doctornick
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Very honestly, I don’t expect I’ll ever buy ILL but if Disney did this I’d absolutely spend the money to do it. Obviously they wouldn’t but it would be great to have that option.
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News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress
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ChrisFL
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It looks like the biggest issue is the lack of details that Splash Mountain had everywhere.
The story is another thing but I also know there's a lot of armchair imagineers who talk about how "many of the original favorites didn't have an overall story but just a theme" when it comes to Haunted Mansion and Pirates, etc..
Splash had a complete story, even if a lot of people probably didn't understand what it all meant.
The story is another thing but I also know there's a lot of armchair imagineers who talk about how "many of the original favorites didn't have an overall story but just a theme" when it comes to Haunted Mansion and Pirates, etc..
Splash had a complete story, even if a lot of people probably didn't understand what it all meant.
I still think the problem is that they replaced a ride that appealed to the entire family with one that has a story and dialogue geared towards preschool girls…and this on a ‘thrill’ ride with a height requirement.
Although some posters don’t seem to understand, Disney is not just for kids. That’s not the way to create lifelong fans who then want to take their kids and grandkids. They seem to be catering to the crowd that visits Disney because they have children and then can check it off the list (one and done).
MagicHappens1971
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Disney has proven that infusing IP (whether you like it or not) drives revenue. If you are so concerned as a shareholder you should be happy to know this attraction will be printing money in merch sales.
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Figgy1
Premium Member
Maybe just me but I don't see that merch flying off shelves
How much did this project cost? I think we know the answer. Money well spent? I would argue no.
Using your logic we should close every attraction (and there are a lot of them), popular or not, to add “modern IP that people are actually interested in”.
Actually, your post to me summarizes the very thing wrong with current Disney management.
MagicHappens1971
Well-Known Member
150M-200M? Disney blew that like 8 times last year on box office flops. This attraction was due for a heavy refurb anyway, and as GMR-MMRR and Malestrom-FEA showed us, if Disney is spending the money to redo an attraction, it's going to be IP based. Do I love TBA? I'm holding out full judgement until I ride it, but I'm overall happy with it.
Are you arguing that $150-$200 million dollars is not a lot of money? Money that could have gone to additions? It’s one thing to spend money like that redoing rides that are not popular. Splash Mountain was not in that category.
Well at least you admit all the box office flops.
MagicHappens1971
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I'm not a staunch Disney supporter. But there are some basic facts here. Very few people outside of what sometimes seems like an echo chamber (this forum) cares/knows about SotS. A lot of people know/care about Tiana and she enforces the Disney Princess branding. The different outfits she wears, and the cute little critters will sell far more merch than Splash ever did.
Very few people may have known or cared much about SOTS…yet the ride was still popular. Seems to prove my point.
MagicHappens1971
Well-Known Member
I feel like I've gone in circles about this, but haven't we confirmed that there were credible rumors that Disney started planning to replace Splash with Tiana in 2019? Way before the events that people claim caused Disney to pull the trigger on this retheme.
UNCgolf
Well-Known Member
I think Louis is in there behind the plants.
yensidtlaw1969
Well-Known Member
It's a little hard to see in the light, but Louis is back there with his head under a wheelbarrow looking for critters.
Presumably his movements are meant to shake the okra, though truthfully I'm not sure the Louis figure actually has any movement of its own . . . it's odd.
MagicHappens1971
Well-Known Member
I'm confused. What was your point? Yes. The ride was popular. It is ~10 minute flume attraction in a theme park that averages feels like temperatures of 95+ in the summer. Of course it was popular.
dreamfinding
Well-Known Member
His figure is incredibly hard to see at night.
My point was that it was not money well spent.
And I think the ride just *might* have been popular for other reasons, too…
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
Man, so much Louis, the blandest part of the film. In a charming, original movie, the one bit that felt like he was a stock character designed by committee to move merch... so it makes sense he has a starring role here.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Just remember... someone saw a storyboard of this ride.. or something even worse... and said YES! That's what we should build!
This is such a horrible showing.. it just solidifies the belief that Splash was marked for execution and they said replace it by X before really even knowing what they were going to get or having any power to say no.
Or... someone looked at Navi River.. and said "see, as long as you put in a fancy AA.. the fact the rest of the ride seems pointless doesn't matter!'.. and this team said "hold my beer"
Dead spots... whatever, Splash had them too. They were always going to struggle to fill out the entire Splash path.. but like the Malestrom redo.. it seems they didn't even want to try with low tech scenes to try to fill those spaces and just went with 'lighting'. For all the hate on Frozen replacing Malestrom (which really wasn't a good ride)... this job makes you feel like they only learned to spend more and not focus on the need to have a good plot or catchy song/purpose people can get into.
WTH was all this talk about food, her own venue, etc... the whole thing doesn't seem to build off the success of the movie plot AT ALL.. and the whole DCA Bountiful Farms scenes in the beginning seem completely pointless, or even a distraction.
Unless you adore Tiana like a swifty what memorable character performances do you get from this ride? You like a fat alligator... or a stereotyped Mama character.. ? The general public doesn't get swooned by how high tech your AAs are.. they want to fall in love with a character+performance. This ride feels like they wanted to prove people wrong by saying "we'll use a ton of the greatest AAs and we'll show them!!!' - but fired all their creative writers to pay for the AAs or something.
Really odd set designs too... like the entrance to the second lift hill... the sign just forces you to recognize all the lack of symetry in the set due to the safety features on the wall.. for a completely pointless sign. It's written up like an invitation... but who puts invitations on horizontal banners like that? The notions just clash outright... for a scene that seems to detract more than anything.
For this story, Splash's total ride time is really an albatross they clearly never had a good answer for... to see this plot as the best Disney could do before replacing an icon is tragic.
If they wanted a 'getting the band together...' story... They should have studied the Blues Brothers!
This is such a horrible showing.. it just solidifies the belief that Splash was marked for execution and they said replace it by X before really even knowing what they were going to get or having any power to say no.
Or... someone looked at Navi River.. and said "see, as long as you put in a fancy AA.. the fact the rest of the ride seems pointless doesn't matter!'.. and this team said "hold my beer"
Dead spots... whatever, Splash had them too. They were always going to struggle to fill out the entire Splash path.. but like the Malestrom redo.. it seems they didn't even want to try with low tech scenes to try to fill those spaces and just went with 'lighting'. For all the hate on Frozen replacing Malestrom (which really wasn't a good ride)... this job makes you feel like they only learned to spend more and not focus on the need to have a good plot or catchy song/purpose people can get into.
WTH was all this talk about food, her own venue, etc... the whole thing doesn't seem to build off the success of the movie plot AT ALL.. and the whole DCA Bountiful Farms scenes in the beginning seem completely pointless, or even a distraction.
Unless you adore Tiana like a swifty what memorable character performances do you get from this ride? You like a fat alligator... or a stereotyped Mama character.. ? The general public doesn't get swooned by how high tech your AAs are.. they want to fall in love with a character+performance. This ride feels like they wanted to prove people wrong by saying "we'll use a ton of the greatest AAs and we'll show them!!!' - but fired all their creative writers to pay for the AAs or something.
Really odd set designs too... like the entrance to the second lift hill... the sign just forces you to recognize all the lack of symetry in the set due to the safety features on the wall.. for a completely pointless sign. It's written up like an invitation... but who puts invitations on horizontal banners like that? The notions just clash outright... for a scene that seems to detract more than anything.
For this story, Splash's total ride time is really an albatross they clearly never had a good answer for... to see this plot as the best Disney could do before replacing an icon is tragic.
If they wanted a 'getting the band together...' story... They should have studied the Blues Brothers!
MagicHappens1971
Well-Known Member
I don't love the way the story turned out, but obviously it was put in front of a WDI exec, and probably at least Josh D'Amaro, and clearly they said yes, since at least 150M has been spent and the attraction opens in 25 days.