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MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

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Vclguy90

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The negativity is really starting to grow on social and every single YouTube ride thru posted.

Disney is getting taken to the woodshed by its fan base and they deserve it.

I’m hoping this blowback will be a wake up call, but at this point who am I kidding.

They don’t want the hardcore fans to stick around. Some bean counter must have figured out that we don’t spend as much per minute or something.

This ride is a giant middle finger to the Disney Park fans.
Is it safe to say that they are going by the model of quality is not profitable? Obviously they've given up on the fans so is their plan not to make anymore? Or create a new fanbase that expects less of them because them at their great is too expensive? I'm really perplexed how every executive at Disney still has a job. I'm even more perplexed how people like Eisner and Lucas are backing them up? It almost feels like a conspiracy or some glitch in the matrix.
 

Ice Gator

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They told us backstory and backstory that I thought-silly me!- would have some bearing on the plot, or at the very least, the critter bios would play into the ride somewhat, through sight gags or something.
Yep. I was very thrown off by this. Especially with all the dead space in the ride.

Not a single sight gag with the exception of Louis's butt saying "how low can I go?" and JuJu "stealing food".
 

DisneyHead123

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So apparently I am the only person in the known universe who actually likes the looks of this ride.

I will say I’m not sure how well the big drop (which seems to say “thrill ride”) fits with the aesthetics. Ideally, this probably should have been a Fantasyland dark ride.

It’s a very, very pretty ride. It takes me back to pinning beautiful things on my wedding inspiration board years ago (right down to the pink, purple and blue uplighting). Or to favoriting beautiful things on Etsy. This seems like an ode to sparkly, beautiful, princessy prettiness.

Based on the reactions, presumably this is not where people wanted the ride equivalent of crystal tree centerpieces. Parents with small children probably wanted that more in a traditional dark ride, that princess obsessed little girls can ride without the scary drop that is for older kids. Adult park goers wanted a more gripping story with more grit, drama, and adventure.

It’s a shame, because this really is just a gorgeous ride. Looks like they put all that sparkle in the wrong venue based on reactions though.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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I’ve rekindled my participation in Disney forums recently after several years.

This is NOT a hyper positive Disney forum. This place is full of Disney downers. At least it’s entertaining though.

I go to a different forum if I want positivity.
Not sure they’re saying this is?
 

Vclguy90

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So apparently I am the only person in the known universe who actually likes the looks of this ride.

I will say I’m not sure how well the big drop (which seems to say “thrill ride”) fits with the aesthetics. Ideally, this probably should have been a Fantasyland dark ride.

It’s a very, very pretty ride. It takes me back to pinning beautiful things on my wedding inspiration board years ago (right down to the pink, purple and blue uplighting). Or to favoriting beautiful things on Etsy. This seems like an ode to sparkly, beautiful, princessy prettiness.

Based on the reactions, presumably this is not where people wanted the ride equivalent of crystal tree centerpieces. Parents with small children probably wanted that more in a traditional dark ride, that princess obsessed little girls can ride without the scary drop that is for older kids. Adult park goers wanted a more gripping story with more grit, drama, and adventure.

It’s a shame, because this really is just a gorgeous ride. Looks like they put all that sparkle in the wrong venue based on reactions though.
I feel this ride is a ride-thru metaphor of the crisis Disney is in. An identity crisis. They have no idea who or what they are anymore and everything about this ride screams that. Duh, Tony Baxter left. It's hard to have a long-lasting relationship with someone with such a prominent and confident identity just to see them crumble over their own embarrassing way to stay relevant.

It's a tough pill to swallow but who are these people anymore?
 

brb1006

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Isn't Ray supposed to be dead? Why do we hear him singing a few times in the ride?
Ray.jpg
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Management absolutely sucks. But modern Imagineering also absolutely sucks ... and it had plenty of money and resources to complete this attraction. I know where I'm placing the blame.
WDI absolutely has to be questioned at this point?

What are they actually building that is good? The track record is now looking very bad. Everything is too much…and the results are too short or have awful stories and/or re-ride factors.

That’s if they work…which is a huge if.

The only recent wdw addition that is anywhere close to on par with its hype is guardians…which I know is not for everyone. But it’s a fun coaster…it’s space mountain or rnrcoaster 2.0…:where Isaac Newton is enough.

When it’s slow…mainly these mindless trackless efforts…they’re underwhelming.

I know a lot of this is the management…because the nut at the top should long be gone now…but WDI has to make lemonade out of lemon ideas too
 

Ice Gator

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Sharing these art pieces I worked on, just for fun

I warned you guys, OLC will NOT budge on changing their Splash Mountain. Hope to make it out there soon


This is what I meant earlier when I said the poster for the ride should have been more detailed and hand drawn like a lot of the other attraction posters. They have so much material to work with, and the Splash poster had so much going on in it. I'd love to see a version with Tiana and Louis going down the waterfall instead of 2-D outlines of the characters in the same color scheme.
 

DisneyHead123

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I feel this ride is a ride-thru metaphor of the crisis Disney is in. An identity crisis. They have no idea who or what they are anymore and everything about this ride screams that. Duh, Tony Baxter left. It's hard to have a long-lasting relationship with someone with such a prominent and confident identity just to see them crumble over their own embarrassing way to stay relevant.

It's a tough pill to swallow but who are these people anymore?
I guess I see it more as a matter of style vs. substance in the social media age.

I would give them an A+ for style on this ride, although I totally get that it’s a style that doesn’t resonate with everyone. And I think style overall is an area where Disney has done pretty well recently, with Instagram-able food offerings and such. It’s the substance that seems to be the issue - that doesn’t seem to be resonating with people. On this particular ride and also in areas like recent movie offerings, as their box office has been suffering.
 

Vclguy90

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I guess I see it more as a matter of style vs. substance in the social media age.

I would give them an A+ for style on this ride, although I totally get that it’s a style that doesn’t resonate with everyone. And I think style overall is an area where Disney has done pretty well recently, with Instagram-able food offerings and such. It’s the substance that seems to be the issue - that doesn’t seem to be resonating with people. On this particular ride and also in areas like recent movie offerings, as their box office has been suffering.
It's super sad.
 

photomatt

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Maybe the PR team feels the same way and want higher ups to hear it too...
Comments are enabled so a third party marketing team can summarize the responses and present them to management. That's why the video was posted.

At least one higher-up realizes how much the ride sucks and is trying to do whatever he/she can to try to fix it.

Disney also has people who monitor the forums and present reports to management. Individual posts might not be reported, but the general sentiment is. That's a fact.
 

ProjectXBlog

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I will never understand the decision by Disney to try to quell uncertainty and negativity by releasing a POV from a high-quality camera that’s fixed to the log in one position. Just give someone a phone!

As far as the ride, I like the lighting and I love the animatronics. I just don’t know about everything else. There is a big difference between watching a ridethrough at home and actually being on the damn thing, where sensory overload can make the experience feel more “full,” but the video really doesn’t give much hope. From what I could see, there was an attempt to replace “business” with “atmosphere,” which is simply misguided for a ride like this. You need to be constantly distracted on a ride like this; giving the audience time to think and ponder works on a simple dark ride, but not an E-ticket thriller like this flume. So much space in these vast warehouse rooms are taken up by a simple aesthetic and not actual character work — and there’s so much opportunity for it!

That’s the biggest loss to me: replacing a show that has lots of fun bits and business featuring critters with another show about critters that have zero “business” outside of plot-dictated musicality, and therefore barely any personality to run with. Speaking of plot, that element really fell flat for me. I’m a big fan of the story element of these shows — not like a Joseph Campbell “Hero’s Journey” snob, but I do see it as a crucial element — and it seems like this show has 3 different stories trying to compete with each other. Jonathan Gold (food reviewer for the LA Times) said that the number one question he asked himself when reviewing a meal was “why?” Why this plate? Why these ingredients? Literally every element of a meal had a “why” element, and only the best chefs could give a fair response to every “why.” There is a lot of “why” here and I struggle to guess what the responses could be from our chefs.

It’s all truly bizarre for a company with this creative pedigree. It’s wrong to put all of this on the names of one or two Imagineers; it’s not like any one or two people can possibly have that much pull in an organization like this. However, there is a troublesome trend here with WDI to make shows like this too broad; there’s a sense that this was designed with the intent to make it easily digestible for all countries and cultures (you never know when Tokyo will give up the ghost), thus stripping it of any identity at all. This isn’t limited to just WDI, but all of Disney nowadays, and that’s just the way things go. It’ll be very funny when TBA gets shuttered in 30 years and an entire generation will lament the loss of their childhoods.

I still plan on riding to make a final judgement, but as someone who was all-in on this, I feel like Disney hand-delivered a reality check.
 
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