MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

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LittleBuford

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But what does “most of the time” really mean in reality on a log ride or any ride for that matter ? It could have just been 2-3 scenes between HDYD and Laughin Place that we zip by where’s she’s a frog. Pretty much for some of their adventures in the bayou. See one Tiana AA in human form on the first lifthill and one again during the finale in her green princess gown.

How many times do we see Alice or Peter Pan on their rides? Even a good book report ride will have you feeling like you ve been immersed in the setting from the story on your own adventure.
Fair enough. I was more convinced by the “Louis’ trumpet” leak. As much as people mocked that idea, I actually think it could have worked. In any case, I am extremely disappointed with what we now have and only hope that some major revisions are made to it in the not-too-distant future (though I doubt that’ll happen).
 

mickEblu

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Assuming the execution was good, following the story from the film would have fixed the main issues with this attraction. The awful story and dialogue, the lack of suspense leading up to and on the lifthill and the fact that the attraction doesn’t do PatF any justice. My favorite scene on the ride is the little outdoor bayou scene between the first two lift hills because IMO it’s the only scene in the entire attraction that was improved upon and it feels like something from the movie. You’d also get two fan favorite songs from the film that didn’t make it into PatF.

Anyway, at this point they know they failed. Just give Tony Baxter 100k and a green light and watch what he can do. They owe him that.
 

gerarar

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As one who tracks the VQ data, there's been a noticeable uptick in downtime over the past month or two. It's getting worse from a reliability perspective imo.

Just today it was closed from 10:30am - 4:28pm for an extended closure. That's abnormal and not per usual.
Finally one of the blogs picked up what I've been noticing the past 2-ish months.


Actually I wonder if the conversations in this exact thread the past week made BlogMickey to dig into the data as they often look at this site for scoops (and properly sourced!).
 

flyerjab

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Finally one of the blogs picked up what I've been noticing the past 2-ish months.


Actually I wonder if the conversations in this exact thread the past week made BlogMickey to dig into the data as they often look at this site for scoops (and properly sourced!).

LOL Currently being evacuated from Tiana’s in WDW. We were the last log down the hill.
 

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Fox&Hound

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What do you think a more movie based plot would look like for the ride? Did anyone map it out? I agree it would be better by 100%! Yes “Are you Ready?” For the lifthill/plunge is a total no brainer!
 

Tha Realest

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Had they worked in "Are you Ready?" this ride could have been a knock out.
What do you think a more movie based plot would look like for the ride? Did anyone map it out? I agree it would be better by 100%! Yes “Are you Ready?” For the lifthill/plunge is a total no brainer!
Please stop armchair imagineering the ride as you had hoped it existed, and just enjoy the oddly paced, unreliable attraction with chronically broken AAs as the Imagineers conceived and delivered it.
 

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Long-Forgotten
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I know it's not "in the cards" but Disney should attempt to acknowledge the shortcomings of Tiana's Bayou Adventure and commit to fixing its many issues. They should close it down temporarily to address these problems to bring it up to their own standards, or better still, consider completely overhauling the attraction from the ground up. If undertaken, the reimagined attraction could be framed as a "Grand Re-opening" event to generate excitement among disgruntled PATF/park fans and to rebuild some goodwill following negative reviews and the initial and persistent plague of show quality failures.

It's time Disney. Step up and commit to fixing this attraction. It's terrible.
 

James Alucobond

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I know it's not "in the cards" but Disney should attempt to acknowledge the shortcomings of Tiana's Bayou Adventure and commit to fixing its many issues. They should close it down temporarily to address these problems to bring it up to their own standards, or better still, consider completely overhauling the attraction from the ground up. If undertaken, the reimagined attraction could be framed as a "Grand Re-opening" event to generate excitement among disgruntled PATF/park fans and to rebuild some goodwill following negative reviews and the initial and persistent plague of show quality failures.

It's time Disney. Step up and commit to fixing this attraction. It's terrible.
They will more likely quietly attempt to fix persistent operational issues during normally scheduled downtime, which is not far off. They're not re-doing it.
 

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They will more likely quietly attempt to fix persistent operational issues during normally scheduled downtime, which is not far off. They're not re-doing it.
Anything to avoid admitting failure. I can understand that. But, they need to pivot and explore alternative methods. Their current efforts are not yielding any improvements. The only option I see is closure. Temporary or extended until the ride is actually show-ready and consistently running as it should.

(IMHO)
 
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flyerjab

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They will more likely quietly attempt to fix persistent operational issues during normally scheduled downtime, which is not far off. They're not re-doing it.
I hope that some of the money allocated to WDW over the next several years goes to improving their maintenance and continued upkeep of the parks. I’m sorry, but at what they charge, I should be able to see the Kylo AA work at the end of RotR for once, or have the AAs work consistently for Tiana’s, or the effects on BTM work (I would love to know how many don’t), etc. I don’t expect perfection, but I expect a better batting average than what they are currently hitting.
 

HauntedPirate

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I'm enjoying these Imagineering puff pieces. Really helps to put a face to the disaster. Now we know by name some of the Imagineers responsible for this.

Let's not forget the ride through of Anaheim's that as posted, where an Imagineer talked about how they partnered with a third party to design a figure... that's literally just a tail wiggling a bit.



Every piece of marketing, or interview with Imagineering for this attraction has been beyond tone deaf. It's absurd. Here's Carter talking about how the attraction is great because Tiana is a modern 20th century princess that people can relate to. Her story has layers.




Meanwhile, Here's Mr. Gordon talking about the concept and ride experience of Splash Mountain. Just listen to the passion he has for Disneyland, and how genuine he sounds. He doesn't take it too serious and sure as heck doesn't talk about how important it is that people relate to the characters on the ride because they're a 20th century princess and her story has layers.


The “reasoning” presented for Tiana is astoundingly bad. She’s “20th century”, “has layers”, and “has goals and dreams”?? THAT is the best she can come up with?! The words I’d like to use would be censored.
 

Disgruntled Walt

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The more I think about this attraction, the more I realize just what a failure it is on almost every front. It's a catastrophic failure for WDI, and it should have every Disney fan extremely concerned about the quality of the future attractions.

I realize not everyone will agree with me on every part of this, but bear with me. I am not just being a TBA hater.

The Concept/Storyline - Most people thought TBA was going to tell the story of PatF overlaid on Splash Mountain's bones. By and large, the general sentiment on these boards (but not my sentiment) was excitement and curiosity to see what modern Imagineering could do with this storyline. I, being my Disgruntled Self, was bemoaning the loss of Splash Mountain still, but even I can admit that the idea of seeing a full-size Dr. Facilier animatronic would be terrifying in the good kind of Carnotaurus-terrifying way. Most everyone thought this is what we were going to get. Instead, we began to have details shared about the plot of the attraction. It takes place after the movie. Ok, so it's the exciting adventure that happens next? Dr. Facilier somehow returns? A different voodoo villain takes his place, perhaps? No. Tiana has expanded her business and is preparing a party. Something goes awry in the party prep. Huzzah. There's your storyline for one of the tentpole attractions of the Magic Kingdom/Disneyland. Sure, there are lots of extra details like Tiana's father's WWI service and the still, silent kleptomaniacal armadillo, but what do these actually contribute to the overall storyline of the attraction? Very little. And the armadillo actively annoys me (sorry, I'll try to keep this impersonal from now on).

Exterior - This was divisive, to be sure. The initial concept art indicated we'd be getting a boat on top of the mountain, but the mountain ended up with a buzzcut instead. Some like the faux foliage that has been added, but to me, it reminds me of the pipes and wacky colors (including the inexplicable black stripe) added to a luxurious Hollywood Hotel over in DCA. In other words, it's pasted on top of something else. Don Carson, an Imagineer on the MK version of Splash Mountain, told me that the attraction has good bones and could physically support the retheme; so they painted the rocks a different color, pasted fake grass and flowers on top of what was already there, lit everything up purple, and called it a day.

Animatronics - When the first video of the animatronics dropped, so did my jaw. I LOVE animatronics, so to see so many high-quality animatronics being added into a retheme that required scrapping so many animatronics, my hopes were high (yes, even my own disgruntled nature was set aside for a time). But then I saw them in context. Waving around, talking to us, surrounded by limited-motion figures that artificially inflate the AA number...and then failing to actually function consistently. Also, why is Louis the Alligator's skin made of such obvious fabric? He looks furry, and sometimes the way it folds up when he bends makes him look more like a teddy bear than an alligator.

Reliability - What did they do to this ride? I know Splash Mountain was not the pinnacle of attraction reliability, but my gosh, TBA makes it seem like it was. When was the last time a new attraction had this much downtime during its first year of operation? Test Track 1.0? What went wrong? I want to read the tell-all book about this in 40 years, because it's mind-boggling to me.

Anyway, this was a bit long, but I just want to restate what I said at the start: WDI has serious issues if this is the best they can do, and I'm very concerned about the quality of the quantity we are getting in the coming years. Could be a very dark time...dare I say, a disgruntling time...
 
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