MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

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I think they are afraid of opening standby because the attraction is simply not reliable enough.
I'm inclined to disagree. All attractions break down here and there. Sure, TBA breaks down more than others, but the VQ system gives the guest a sense of entitlement (despite the terms of Virtual Queue saying that having a boarding group is not a guarantee to ride -- no one reads that). When they secure a VQ and the queue they are in gets cleared out due to a downtime, they will be more angry than if they just queued up normally.
 

Disstevefan1

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I'm inclined to disagree. All attractions break down here and there. Sure, TBA breaks down more than others, but the VQ system gives the guest a sense of entitlement (despite the terms of Virtual Queue saying that having a boarding group is not a guarantee to ride -- no one reads that). When they secure a VQ and the queue they are in gets cleared out due to a downtime, they will be more angry than if they just queued up normally.
Good point.

If I win the Tiana lottery and my return time is 6 hours away and I wait the six hours and it goes down I am more angry than if I just jumped in the standby at random and it went down.

My thinking is was I assume the required throughput is higher when stand by is open and there could be even worse and more bad guest experiences.
 

SuddenStorm

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I'm enjoying these Imagineering puff pieces. Really helps to put a face to the disaster. Now we know by name some of the Imagineers responsible for this.

Let's not forget the ride through of Anaheim's that as posted, where an Imagineer talked about how they partnered with a third party to design a figure... that's literally just a tail wiggling a bit.



Every piece of marketing, or interview with Imagineering for this attraction has been beyond tone deaf. It's absurd. Here's Carter talking about how the attraction is great because Tiana is a modern 20th century princess that people can relate to. Her story has layers.




Meanwhile, Here's Mr. Gordon talking about the concept and ride experience of Splash Mountain. Just listen to the passion he has for Disneyland, and how genuine he sounds. He doesn't take it too serious and sure as heck doesn't talk about how important it is that people relate to the characters on the ride because they're a 20th century princess and her story has layers.

 

Incomudro

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I'm enjoying these Imagineering puff pieces. Really helps to put a face to the disaster. Now we know by name some of the Imagineers responsible for this.

Let's not forget the ride through of Anaheim's that as posted, where an Imagineer talked about how they partnered with a third party to design a figure... that's literally just a tail wiggling a bit.



Every piece of marketing, or interview with Imagineering for this attraction has been beyond tone deaf. It's absurd. Here's Carter talking about how the attraction is great because Tiana is a modern 20th century princess that people can relate to. Her story has layers.




Meanwhile, Here's Mr. Gordon talking about the concept and ride experience of Splash Mountain. Just listen to the passion he has for Disneyland, and how genuine he sounds. He doesn't take it too serious and sure as heck doesn't talk about how important it is that people relate to the characters on the ride because they're a 20th century princess and her story has layers.


The current crop, though talented in some ways - just doesn't have the talent of whimsy, fun, storytelling etc., as the classic crop.
Add to that the insistence that messaging be of high importance.
 

disneyC97

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I'm enjoying these Imagineering puff pieces. Really helps to put a face to the disaster. Now we know by name some of the Imagineers responsible for this.

Let's not forget the ride through of Anaheim's that as posted, where an Imagineer talked about how they partnered with a third party to design a figure... that's literally just a tail wiggling a bit.



Every piece of marketing, or interview with Imagineering for this attraction has been beyond tone deaf. It's absurd. Here's Carter talking about how the attraction is great because Tiana is a modern 20th century princess that people can relate to. Her story has layers.




Meanwhile, Here's Mr. Gordon talking about the concept and ride experience of Splash Mountain. Just listen to the passion he has for Disneyland, and how genuine he sounds. He doesn't take it too serious and sure as heck doesn't talk about how important it is that people relate to the characters on the ride because they're a 20th century princess and her story has layers.


I couldn't get past the second "amazing" in that video.
 

dmc493

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I don’t love the notion of roasting some of the people in these videos who are early/mid tier roles but have a strong voice and are offered up to do these marketing videos. Im sure they do have a certain level of creative responsibility in each of their roles but the buck stops with project or imagineering leadership. By all means voice frustrations about any of them.
 

Brer Panther

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As it turns out, pretty much everything everyone was hoping this reskin would be was the original plan all along.

Not the first time where the higher-ups pushed for a lesser, more nonsensical direction than what was envisioned at first

I wonder how the "Louis chasing his trumpet" plotline falls into this. Was that their idea in-between the "adaptation of the film" idea and the bizarre non-plot we have now?
 

Incomudro

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As it turns out, pretty much everything everyone was hoping this reskin would be was the original plan all along.

Not the first time where the higher-ups pushed for a lesser, more nonsensical direction than what was envisioned at first

The film gave them all of the ingredients (unintentional pun) to make a great ride.
They even had Tony Baxter on hand to show them how to do it.
And they blew it.
They blew it because they thought they knew better.
 

mickEblu

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I’m sceptical that they ever considered a straight-up book-report style, especially as that would have meant portraying Tiana as a frog for most of the time, which caused some controversy even at the time of the film. But yes, I agree that they could have come up with something much, much better than what we’ve ended up with.

But what does “most of the time” really mean in reality on a log ride or any ride for that matter ? It could have just been 2-3 scenes between HDYD and Laughin Place that we zip by where’s she’s a frog. Pretty much for some of their adventures in the bayou. See one Tiana AA in human form on the first lifthill and one again during the finale in her green princess gown.

How many times do we see Alice or Peter Pan on their rides? Even a good book report ride will have you feeling like you ve been immersed in the setting from the story on your own adventure.
 
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