News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

[bpiper]

Perhaps they want to make sure the logs are finished closer to opening and need to test now, so might as well throw them all out there than pluck them out for the work?

Weren't there pics at the start of construction of the boats being sent out on a flat bed for work? I think the logs ARE finished.

 

[JohnD]

There are many moments of the sky being declared falling on this project, including its very existence. Most of it is nothing. Absolutely nothing. People grasping at straws.

I'm firmly of the belief of "Wait and See" and not jumping to nonsensical conclusions. That being said, a big industrial railing in that location would be a detraction. Yes, if it's not covered, it would matter. It would be bad show. It's why I mentioned earlier hoping that any railings inside that codes require hopefully are hidden the way the art suggests this is. Looks like it's going to be a non-issue, but if the railing isn't covered it would indeed suck.

On the subject of the lights, I also thought they were there. I know lights shone on the drop. Now I'm curious as to where those lights actually were this whole time.

Of course I don't have proof, but as illustrated earlier in concept art, there is "foliage" in that location so I have every reason to believe that green fence will be hidden. That's what led me to the belief that fence was already there when the briar patch was in that location. So there was no fence then. If the intention was to build the fence for the lights, there is no possible reason to believe that the imagineers wouldn't hide it.

 

[JohnD]

What matters is further asserting an assumption despite being shown disproving evidence. Telling others "Believe what you want" when they're gently correcting you with proof certainly suggests you're being rubbed the wrong way.

But this new fence is far from a major concern. It's certainly not a "sky is falling" moment - which, for the record, I would extend to my entire well-documented opinion of Tiana's Bayou Adventure. This ride has many detractors, but I have not been one of them.

Just trying to be clear about the truth. The fence is new, which is interesting because it does look like it features equipment (Lighting? Sound?) that Splash did not include before.

Speaking of assertions, how do you know this fence is "new"? When you look at the photo below, all I see is a bunch of briars. For all we know, that fence was underneath. So don't sit there all smug saying I'm making assertions when you don't have a clue either. At least I can make a reasonable assumption it was underneath the briars the entire time and not declare it wasn't there at all when you have no way of knowing.

 

[TarzanForever]

With respect, the timing of TBA's opening has nothing to do with Epic Universe.

Why would opening it earlier in 2024 have an impact on booking and attendance for a new park opening a year later?

If that was the case, it would be opening around the same time in an attempt to syphon off a day of someone's universal trip.

Yes, they wanted to avoid this all together but they are related and a push for lack of betters words “competition”. It is for sure related and sped up to accommodate i think we can all agree on. Now the question is if there will be more to this which i can assure you there is

 

[SilentWindODoom]

Of course I don't have proof, but as illustrated earlier in concept art, there is "foliage" in that location so I have every reason to believe that green fence will be hidden. That's what led me to the belief that fence was already there when the briar patch was in that location. So there was no fence then. If the intention was to build the fence for the lights, there is no possible reason to believe that the imagineers wouldn't hide it.

I agree. All signs point to it being hidden. I was just referring to your words of... and I just realized that I misread "Does it really matter to you whether a fence was there or not when its going to be covered up?" as "Does it really matter to you whether a fence that was there or not is going to be covered up?"

My bad.

 

[JohnD]

I agree. All signs point to it being hidden. I was just referring to your words of... and I just realized that I misread "Does it really matter to you whether a fence was there or not when its going to be covered up?" as "Does it really matter to you whether a fence that was there or not is going to be covered up?"

My bad.

I'm going to revise my statement. It has been stated the fence is "new". We don't know that. Looking at those photos, there is plenty of briar theming that could very well have covered a fence. So I'm comfortable saying there might have been one there. But I won't blatantly assert one was never there where theming in the very location would cover up any evidence of one being there or not.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Speaking of assertions, how do you know this fence is "new"? When you look at the photo below, all I see is a bunch of briars. For all we know, that fence was underneath. So don't sit there all smug saying I'm making assertions when you don't have a clue either. At least I can make a reasonable assumption it was underneath the briars the entire time and not declare it wasn't there at all when you have no way of knowing.

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No, for all you know the fence was underneath - but I'm familiar with how the Briars were constructed, and there was no fence under them because there was no under them. The Briars were a mass of individual tubes twisting out from the concrete floor below the waterline. You could see through them. A fence would be visible through them if it were hidden amongst the Briars, which it wasn't.

Here's a clip where you can see right through the Briars from multiple angles - no fence visible anywhere through:



Here's a gif of a TBA construction shot laid over a shot of the Briar Patch - look through, no fence:

Here are 2 TBA construction photos from February last year after they started removing the Briars - there's some scaffolding, but no fence:

It's fine not to know about this, but there's no need to discount the fact that other people do. I'm not being smug, I'm just telling you the truth. You're the one saying that since you don't know it must simply be unknowable.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

This official B-roll video from the early 90s shows what sort of motion the figures are supposed to be capable of when properly maintained. Go to about a minute in if the timestamp didn't work-



They're far far more advanced and impressive than any of Jungle Cruise's figures.

I can feel the air conditioning from this video!

 

[SilentWindODoom]

I can feel the air conditioning from this video!

Smell that water.

 

[Sectorkeeper71]

Smell that water.

Embrace the jolt from the log as we reach the unload bottleneck

 

[SilentWindODoom]

Embrace the jolt from the log as we reach the unload bottleneck

In the earlier discussions of the possibility of speeding logs through, it was mentioned that such buildup was something happening *if* things go wrong. But in the last number of the trips to the resort I've taken, such a buildup has happened on every water ride I've been on, seemingly waiting for 50-100% of the ride's length in a line of boats, including stopping at the start of the Small World finale. I didn't remember it ever being like that before.

Is it a new(-ish) normal, something I just didn't remember as a child, or I just have bad luck?

 

[Drew the Disney Dude]

Nearly full operations tonight, all the logs are testing at once as if it was open. I'll be there tomorrow to get photos/videos.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

In the earlier discussions of the possibility of speeding logs through, it was mentioned that such buildup was something happening *if* things go wrong. But in the last number of the trips to the resort I've taken, such a buildup has happened on every water ride I've been on, seemingly waiting for 50-100% of the ride's length in a line of boats, including stopping at the start of the Small World finale. I didn't remember it ever being like that before.

Is it a new(-ish) normal, something I just didn't remember as a child, or I just have bad luck?

I believe this is due to the influx of transfers from ECVs and Wheelchairs…

 

[Disney Analyst]

 

[JohnD]

No, for all you know the fence was underneath - but I'm familiar with how the Briars were constructed, and there was no fence under them because there was no under them. The Briars were a mass of individual tubes twisting out from the concrete floor below the waterline. You could see through them. A fence would be visible through them if it were hidden amongst the Briars, which it wasn't.

Here's a clip where you can see right through the Briars from multiple angles - no fence visible anywhere through:



Here's a gif of a TBA construction shot laid over a shot of the Briar Patch - look through, no fence:

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Here are 2 TBA construction photos from February last year after they started removing the Briars - there's some scaffolding, but no fence:

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It's fine not to know about this, but there's no need to discount the fact that other people do. I'm not being smug, I'm just telling you the truth. You're the one saying that since you don't know it must simply be unknowable.

Let's both get off the fence and move on.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

Wouldn't it be easier and make more sense to do it while they out of the flume and dry?

Maybe they’re being tested for leaks BEFORE going into their final paint jobs??

 

[Smiley/OCD]

Two additional questions…has anyone seen if the water cannons have been turned back on or are permanently shut off??

Does anyone think the water “pouring” off the right side after the big drop at the bottleneck has been adressed??

 

[Purduevian]

In the earlier discussions of the possibility of speeding logs through, it was mentioned that such buildup was something happening *if* things go wrong. But in the last number of the trips to the resort I've taken, such a buildup has happened on every water ride I've been on, seemingly waiting for 50-100% of the ride's length in a line of boats, including stopping at the start of the Small World finale. I didn't remember it ever being like that before.

Is it a new(-ish) normal, something I just didn't remember as a child, or I just have bad luck?

From on operations standpoint, ideally you have at least enough logs/boats to ensure that there is always another one ready to enter load assuming a perfect dispatch every single time.

Using an imaginary version of Splash/Tiana's as in example, the ride loads 3 logs at a time and has a ride time of 12 minutes. Another assumption is under idea circumstances it takes 1 minute from the 3 logs entering the load/unload to leave the area. Finally lets assume they stagger the 3 log releases every 20 seconds to spread out the course
So after 12 minutes we need all 3 original logs back ready to meet the load/unload station

Time of where Log 1 is	Where is log 3 into the ride?	How many logs have left unload ideally
0	0 mins	3
1 min	40 seconds	6
2 mins	1 min, 40 seconds	9
Break
12 mins and 40 seconds	12 minutes (Ready to enter load	42

Now as boats 43,44,45 leave the station in 20 seconds boats 1,2,and 3 are ready to take their place. (Boat 4 will bump right into 3 as it's taken into the unload station in 20 seconds)

However, if the ride misses even 1 of the ideal 60 second dispatch times, boats 43,44,45 are waiting to enter the loading area still, so 1-3 will bump in behind them. If it misses more and more, the back up gets bigger and bigger

So ideally this ride have 45 logs on it, but to be safe, however, most people would probably add at least 6 more incase a calculation or 2 is off.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Do some of us seriously believe Universal’s latest announcement left Disney thinking, “GAWRSH! Better open something 3 months early, ah-hyuck!”?

They knew EU was opening next year. Everyone knows this. D’Amaro specifically rides Fear Fall to inspect the park’s progress. He thinks the Helios looks like Riviera.

The only reason this was accelerated was because MK desperately needs capacity and it was possible to condense the timeline. The only reason for delaying to late 2024 was for something to market then. They’ll market it this summer into fall instead.

 

[Drdcm]

maybe in the laughing place? except that's where it was rumored to be screen heavy

That is probably the only area in the ride where I think projections could work well. That and the big lift hill. Would be a good way to do special effects and magical ambiance stuff