News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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Disstevefan1 said:
Seriously, this is an opportunity for some sort of partnership/sponsorship thing for Disney. Lets hope they are smart.
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Given how they’ve been spotlighting local artists from/near New Orleans, and highlighting African American contributions to local culture, I could see them partnering with a smaller, African American owned hot sauce / food distributor for a co-branding opportunity.
 
Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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EPCOT-O.G. said:
Given how they’ve been spotlighting local artists from/near New Orleans, and highlighting African American contributions to local culture, I could see them partnering with a smaller, African American owned hot sauce / food distributor for a co-branding opportunity.
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That is, if they’re motivated by such a thing. The big money sponsorship comes by signing on with one of the larger enterprises.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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Louisiana Brand Hot Sauce is a company started in 1928...don't think it is employee owned, but a company that started modestly in the correct time period.... I would think a company like that would be willing to private label Tiana's Foods tm Hot Sauce...then they could tout it as real Louisiana hot sauce....though who knows where the actual ingredients come from...There is a company called Louisiana Pepper company but when you look closer all their peppers come from south and central America... not Louisiana.....
 
SilentWindODoom

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MisterPenguin said:
Because it's unknown whether there is intentional forced perspective to make it looker taller or shorter than it is.

But some say there definitely is forced perspective (one way or the other), and surprisingly, find fault with it without knowing for sure either way.

Has anyone measured the size of the flowers to see if they get bigger as one goes up the hill? ;)
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I find no fault with it, so I don't know if I got roped in here. The effectiveness of it is what made me feel it had to have been intentional. I'd never once thought about the original as partaking in forced perspective, but posts in this thread have caused me to take a second look and notice how the tiered shapes and the change in size of rocks towards the top seemed to effectively make it look quite tall.

Incomudro said:
Reversed forced perpective?
How about real sized trees because riders and guests are actually in and around those trees, so they need to be actual size?
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Well, I mean, whether to make something look larger (Main Street one way, the background buildings in the World Showcase) or smaller (Main Street the other way, the American Adventure), it's still forced perspective and this is something they've employed using the same tools.

The American Adventure has the gigantic hedges right up against the building. Here they've got the trees so close. And if there's one thing Imagineering can get away with, it's less-than-full-scale trees. They seem so gigantic to me from the ground view because they're actually of a correct scale. I'm so used to smaller plantings and fake trees. Smaller trees with limbs climbing overhead the seated passengers would be plenty convincing.

BagOfGroceries said:
Well, thing is, Most Hot Sauce Companies are still privately or family owned. McIlhenny Company, makers of Tabasco, is still owned by the Mcllhenny family and bottled on Avery Island, just like it’s been since 1868. And all the salt in the sauces did used to come from the Island’s salt dome, too. Crystal is still owned by Baumer Foods and Headquartered in New Orleans. The only big exception for nationwide brands is Cholula, which is owned by McCormick. It’s really interesting, tbh.
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My favorite is also privately owned, but I don't think it's the culture they're trying to evoke.

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Given that the whole salt dome thing ties into Tabasco, it would make sense. I remember getting a little Tabasco bottle along with my clam chowder during Food & Wine. Do they have an official hot sauce in the parks? All I've found on it is them using some simulacrum of Sriracha with egg rolls 15 years ago.

I thought there was something I'd seen somewhere in the images or such that made me associate the ride with the brand. Not from a historical point of view, but something visual. But I can't remember.
 
Incomudro

Incomudro

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SilentWindODoom said:
Well, I mean, whether to make something look larger (Main Street one way, the background buildings in the World Showcase) or smaller (Main Street the other way, the American Adventure), it's still forced perspective and this is something they've employed using the same tools.

The American Adventure has the gigantic hedges right up against the building. Here they've got the trees so close. And if there's one thing Imagineering can get away with, it's less-than-full-scale trees. They seem so gigantic to me from the ground view because they're actually of a correct scale. I'm so used to smaller plantings and fake trees. Smaller trees with limbs climbing overhead the seated passengers would be plenty convincing.
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We have zero evidence they are employing a reverse forced perspective in order to make the drop look smaller.
 
Brer Oswald

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TheCoasterNerd said:
Ok so if it isn't a new ride how do the scenes go? How's the plot progression? And don't give me "oh it'll be bad I bet" if it isn't new then you know the ride already - how is it? Is it fun? Better then splash? If it isn't new then what is it? It's new.

According to Google, new means "already existing but seen, experienced, or acquired recently or now for the first time,
not existing before; made, introduced, or discovered recently or now for the first time."
If this doesn't follow that definition nothing does.
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Scene 1 - Critter Band Welcomes you
Scene 2 Leaving home replacement - Louis Welcomes you
Scene 3 Turning Around replacement - Tiana welcomes you to "The party". Says they are looking for an ingredient
Scene 4 Rope Trap replacement - Naveen does something LE WACKY.
Scene 5 Pre dip drop - Tiana warns of the dark side of bayou, but says we have to go in to find the ingredient. "Be careful"
Scene 6 Bees replacement - Shadows mess with Louis
Scene 7 Caves replacement - Shadows mess with Tiana and Naveen in a boat
Scene 8 Pre Lift Hill - Mama Odie "saves you" warding off the spirits, and leading you to the "escape"
Scene 9 Drop - Mama Odie says something corny and stereotypical
Scene 10 Finale - You gather in front of Tiana restaurant. The true special ingredient was love, or friendship, or some other Kingdom Hearts level BS

The side critters are placed throughout to fill in space, but not to the extent of splash. Many are static birds and frogs, not unlike little mermaid.

The End. Call me in 3 months.
 
Disstevefan1

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TheCoasterNerd said:
Ok so if it isn't a new ride how do the scenes go? How's the plot progression? And don't give me "oh it'll be bad I bet" if it isn't new then you know the ride already - how is it? Is it fun? Better then splash? If it isn't new then what is it? It's new.

According to Google, new means "already existing but seen, experienced, or acquired recently or now for the first time,
not existing before; made, introduced, or discovered recently or now for the first time."
If this doesn't follow that definition nothing does.
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Ok, OK its a "new" ride.

Since this "new" ride will use the same ride system, layout, vehicles as the "old" ride, its still a fun log flume ride no matter the theme

I will continue to like this "new" ride the same as I liked the "old" ride because it uses the exact same ride system.

I NEVER said the "new" ride will be bad.
I said I will like it the same because its still exactly the same fun log flume ride.

I do not understand why folks will not like the "new" ride.

It is the exact same ride that was reskinned to make a "new" ride.
 
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SilentWindODoom

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Incomudro said:
We have zero evidence they are employing a reverse forced perspective in order to make the drop look smaller.
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You're right. That's why I've been repeatedly saying that they're not making an active effort to lessen the look of that thrill. I've never talked about the flume itself. That's fast and screamy and intense and everyone knows it.

I'm talking about the mountain around it.
 
Bocabear

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Disstevefan1 said:
Ok, OK its a "new" ride.

Since this "new" ride will use the same ride system, layout, vehicles as the "old" ride, its still a fun log flume ride no matter the theme

I will continue to like this "new" ride the same as I liked the "old" ride because it uses the exact same ride system.

I NEVER said the "new" ride will be bad.
I said I will like it the same because its still exactly the same fun log flume ride.

I do not understand why folks will not like the "new" ride.

It is the exact same ride that was reskinned to make a "new" ride.
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While I hated losing the original music and characters, I have always thought the same...it will still be fun, but I have 35 years of happy memories on that ride... I loved the music, the colors, the story... I am not sure anything about the re-skin will live up to what preceded it... But I am sure it will be a fun flume ride just as it always was.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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JohnD said:
Disney uses forced perspective everywhere, including Cindy Castle. If they're using it, so what? It's part of their usual bag of tricks.
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Because in order to criticize the retheme, a case is made that the drop now looks shorter giving children a false sense of how scary-thrilling it will be, or, it makes the drop now look taller, scaring off children who might enjoy it.

Neither side has actually presented any evidence that there is an intention to use forced perspective. Are the flowers getting smaller or larger as you look up the hill? We don't know. Neither do those claiming that in this new reconstruction that there is actual forced perspective being used.

But it does serve has a whipping rod, as ephemeral as it may be.
 

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