News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

zipadee999

zipadee999

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MerlinTheGoat said:
Splash Mountain had a ton of legitimate AA's filling out its scenes, not just limited motion ones. Especially the finale, which was packed full of ones of this caliber-

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These aren't A1000's or even A100's of course, but they still move with great range and fluidity of their own. And there is again a LOT of them. When all of them were present and fully functional, WDW's finale had 17 of these figures and DL had 26.

It would be a substantial downgrade if Tiana replaced these with only a single digit amount of real AA's and filled the extra space with spinning/wobbling props ala Little Mermaid. Regardless of how advanced the new ones are and how many of the extra props there are. Again, not everything has to be as advanced as that Tiana figure, but there does need to be some level of quality consistently in the other figures. Just figures on the same level of those old Splash ones would be perfectly acceptable though and would still blend in well with the newer ones.

Unless those Splash figures were what you meant by "limited motion" figures. What I consider limited motion are all of the spinning/wobbling sea creature props in the Little Mermaid ride (outside of the main character animatronics), which I would again not want a repeat of. At least not as a substitute for what were originally much more elaborate figures in Splash.

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Yeah ok, I think I misspoke. I was referring to the splash figures like the ones in the finale! What I meant was that those simpler AAs that fill a scene leave a much bigger impression than just one or two A-1000s. I hope we don’t get figures like the ones from mermaid lol
 
SilentWindODoom

SilentWindODoom

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MerlinTheGoat said:
It would be a substantial downgrade if Tiana replaced these with only a single digit amount of real AA's and filled the extra space with spinning/wobbling props ala Little Mermaid. Regardless of how advanced the new ones are and how many of the extra props there are. Again, not everything has to be as advanced as that Tiana figure, but there does need to be some level of quality consistently in the other figures. Just figures on the same level of those old Splash ones would be perfectly acceptable though and would still blend in well with the newer ones.

Unless those Splash figures were what you meant by "limited motion" figures. What I consider limited motion are all of the spinning/wobbling sea creature props in the Little Mermaid ride (outside of the main character animatronics), which I would again not want a repeat of. At least not as a substitute for what were originally much more elaborate figures in Splash.
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Perhaps it's a matter of not having in-depth knowledge of AA terms and technology combined with the fact that there's been a lot of talk about how much limited motion figures can be done well to pass off as more complex machinery that confused me. Or perhaps it's the fact that the Jungle Cruise opened before the Tiki Room so I've thought about every JC animal as a limited motion figure ,although thinking about it now, I feel like there are likely more complex figured that were added post-1955 that I'm lumping in there in my mind.

Nevertheless, I was indeed lumping a lot of the simply swaying figures in the finale, pretty much everyone on the boat as limited motion.
 
MerlinTheGoat

MerlinTheGoat

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zipadee999 said:
Yeah ok, I think I misspoke. I was referring to the splash figures like the ones in the finale! What I meant was that those simpler AAs that fill a scene leave a much bigger impression than just one or two A-1000s. I hope we don’t get figures like the ones from mermaid lol
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No worries, I sort of suspected that's what you meant. Splash did have a number of genuine limited motion figures of its own too. Like the hanging possums, spinning beehives, turtles riding fountains etc. Even the wobbling Brer Bear figure as discussed a few weeks back was quite simple in its design (using springs activated by movement to simulate arm flailing). So it's not that basic moving props can't work in some instances. But Splash did have a substantial quantity of legitimate AA's as well. The finale as mentioned being full of them.

SilentWindODoom said:
Perhaps it's a matter of not having in-depth knowledge of AA terms and technology combined with the fact that there's been a lot of talk about how much limited motion figures can be done well to pass off as more complex machinery that confused me. Or perhaps it's the fact that the Jungle Cruise opened before the Tiki Room so I've thought about every JC animal as a limited motion figure ,although thinking about it now, I feel like there are likely more complex figured that were added post-1955 that I'm lumping in there in my mind.

Nevertheless, I was indeed lumping a lot of the simply swaying figures in the finale, pretty much everyone on the boat as limited motion.
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Jungle Cruise I think uses a mixture of props ranging from static to simple. But many of the moving figures are still much more complex and animated than most of Little Mermaid's props.

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Regardless, all of the animatronics used in Splash Mountain's finale are FAR more advanced than these. As you can probably see by comparing to the gifs I posted above.
 
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Sectorkeeper71

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MerlinTheGoat said:
Splash Mountain had a ton of legitimate AA's filling out its scenes, not just limited motion ones. Especially the finale, which was packed full of ones of this caliber-

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These aren't A1000's or even A100's of course, but they still move with great range and fluidity of their own. And there is again a LOT of them. When all of them were present and fully functional, WDW's finale had 17 of these figures and DL had 26.

It would be a substantial downgrade if Tiana replaced these with only a single digit amount of real AA's and filled the extra space with spinning/wobbling props ala Little Mermaid. Regardless of how advanced the new ones are and how many of the extra props there are. Again, not everything has to be as advanced as that Tiana figure, but there does need to be some level of quality consistently in the other figures. Just figures on the same level of those old Splash ones would be perfectly acceptable though and would still blend in well with the newer ones.

Unless those Splash figures were what you meant by "limited motion" figures. What I consider limited motion are all of the spinning/wobbling sea creature props in the Little Mermaid ride (outside of the main character animatronics), which I would again not want a repeat of. At least not as a substitute for what were originally much more elaborate figures in Splash.

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I’ll be honest, those splash figures moved way more than I remembered. I think some of it has to do with the fact that some are further away and it’s easy to miss the brief time you’re in the scene.

That and you’re trying to reattach your soul back to your body after the drop 😂
 
MerlinTheGoat

MerlinTheGoat

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Sectorkeeper71 said:
I’ll be honest, those splash figures moved way more than I remembered. I think some of it has to do with the fact that some are further away and it’s easy to miss the brief time you’re in the scene.

That and you’re trying to reattach your soul back to your body after the drop 😂
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Their movement was also dependent on how motivated maintenance crews were at taking care of them. The WDW variant in particular was often extremely neglected, so it wasn't uncommon to see AA's operating at only a small fraction of their full range. Eyes might not blink, mouths might not open and close (or would do so sluggishly), arms and hands might no longer work properly etc. And that was the ones that weren't completely static or missing entirely.

The last point in time that Splash Mtn's figures at WDW operated at approximately their peak level of performance (as they did in the 90s) was in 2013 following a major refurbishment. And it largely maintained that condition for a few years after. Though eventually it declined once again in the years leading up to its final closure.

Tokyo's version of the ride is still maintained to exceptional standards. You can look to that version for further evidence of how capable even these relatively ancient figures were/are.
 
ChewbaccaYourMum

ChewbaccaYourMum

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EagleScout610 said:
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The rides down a year and a half and rhet couldn't patch up the spot they ripped Br'er Rabbit off?
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At the end of the article they zoomed in on the piece on the back of the logs and there's a red tag attached that says "rejected" probably due to these having bad paint jobs or other such things. I thought the same thing when I saw the photo though lol
 
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Sectorkeeper71

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MerlinTheGoat said:
Their movement was also dependent on how motivated maintenance crews were at taking care of them. The WDW variant in particular was often extremely neglected, so it wasn't uncommon to see AA's operating at only a small fraction of their full range. Eyes might not blink, mouths might not open and close (or would do so sluggishly), arms and hands might no longer work properly etc. And that was the ones that weren't completely static or missing entirely.

The last point in time that Splash Mtn's figures at WDW operated at approximately their peak level of performance (as they did in the 90s) was in 2013 following a major refurbishment. And it largely maintained that condition for a few years after. Though eventually it declined once again in the years leading up to its final closure.

Tokyo's version of the ride is still maintained to exceptional standards. You can look to that version for further evidence of how capable even these relatively ancient figures were/are.
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Ah, so I’m not especially unobservant….well not in THIS case maybe, they just haven’t worked 100% in a decade
 
MerlinTheGoat

MerlinTheGoat

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LittleBuford said:
What’s to stop them making modifications to the logs in these final stages?
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Nothing. And we're still nowhere near summer, so I wouldn't jump to conclusions yet. It's not just the patched space formerly occupied by the hood ornaments that needs attention. There's a ton of damage elsewhere on the logs too. They're in unacceptably rough shape and the ride should not be allowed to open with them in this condition-

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SilentWindODoom

SilentWindODoom

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Sectorkeeper71 said:
I’ll be honest, those splash figures moved way more than I remembered. I think some of it has to do with the fact that some are further away and it’s easy to miss the brief time you’re in the scene.

That and you’re trying to reattach your soul back to your body after the drop 😂
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This and maintenance issues are probably what it comes down to. Those lions and giraffe really feel like they have similar range of motions to the finale figures in the state I remember seeing them.

Then again, there's also the issue of memory. :hilarious:
 

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