

That's because you're a troll. Trolls have a particularly low intelegence. Its what I've learned from Trollology.:D
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
Wow, didnt take long for this to get ugly.

Just what WDW needs, another black eye. This will get way too much media attention and when the truth finally comes out, the truth wont get the same sort of play.

Last thing this company needs is thinking that its not safe to bring their kids to Disney World.
 

taholden

New Member
Originally posted by PhotoDave219
Wow, didnt take long for this to get ugly.

Just what WDW needs, another black eye. This will get way too much media attention and when the truth finally comes out, the truth wont get the same sort of play.

Last thing this company needs is thinking that its not safe to bring their kids to Disney World.

I don't think that this will be viewed in that context. Disney fully cooperated with the investigation and came up with whoever was in the costume at that time. If this gets alot of media attention they just need to come out and say they are actively participating in the investigation and that everyone is guilty until proven innocent.

One thing that plays in the favor of the victim is that they did not actively pursue the media. The only way that the orlando sentinel found out was because a police report was filed. This victim is not pursuing a civil matter that we know of or media attention.
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
Thats a good thing, but somehow i dont see Major, sensationalistic cable news networks having the same restraint.

All in all, this sort of thing is intolerable. This type of behavior goes against everything that Disney stands for.
 

KRZ4WDW

New Member
When I had breakfast at a restaurant at the Grand Californian hotel at DCA I got a very thourough massage from Pluto (my favorite character). At first I was like, "This is kind of weird" :lookaroun

But then I thought, "Wow, this feels really good!" But there was no groping. That would be terrible if that really happened.
 

Main Street USA

Well-Known Member
My wife had a similar situation as Gary's wife. SHe swears up and down, and she will until the day she dies, that after the a parade at MK, Pluto was trailing the final float, and when he came over, she gave him a hug, and when she let go, and he grabbed the breast. :lol:

Like Gary and his wife, we thought it was hilarious!:)
 

SusanAnne

Active Member
I'm sure this is quite possible, however as a mother of an 11 year old, I watch very closely when my daughter gets her picture taken with any character. I like to expect the best of people, but its a real world, with many opportunities.
 

Lilmama21

New Member
I'm surprised how many of yall spoke up against the alleged victim, even throwing out "Innocent until proven guilty". I've been a 'victim' many times (HS teacher, strangers, coworker), and almost every single female I know has been at least once in their life by a wide range of different people (doctors to athletes to teachers). I don't know anyone that has reported it (groping, I know people that haven't reported rape either, myself included, but I'm talking groping), but it happened.

I find it so disturbing (but expected I suppose) that the girl and her mother are automatically dismissed - why? Because it was Disney? And just because one idiot made a false accusation once (or more than once even) doesn't mean every claim is untrue. I just don't get the automatic disgust towards the 13 yr old and her mother. Maybe we could just let it play out and see what comes of this before we jump to conclusions. I think if some people would take a different attitude, we wouldn't have so many scared girls out there.

Sidenote: wish I hadn't opened that link. I like to pretend that all the people inside the costumes are nonscary nice people. Will probably avoid Tigger now :)
 

andromedaslove

New Member
Just my opinion

First of all, you can't judge what type of person he is just based on a mugshot. Let's just say the man didn't do it, and he was upset that he had been arrested and was being accused of molesting a child and her mother. He probably would have been crying. At least most people I know would have been. I don't want to sound snotty but I am usually a pretty good looking woman, now let me cry for any good amount of time and I look like death warmed over.

Secondly, If someone were to intentionally try to fondle a guest at WDW, why would they do it in front of 2 other characters, a photographer, and the person that escorts the characters, not to mention all of the other guests that were in the room. Doesn't make sense to me. If I wanted to do something like that I would avoid doing it when there were that many people around.

I truly hope that this is not true. If it is though I feel so badly for the child and her mother. My fear though is that this is either a big misunderstanding and it was truly an accident, or that these people are looking for something in return.
 

strobe

New Member
Originally posted by andre85
Come on, most of these “rapes” are fictitious anyway.


You have no idea how incorrect that statement is. Come up here to Detroit, I'll take you over to the s.e.x crimes unit for a day. After a few hours there, I would like to hear you repeat that statement.

I'm not saying that this never happens, but for you to say most rapes are fictitious is completely factually wrong.

In this particular case, I don't think there is ANYTHING to argue about yet. The story hasn't even been told yet, and everyone is already jumping to conclusions and fighting. It's ridiculous - let's hold off until the facts are presented. It's absolutely impossible for anyone to take an educated position at this early point in the investigation - no matter which way your emotions pull you.

But Andre - I will repeat my earlier statement, you have NO IDEA how many s.e.x crimes occur a day and how unbelievably brutal they can be. Once you see it with your own eyes, you would never think the way you are again -- and I can promise you that.
 

Senderella

Member
Re: Just my opinion

Secondly, If someone were to intentionally try to fondle a guest at WDW, why would they do it in front of 2 other characters, a photographer, and the person that escorts the characters, not to mention all of the other guests that were in the room. Doesn't make sense to me. If I wanted to do something like that I would avoid doing it when there were that many people around. [/B]


Thats what stumped me. Then again, those suits may be so thick you can't exactly see a person's hand movement from the outside through the suit. do we actually have any CMs here on the boards that have worn the suits before that could maybe clarify this one?


I truly hope that this is not true. If it is though I feel so badly for the child and her mother. My fear though is that this is either a big misunderstanding and it was truly an accident, or that these people are looking for something in return. [/B]


ditto to that.
 

TravisMT81

Well-Known Member
what if he is innocent, he no longer has a job and has a record. Who knows what happen but it just shows how sad this world is.
 

Tocpe

Member
Geppetto's a perv too!

I thought I'd warn all ya out there to watch out for Geppetto too! :animwink:

While my wife and I were on our Honeymoon back in Aug 03 we were having our pics taken with the characters in Epcot. She got her pic taken with Geppetto and well let's just say the 'ol guy got a litttttle to "friendly" with the wife. :lol:

So keep an eye out for frisky tiggers and old Italian puppet makers while in WDW... :animwink:
 

Senderella

Member
Originally posted by TravisM
what if he is innocent, he no longer has a job and has a record. Who knows what happen but it just shows how sad this world is.


Very true Travis. There was something like this at my old jr high recently. One of the coaches was said to have "sexually molested/harassed" a female student. It probably didn't help that nobody liked him (he was there in my day...I didn't like him myself). Luckily he had a wife who stood by him and a dang good defense lawyer (my father in law). Turns out it never happened... He got off and I think he's still working there. What's really sad is when these sorts of allegations are brought against innocent people. I don't think they understand the ramifications something like this could have on a persons life they've worked hard to achieve.

Now in cases if the person *is* in fact guilty.... well thats their own dumb butt decision & they ought to pay the price. Period.

Sad thing is everyone's guilty until proven innocent. I'm willing to bet this guy isn't gonna be able to afford a good attorney and if he is innocent, he's gonna go through the ringer.
 

Senderella

Member
Sad thing is everyone's guilty until proven innocent. I'm willing to bet this guy isn't gonna be able to afford a good attorney and if he is innocent, he's gonna go through the ringer. [/B]



Sorry incomplete thought here......

Sad thing is everyone's guilty until proven innocent regardless of how wrong it is.
 

paulcmartens

Account Suspended
Re: Re: Just my opinion

Originally posted by Senderella
Thats what stumped me. Then again, those suits may be so thick you can't exactly see a person's hand movement from the outside through the suit. do we actually have any CMs here on the boards that have worn the suits before that could maybe clarify this one?
ditto to that.

That's my question as well...can you really feel a person's breast through that costume...or is there not that much padding in the paws of Tigger?

Innocent until proven guilty for both parties...we can't assume one is innocent because its 'disney'...and we can't assume the women are money grubbing folks either.

We have yet to hear 'tigger' speak. I'd be curious as to what he says. I find the response by disney rather harsh. Suspending without pay? That sounds like a judgment to me.
 

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