I think the actual reason why Facilier isn't in the ride is because they want to have it take place after the movie so people won't complain about the black princess being a frog for most of the ride. And that means no Facilier.Yup Its because her magic is viewed as good while his is viewed as evil. Evil/ voodoo being associated with a black character for a ride that’s replacing “problematic” Splash Mountain is a No Go…. in their eyes. So they continue to sanitize and dumb down everything for the DEI department.
I will say even if it's not the most thematically appropriate it's very pretty
As long as you saw it in the first few days. The in-ground lights at Epcot are already broken, as is the plumbing at Moana’s water walk-through.When you plan to retheme an area, you don't theme the new ride to the old area. You build the ride, then work on everything around it. It'll all fit soon.
Also, I'm looking forward to Tiana's at night. After seeing how World Celebration looks at night, if they've got all the foliage glowing like in the concept art, it's going to be a beautiful area.
Nope those pipes are jarringView attachment 759543From big thunder queue.
All those pipes.......I will say even if it's not the most thematically appropriate it's very pretty
The previous version of the ride was literally about a cartoon bunny.Fans: It’s still gonna have thrills, don’t make it look like a kiddie ride.
Disney: Hold my flowers.
The Princess and the Frog had just as many scary moments and thrills as the animated sequences of Song of the South.It’s still all kind of funny to me. You have this princess fairytale IP and this cutesy green flowery mountain where you go 50 feet down a thrilling drop. I’ll just state the obvious and say a purpose built PatF ride would never end up this way.
Please don’t buy into and parrot this nonsense.We just can’t have a Black villain?
Hopefully, they recast Kang the Conqueror with a white man if that’s the case.
The previous version of the ride was literally about a cartoon bunny.
The thrill elements of this attraction have always stood in some contrast with the show elements.
The Princess and the Frog had just as many scary moments and thrills as the animated sequences of Song of the South.
It was in direct response to your claim that the IP doesn’t lend itself to a thrill ride.And what does that have to do with anything?
The author of many of the Disney blog posts and the woman featured in the recent video clip for this attraction is Carmen Smith. She says she is the lead creative executive on Tiana. Her title is Senior Vice President and Executive Creative Development Product/Content and Inclusive Strategies for Disney Parks, Experiences, and Products.I don't even mind complaining/defending the ride.
It's the conspiratorial nonsense and the bad faith summaries of what "they" (Disney, WDI, DEI Team, minorities, immigrants, political opponents, etc.) think, want, and are trying to accomplish that seep into every discussion.
It's great that we don't all see eye to eye on everything. We can disagree agreeably!
But when every thread devolves into one of those awkward, off-the-rails conversations with your grumpy uncle and super political sister-in-law, it makes you wonder if it's worth the trouble to participate at all.
It was in direct response to your claim that the IP doesn’t lend itself to a thrill ride.
It did indeed, but unfortunately they won't be present in the ride. I actually do think there was a way to make a Tiana ride into a thrilling one story wise. And I believe it was a mistake not to. But the point is that they didn't do that for whatever reason. The big drop seems like it lacks any purpose in the concept they went with. Which is a concern Tony Baxter brought up in that recent interview.The Princess and the Frog had just as many scary moments and thrills as the animated sequences of Song of the South.
The previous version of the ride had a very intimidating final lift sequence in terms of tone. The briar patch itself also made the drop even more intimidating. And on some level, even the silliness of Brer Fox following Brer Rabbit throughout the ride attempting to capture and eat him is both funny but also morbid. It serves as a buildup to that final lift and drop sequence. The ride was not all sunshine and roses, a tension existed in the back of your mind even during the scenes that were literal sunshine and roses.The previous version of the ride was literally about a cartoon bunny.
The thrill elements of this attraction have always stood in some contrast with the show elements.
If your issue is with how they’ve interpreted the IP rather than with the IP itself, you could have made that clear. I was simply responding to your post as you wrote it.Sorry did I miss the Princess crown and flowers outside of Splash Mountain?
I'm sure you can imagine what it will look like once those are gone right??Nope those pipes are jarring
All those pipes.......
If your issue is with how they’ve interpreted the IP rather than with the IP itself, you could have made that clear. I was simply responding to your post as you wrote it.
Which is a different point from the one I was responding to.It did indeed, but unfortunately they won't be present in the ride. I actually do think there was a way to make a Tiana ride into a thrilling one story wise. And I believe it was a mistake not to. But the point is that they didn't do that for whatever reason. The big drop seems like it lacks any purpose in the concept they went with. Which is a concern Tony Baxter brought up in that recent interview.
So what you're saying is that sunshine and roses don't automatically preclude the riders feeling tense in anticipation of the thrilling 50 foot drop they know is coming?The previous version of the ride had a very intimidating final lift sequence in terms of tone. The briar patch itself also made the drop even more intimidating. And on some level, even the silliness of Brer Fox following Brer Rabbit throughout the ride attempting to capture and eat him is both funny but also morbid. It serves as a buildup to that final lift and drop sequence. The ride was not all sunshine and roses, a tension existed in the back of your mind even during the scenes that were literal sunshine and roses.
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