News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

MerlinTheGoat

MerlinTheGoat

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MisterPenguin said:
So, the use of colors and abstractions isn't exactly anachronistic. Here is a painting done in France in 1906.

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However, I don't think they're going for "this could have been painted in the 1920s." It is very similar to the type of modern artwork for NOLA, Jazz, and Black history. See here:

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So, isn't that anachronistic to Frontierland or the 1920s?

Not if this area of Frontierland becomes New Orleans Square similar to Disneyland.

A modern mural in the style of NOLA murals depicting the Jazz greats of the the past (Luis the crocodilian) does 'fit.'
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Difference for me is these actually look good and of high quality by competent artists (regardless of when they were made), while the ones for Tiana are poor and crappy looking imitations. Especially the character designs. Scenery is a bit better than the characters at least, but still a far cry from the detail in the examples you posted.
 
Brer Oswald

Brer Oswald

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networkpro said:
Time to trot out strawman. If thematically the style and color palette are discordant with both the source material and its surrounding area, it's going to be called out as bad show.

There's no mention of historical Georgia, so why is it obliquely included?
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Yeah that’s the thing. Georgia was never ever EVER mentioned anywhere in the previous ride. The only places mentioned were the mountain itself and the briar patch. This allowed them to place it anywhere in the 1800s America land that is (was?) Frontierland. Changed the colour of rock to match Big Thunder and changed the music style to fit with the land. Boom. Nobody ever questioned it before now.

They could have done the same with Tiana if they wanted to. Her new cartoon supposedly has her travelling around the world (or at least the country). But they stubbornly wanted to set this in “1920s New Orleans” so that they could have the cuisine tie ins. And with this new “mural”, it feels like it can’t even stick to that timeframe.

It feels like they are trying to throw everything and the kitchen sink at this attraction in terms of the inspiration, aesthetic, and backstory.
 
Sir_Cliff

Sir_Cliff

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Looking at the artist's other work, I think this is just her style rather than anything particularly designed to fit the time period of the ride.

The artist seems very accomplished, but I do suspect this is a case of the WDI team being more enamoured of being able to collaborate with her than thinking about what works best for the area. Again, though, a lot will depend on how the surroundings turn out.
 
Brer Oswald

Brer Oswald

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Sir_Cliff said:
Looking at the artist's other work, I think this is just her style rather than anything particularly designed to fit the time period of the ride.

The artist seems very accomplished, but I do suspect this is a case of the WDI team being more enamoured of being able to collaborate with her than thinking about what works best for the area. Again, though, a lot will depend on how the surroundings turn out.
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I think this is more than likely the case. Their idea of authenticity with this attraction seems to be collaborating with as many NOLA based artists as possible, which is nice. But that’s only half the battle. The lack of consistency is probably why this project feels so cobbled together and unnatural.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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but this attraction and this area of the park is not set in 2023 New Orleans...it is set in 1927 New Orleans or thereabouts. This style of art is completely anachronistic... New Orleans artist or not. It doesn't feel right for the ride ride or the storyline.
but whatever, it is New Orleans....so anything from New Orleans no matter what time period fits I guess....
 
Smiley/OCD

Smiley/OCD

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Bocabear said:
but this attraction and this area of the park is not set in 2023 New Orleans...it is set in 1927 New Orleans or thereabouts. This style of art is completely anachronistic... New Orleans artist or not. It doesn't feel right for the ride ride or the storyline.
but whatever, it is New Orleans....so anything from New Orleans no matter what time period fits I guess....
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In that case, I’m looking forward to the Archie Manning mural…
 
Brer Panther

Brer Panther

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Here's a question - will this attraction have anything to do with The Princess and the Frog at all aside from a few of the characters?

Apparently it won't have any of the movie's songs and will focus on a bunch of stuff that wasn't even mentioned in the movie... so, really, could you just swap out Tiana, Naveen, Louis etc. for brand-new characters and it wouldn't make a difference?
 
Disgruntled Walt

Disgruntled Walt

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No
Brer Panther said:
could you just swap out Tiana, Naveen, Louis etc. for brand-new characters and it wouldn't make a difference?
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In a way, they kind of already have. Did anyone think there was a chance that Tiana would go into the food supply business at the end of the film? I kind of thought her dreams had come true by opening her restaurant.

Plus, doesn't Tiana have responsibilities as the co-head of state for Meldonia? I don't think they've mentioned her new country once during the development of this attraction! What are her approval ratings across the pond if she's spending more time shipping beignets around Louisiana?
 
MerlinTheGoat

MerlinTheGoat

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Brer Panther said:
Here's a question - will this attraction have anything to do with The Princess and the Frog at all aside from a few of the characters?

Apparently it won't have any of the movie's songs and will focus on a bunch of stuff that wasn't even mentioned in the movie... so, really, could you just swap out Tiana, Naveen, Louis etc. for brand-new characters and it wouldn't make a difference?
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Some of the film music will be in it. Not Friends on the Other Side though I assume.
 
Disgruntled Walt

Disgruntled Walt

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No
There's always someone in these pictures who looks like they're secretly not on board or really annoyed:

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[His thoughts: "What ever happened to thematic integrity??"]
 
Incomudro

Incomudro

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Brer Panther said:
Here's a question - will this attraction have anything to do with The Princess and the Frog at all aside from a few of the characters?

Apparently it won't have any of the movie's songs and will focus on a bunch of stuff that wasn't even mentioned in the movie... so, really, could you just swap out Tiana, Naveen, Louis etc. for brand-new characters and it wouldn't make a difference?
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There's a phrase used in cooking "Start with good ingredients, and don't mess them up.
Basically meaning there's no need to overwork, and over tamper if you start with the good stuff.
Just let the ingredients shine.
Princess and the Frog had all the right ingredients.
There was no need to get heavy handed with them.
I see too many cooks spoiling this brew.
 
MerlinTheGoat

MerlinTheGoat

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Sir_Cliff said:
Looking at the artist's other work, I think this is just her style rather than anything particularly designed to fit the time period of the ride.

The artist seems very accomplished, but I do suspect this is a case of the WDI team being more enamoured of being able to collaborate with her than thinking about what works best for the area. Again, though, a lot will depend on how the surroundings turn out.
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Looking at her other work, I get the strong impression there's an issue of her style just not really fitting with what they're asking her to paint. There's a weird mishmash of styles in that mural of Louis for instance. The background and even Louis' lower body are relatively consistent at least. But what throws it all off is Louis' head. It's drawn more cartoonish, with smaller sharper outlines compared to the surroundings (even against most of the body) and the classic animated wide white eyes and black dots. It doesn't really fit the rest of the painting and you can tell by looking at the artist's other work that it's not how she normally draws eyes. It honestly looks like they cropped the head out of another completely different piece of art from someone else and shopped it in.

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I also noticed this clash of styles within the pieces they commissioned from Sharika Mahdi. Her original art, the pieces that don't contain PATF characters, are generally of higher quality and maintain a far greater consistency than what they asked her to paint for the ride. The most awkward looking pieces she created for the ride IMO were the ones showing the characters from the movie. Whereas the best piece (again IMO) was the band of unique musical frogs that weren't taken from the film. That one seemed like it played to her strengths and unique style much more than the others.
 
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