News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

[neo999955]

Out of curiosity, what was the reason they didn't want to follow the film for the Splash redo? It seems like that just creates a ton more work and increases the chances of it not winning over the general public who'll be expecting a ride of the film. I love the film, music, and characters, but this is a head scratcher to me. They had the makings for a slam dunk. Not saying the new attraction won't be, but the homework was already done.

I would imagine it's because of all the backlash they received for making an African American Disney princess and regulating her to a frog for a major portion of the film. I think a ride where she is again presented in frog form is not the right call. That said, I am not on board for dropping the villain - that is a pity.

 

[Bocabear]

To follow the film, the storyline of the ride could be placed after she has turned back into a human and has her dream restaurant... without taking it those 3000 extra steps to starting a food co-op... People will generally want to see the Tiana they know from the movie, not a hardened business executive...lol

 

[TDLFan]

They could have had her in Human form narrating the different scenes and story, that may have worked well actually! Best of both worlds!

 

[Bocabear]

And the villain and Mama Odie MUST be part of the ride... What is a fairy tale without a villain?

 

[drizgirl]

1955 called, they want their stereotype back.

I truly feel sorry for anyone today that believes a woman's place is in the kitchen. There is maybe a small, small fraction of people that feel that way today maybe, but for the vast majority of people that thinking is long gone.

You're wrong.

 

[Disstevefan1]

You're wrong.

Yes ma'am. Sorry ma'am.

 

[EagleScout610]

THEY BETTER NOT CLOSE SPLASH BEFORE THE 11th in Cali or MY WHOLE TRIP will be POINTLESS

Splash should be open on the 11th. The calendar goes up to May 15th at the moment and Splash is still listed on that date

 

[Brer Oswald]

I think the idea is to open them at the same time.

Never underestimate WDW's ability to sit on an attraction ready to open but not open it yet for reasons.

They sat in rat for what…over a year?

 

[Stupido]

I get it. Really I do. But it doesn't help the stereotype of women doing all the cooking.

I mean, in the movie Tiana starts teaching Naveen how to cook in the bayou. By the end of the movie, Naveen is showing off his knife skills before he jumps on stage with Louis. I would imagine they would continue this idea and have them cooking together.

 

[EagleScout610]

 

[Magenta Panther]

And the villain and Mama Odie MUST be part of the ride... What is a fairy tale without a villain?

Out of curiosity, what was the reason they didn't want to follow the film for the Splash redo? It seems like that just creates a ton more work and increases the chances of it not winning over the general public who'll be expecting a ride of the film. I love the film, music, and characters, but this is a head scratcher to me. They had the makings for a slam dunk. Not saying the new attraction won't be, but the homework was already done.

I'm betting the ride's narrative will be even more confusing than MMRR's, and the tacky Guardians replacement in Disneyland's former Tower of Terror.

The reason Disney is going with such a dippy storyline is to preach at the public, rather than entertain them.

 

[Brer Panther]

I would imagine it's because of all the backlash they received for making an African American Disney princess and regulating her to a frog for a major portion of the film.

Yeah, that's probably it. Plus, Disney doesn't really do "book report" rides nowadays... Frozen Ever After was a sequel, and Remy's Ratatouille Adventure was... I'm not even sure what that ride's relation to the movie's continuity is.

Come to think of it, Toy Story Land plays kind of loose with continuity, doesn't it? It's supposed to take place in Andy's backyard, but Bonnie's toys are there... why are they so worried about continuity NOW?

And the villain and Mama Odie MUST be part of the ride...

Mama Odie will be there. They're going to turn the lift hill into her house.

 

[FettFan]

I get it. Really I do. But it doesn't help the stereotype of women doing all the cooking.

lul wut?

You don’t remember the guy Tiana was working for?

Or how about the other myriad of male Disney chefs?

If anything, Tiana is still the odd woman out.

 

[TomboyJanet]

1955 called, they want their stereotype back.

I truly feel sorry for anyone today that believes a woman's place is in the kitchen. There is maybe a small, small fraction of people that feel that way today maybe, but for the vast majority of people that thinking is long gone.

So many older guys make jokes when I do things at work they say things like "can she cook too?" Also they will ignore me and talk to the men about how to work anything or find anything. This could just be at home depot with their clientele but that's the world I'm inundated with daily.

 

[Disstevefan1]

So many older guys make jokes when I do things at work they say things like "can she cook too?" Also they will ignore me and talk to the men about how to work anything or find anything. This could just be at home depot with their clientele but that's the world I'm inundated with daily.

Sorry to hear that. My work place is totally respectful and inclusive and they even put up with an old fart like me.

When you find your right vocation you will look back on this job and remember how bad it was like I remember some of my previous jobs.

 

[Incomudro]

So many older guys make jokes when I do things at work they say things like "can she cook too?" Also they will ignore me and talk to the men about how to work anything or find anything. This could just be at home depot with their clientele but that's the world I'm inundated with daily.

But "can she cook too" is a joke, and a joke made by older guys. They're likely not serious.
Even most older guys (I'm 59) realize that woman haven't done the cooking any more than men since the 1970's.
We were in our teens and twenties in the 80's when most of that gender role specificity went by the wayside.
I do 99.99999% of the cooking, and ALL of the food shopping for that matter - in my house.
Add that to the yard work.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

But "can she cook too" is a joke, and a joke made by older guys. They're likely not serious.
Even most older guys (I'm 59) realize that woman haven't done the cooking any more than men since the 1970's.
We were in our teens and twenties in the 80's when most of that gender role specificity went by the wayside.
I do 99.99999% of the cooking, and ALL of the food shopping for that matter - in my house.
Add that to the yard work.

It depends on where you live and what type of environment you grow up in. I can tell you that in a lot of southern and/or rural areas of the US, old school household gender roles are still frequently adhered to. That's the case for much of my family for instance, most of the women still do the bulk of the cooking. My family is also sort of split as to how they treat women as well. There is a significant chunk of my family who still hold the sexist "women belong in the kitchen and are inferior to men" mindset (and it's not going away anytime soon as even the kids are being taught this), that's on my maternal grandmother's side. My maternal grandfather's side is immensely more egalitarian and doesn't generally demand adherence to gender roles, but even there, the women STILL usually gravitate towards cooking.

Restaurants are different however. Even going way back in time, it was common for men to be the cooks. In fact, some restaurants even frowned upon women being involved in cooking (especially the upscale ones requiring a lot of expensive higher education, Ratatouille referenced this in its plot with Colette). If you look at lists of the best and most famous chefs in the world, men vastly outnumber women.

 

[Incomudro]

It depends on where you live and what type of environment you grow up in. I can tell you that in a lot of southern and/or rural areas of the US, old school household gender roles are still frequently adhered to. That's the case for much of my family for instance, most of the women still do the bulk of the cooking. My family is also sort of split as to how they treat women as well. There is a significant chunk of my family who still hold the sexist "women belong in the kitchen and are inferior to men" mindset (and it's not going away anytime soon as even the kids are being taught this), that's on my maternal grandmother's side. My maternal grandfather's side is immensely more egalitarian and doesn't generally demand adherence to gender roles, but even there, the women STILL usually gravitate towards cooking.

Restaurants are different however. Even going way back in time, it was common for men to be the cooks. In fact, some restaurants even frowned upon women being involved in cooking (especially the upscale ones requiring a lot of expensive higher education, Ratatouille referenced this in its plot with Colette). If you look at lists of the best and most famous chefs in the world, men vastly outnumber women.

I grew up on Staten Island in a largely Italian American area.
Most of the "woman does the cooking stuff" was going away by the 80's.
Arguably men like myself took on more tasks, while the woman did less.
All of the "man work" yard work, heavy lifting etc., still belongs to the men.
Along with the diaper changes, cooking, cleaning etc.

 

[TomboyJanet]

It depends on where you live and what type of environment you grow up in. I can tell you that in a lot of southern and/or rural areas of the US, old school household gender roles are still frequently adhered to. That's the case for much of my family for instance, most of the women still do the bulk of the cooking. My family is also sort of split as to how they treat women as well. There is a significant chunk of my family who still hold the sexist "women belong in the kitchen and are inferior to men" mindset (and it's not going away anytime soon as even the kids are being taught this), that's on my maternal grandmother's side. My maternal grandfather's side is immensely more egalitarian and doesn't generally demand adherence to gender roles, but even there, the women STILL usually gravitate towards cooking.

Restaurants are different however. Even going way back in time, it was common for men to be the cooks. In fact, some restaurants even frowned upon women being involved in cooking (especially the upscale ones requiring a lot of expensive higher education, Ratatouille referenced this in its plot with Colette). If you look at lists of the best and most famous chefs in the world, men vastly outnumber women.

That's true but I thought the thing about Colette was she was still kinda not good at cooking. Or at least she was trying too hard to adhere to the strict by the book way of doing things.

I like her anyway.

I grew up on Staten Island in a largely Italian American area.
Most of the "woman does the cooking stuff" was going away by the 80's.
Arguably men like myself took on more tasks, while the woman did less.
All of the "man work" yard work, heavy lifting etc., still belongs to the men.
Along with the diaper changes, cooking, cleaning etc.

In my area which is the suburbs its kinda the last suburb before the sticks so its half and half. It went for Bush and then It went for Obama in elections.

 

[celluloid]

And at the end of the day, if it works for that person, if it works for that couple, and they are not bound to it, if it works for that family unit, than accusing a family or person of a stereotype is pointless.