News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

Disney Analyst

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When someone says “dozens”, they don’t mean 2 dozen, typically. In the colloquial sense, it tends to mean “a lot but not 100”. I don’t think I’ve ever heard the term used for less than 3 dozen, in any event. You’d usually say “a couple dozen” or even “a few dozen” for less.

I’ve heard well north of 36 figures, at least. Not all A100s, of course.

I agree that dozens does likely mean at least 36+ new aa’s.

and has it been confirmed they trashed all old? We could still get some reskinned figures from the old version?
 

Brer Panther

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It looks fine as a whole, but I'm gonna have to agree with those who think it looks off-model... and a lot more like Tiana's mom than Tiana.

Are the eyes screens? I can't tell.
Yep, it definitely looks better than Ariel (the machinery in her mouth really freaks me out). I also agree with @MerlinTheGoat that it looks better than Wreck-It Ralph 2 Tiana.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's like the Little Mermaid and Frozen rides where Louis and the other non-human animatronics look great but the human animatronics all look off.
Wondering how many if any of the critters from splash will be repurposed in this. Thinking of the fishing birds and some of the guys in the finale specifically
Rumor has it that all of the original animatronics got scrapped. Take it with a grain of salt (get it? 'Cause the retheme takes place in a salt mine? Nyuck nyuck nyuck), but I'd be shocked if any of the critters were repurposed.
Made a GIF comparing the two

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It looks like Disney just gave up on maintaining Splash Mountain and let it go to pot.
 
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I was about to say, “even the biggest cynic would approve of that AA” but then you arrived and proved me wrong.
To be fair, it doesn't exactly look like its namesake, Princess and the Frog version of Tiana. She also looks older. This is grown businesswoman and wearer of many hats, Tiana. To that end, I guess the Disney+ series would help explain her appearance. She doesn't quite look like Tiana, but you can still tell it's Tiana. The same way that Spiderman on Hollywood Boulevard is still Spiderman.

If AA Belle is the Gold standard than fashionista explorer Tiana is a "sterling" Silver.

UPDATE: The "spark of life". That's what's missing. The eye glimmer needed to show that she's not a dead-eyed great white shark but a human being. Exaggerated here for reference.

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TheEPCOTHistorian

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I mentioned this on Twitter today with @Drew the Disney Dude and it might shed some light on why Tiana looks older as an Animatronic.

The Princess and the Frog takes place in November of 1912. In the beginning of the film, there’s a gentleman reading a newspaper with the headline ‘Wilson Elected!’, effectively conveying the setting.

Tiana’s Bayou Adventure takes place in 1927, as stated by Josh D’amaro and WDI.

In the film, Tiana is 19 years old. That means during the time of Tiana’s Bayou Adventure, she’s 34. The Average life expectancy of women in the 1920s was 54 years, meaning she is 63% of the way through her life during the attraction.

She’s just old (for the time period).
 

ChesireCat11

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I mentioned this on Twitter today with @Drew the Disney Dude and it might shed some light on why Tiana looks older as an Animatronic.

The Princess and the Frog takes place in November of 1912. In the beginning of the film, there’s a gentleman reading a newspaper with the headline ‘Wilson Elected!’, effectively conveying the setting.

Tiana’s Bayou Adventure takes place in 1927, as stated by Josh D’amaro and WDI.

In the film, Tiana is 19 years old. That means during the time of Tiana’s Bayou Adventure, she’s 34. The Average life expectancy of women in the 1920s was 54 years, meaning she is 63% of the way through her life during the attraction.

She’s just old (for the time period).
I'm pretty sure that newspaper was in the prologue, when Tiana was a kid. Then the actual story takes place in 1927 when Tiana is older.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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To be fair, it doesn't exactly look like its namesake, Princess and the Frog version of Tiana. She also looks older. This is grown businesswoman and wearer of many hats, Tiana. To that end, I guess the Disney+ series would help explain her appearance. She doesn't quite look like Tiana, but you can still tell it's Tiana. The same way that Spiderman on Hollywood Boulevard is still Spiderman.

If AA Belle is the Gold standard than fashionista explorer Tiana is a "sterling" Silver.
In fairness, I'm not quite sure why the Belle animatronic gets so much love - she's further off-model than Tiana:

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I did a quick Photoshop using liquify to make her look more like her animated counterpart - it's not perfect, but flip between these two images and see how weird the above image looks compared to the edit below:

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SplashJacket

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In fairness, I'm not quite sure why the Belle animatronic gets so much love - she's further off-model than Tiana:

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I did a quick Photoshop using liquify to make her look more like her animated counterpart - it's not perfect, but flip between these two images and see how weird the Above image looks compared to the edit below:

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I think part of the issue is Belle is dressed in a recognizable outfit and hairstyle whereas Tiana has neither.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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I'm pretty sure that newspaper was in the prologue, when Tiana was a kid. Then the actual story takes place in 1927 when Tiana is older.
The prologue is set pretty firmly in 1912, but the main events are set in "The 1920's". If the ride takes place in 1927 then presumably the events of the film are at least a couple of years before, considering how much has happened since we last saw her.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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To be fair, it doesn't exactly look like its namesake, Princess and the Frog version of Tiana. She also looks older. This is grown businesswoman and wearer of many hats, Tiana. To that end, I guess the Disney+ series would help explain her appearance. She doesn't quite look like Tiana, but you can still tell it's Tiana. The same way that Spiderman on Hollywood Boulevard is still Spiderman.

If AA Belle is the Gold standard than fashionista explorer Tiana is a "sterling" Silver.

UPDATE: The "spark of life". That's what's missing. The eye glimmer needed to show that she's not a dead-eyed great white shark but a human being. Exaggerated here for reference.

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Something else worth noting - her Eyelashes had not been attached yet by the time this photo was taken. Between that and the standard figure finishing that is done once the character is installed in the ride and under fully controlled show lighting, it's very possible she'll come to full life once guests are riding.
 

UNCgolf

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In fairness, I'm not quite sure why the Belle animatronic gets so much love - she's further off-model than Tiana:

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I did a quick Photoshop using liquify to make her look more like her animated counterpart - it's not perfect, but flip between these two images and see how weird the above image looks compared to the edit below:

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Yeah, both AAs have faces that are larger/rounder than their animated counterparts. I wonder if that's simply a necessity for the AA mechanics.

I don't think Belle is further off-model than Tiana, although the familiar costume and hairstyle probably helps.
 
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Bocabear

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running a salt mine and Foods factory business can age a person...But yeah, the animatronic is nice but it could be just about anyone...It could be Tiana's half sister....or that nice lady that lives down the road... It just doesn't look like her.... It is a shame they have dragged her so far off-story...
Though, would we recognize a 25 year old Alice if she was not in Wonderland and was now a Bank Teller at the Fidelity Fiduciary Bank? and 40 year old Librarian Belle ?
 

UNCgolf

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In the film, Tiana is 19 years old. That means during the time of Tiana’s Bayou Adventure, she’s 34. The Average life expectancy of women in the 1920s was 54 years, meaning she is 63% of the way through her life during the attraction.

She’s just old (for the time period).

Her life expectancy would have been higher than 54 years at the age of 19 (putting aside any other timeline issues discussed above).

For most of human history, average life expectancy was dragged down significantly by high levels of infant mortality -- people's life expectancy tended to increase significantly if they survived past the first few years of their life. It still wasn't as high as it is today, but the average life expectancy as an adult was much higher than the average life expectancy at birth throughout essentially all of history.
 

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Something else worth noting - her Eyelashes had not been attached yet by the time this photo was taken. Between that and the standard figure finishing that is done once the character is installed in the ride and under fully controlled show lighting, it's very possible she'll come to full life once guests are riding.
I think I might have said something to that effect in an earlier post.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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When someone says “dozens”, they don’t mean 2 dozen, typically. In the colloquial sense, it tends to mean “a lot but not 100”. I don’t think I’ve ever heard the term used for less than 3 dozen, in any event. You’d usually say “a couple dozen” or even “a few dozen” for less.

I’ve heard well north of 36 figures, at least. Not all A100s, of course.
I was never given a precise number, the most specific was a very recent update from my source claiming Tiana would have "easily as many animatronics as Splash". They claim to have personally seen new finalized mockups of all of the scenes. This includes the finale, which I specifically asked them about due to claims that it would be very sparse. They assured me this was completely false and that the finale (and the other scenes) was at least as well populated as Splash. But we'll see.

Cupofchai stated a long time ago that it would be "over four dozen" new animatronics, and they were the one who broke the news about the riverboat being dismantled and replaced with a Tiana's Palace facade.
 

Alanzo

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Her life expectancy would have been higher than 54 years at the age of 19 (putting aside any other timeline issues discussed above).

For most of human history, average life expectancy was dragged down significantly by high levels of infant mortality -- people's life expectancy tended to increase significantly if they survived past the first few years of their life. It still wasn't as high as it is today, but the average life expectancy as an adult was much higher than the average life expectancy at birth throughout essentially all of history.

You beat me to it. Thanks for not letting that miscarriage of statistics stand.
 

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